WI WI - Kelly Dwyer, 27, Milwaukee, 11 Oct 2013 - #1

[Woe.be.gone]

Putting myself in this person's shoes I can see that she may be reluctant to come forward. She may be hurt and embarrassed by the news that her boyfriend may be have been involved with another woman and may not want to have the spotlight on her.

Yes, I understand your point. My point is that if Kelly thought KZ was her boyfriend but KZ didn't think Kelly was his girlfriend, the same may be true with the other woman.
If people want us to believe KZ has/had another girlfriend (he may have several for all I know), we can't simply take someone's word for it over the Internet. Right?

I'm really not interested in meeting her per se, I'm trying to express that their relationship may not be what it appears to be, from KZ's perspective, either.

I'm taking issue with people who seem to believe carte blanche whatever KZ told the police.

 

[bwt42]

Yes, I understand your point. My point is that if Kelly thought KZ was her boyfriend but KZ didn't think Kelly was his girlfriend, the same may be true with the other woman.
If people want us to believe KZ has/had another girlfriend (he may have several for all I know), we can't simply take someone's word for it over the Internet. Right?

I'm really not interested in meeting her per se, I'm trying to express that their relationship may not be what it appears to be, from KZ's perspective, either.

I'm taking issue with people who seem to believe carte blanche whatever KZ told the police.

If we question if KZ considered KD his girlfriend or not, we can question if KD really considered KZ her boyfriend. Maybe she told her mother he was her boyfriend because she couldn't otherwise explain her frequent visits & overnight stays. I rely quite a bit on mke2013 who knew both of them and said KZ had a girlfriend and it wasn't KD. Mke2013 is a verified insider.

 

[bwt42]

Woe--I agree with your definition of time lapse video. If she left the building and passed a surveillance camera and it was working, she would be seen.

 

[SamanthaL]

Living in WI I have been following this thread and case on and off. I was just reading something and realized she graduated from the same high school as me and she must have only been a year or two behind. How I missed that fact until now, I don't know. I was wondering why lots of my FB friends were sharing her page when she was a WI missing person. Now it makes sense. I hope there are some answers soon in he disappearance. We live in Western WI now but our family is all in Kenosha or back where I came from in the Chicago Suburbs so this had been hitting close to home since the beginning. Even more so now.

 

[mke2013]

If we question if KZ considered KD his girlfriend or not, we can question if KD really considered KZ her boyfriend. Maybe she told her mother he was her boyfriend because she couldn't otherwise explain her frequent visits & overnight stays. I rely quite a bit on mke2013 who knew both of them and said KZ had a girlfriend and it wasn't KD. Mke2013 is a verified insider.

I just wanted to clarify that I didn't know Kelly personally so I am not a good source for info other than what I found out about her from public social networking sites, etc. Sorry if there was confusion regarding that.

 

[Snoods]

If a time lapse surveillance camera captured her walking into the building, it would capture her walking out. They just take fewer pics per second than a regular camera. She would have been on the camera.

 

[Snoods]

Living in WI I have been following this thread and case on and off. I was just reading something and realized she graduated from the same high school as me and she must have only been a year or two behind. How I missed that fact until now, I don't know. I was wondering why lots of my FB friends were sharing her page when she was a WI missing person. Now it makes sense. I hope there are some answers soon in he disappearance. We live in Western WI now but our family is all in Kenosha or back where I came from in the Chicago Suburbs so this had been hitting close to home since the beginning. Even more so now.

:welcome5: I hope we find some answers soon in her disappearance as well, Samantha. We appreciate your input!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

If we question if KZ considered KD his girlfriend or not, we can question if KD really considered KZ her boyfriend. Maybe she told her mother he was her boyfriend because she couldn't otherwise explain her frequent visits & overnight stays. I rely quite a bit on mke2013 who knew both of them and said KZ had a girlfriend and it wasn't KD. Mke2013 is a verified insider.

Huh? Kelly is the one who is missing not KZ. He is alive and can still speak, tell his story the way he wants to tell it (to benefit himself if possible).
If you recall, mke2013, even posted that KZ has a propensity toward telling mistruths even meaningless ones.

Kelly was 27 yo when she went missing. Why would she have to explain her overnights to her mother? Besides, everyone has cell phones these days so when they answer the phone, their mother doesn't know where they are anyway. I think the odds are more in favor of KZ misrepresenting himself than the idea that Kelly would (about her love life) to her mother. Would she withhold certain info from her mother? Yes.
But, I bet, what she chose to tell her mom was more than likely the way she perceived the truth to be.
Honestly, I don't understand whatever is going on here regarding trying to somehow make Kelly out to be equivalent to KZ in the area of wrongdoing.

Another thing to consider is that, although 27 is considered a grown woman, anybody over age 35 can tell you there's a big, or should be imo, difference between age 27 and almost 40 years old. Other than my basic personality and spirit staying relatively the same, my habits, choices and life focus became more and more stable and self respectable as I progressed beyond Kelly's age.

Keep in mind, KZ is a full decade plus older than Kelly. He should know better by now. There's no way in hell, when almost forty, I would have fed or sent a much younger person out to buy drugs!!! Anyway, I was long ago finished with partaking in anything like that by then anyhow.

I'm looking at the whole scenario as a whole. Too many strikes so far against KZ even if he's not the person who is responsible for Kelly's disappearance.
I understand the innocent until proven guilty angle but trying to make the guy sound good on paper is puzzling imo.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Huh? Kelly is the one who is missing not KZ. He is alive and can still speak, tell his story the way he wants to tell it (to benefit himself if possible).
If you recall, mke2013, even posted that KZ has a propensity toward telling mistruths even meaningless ones.

Kelly was 27 yo when she went missing. Why would she have to explain her overnights to her mother? Besides, everyone has cell phones these days so when they answer the phone, their mother doesn't know where they are anyway. I think the odds are more in favor of KZ misrepresenting himself than the idea that Kelly would (about her love life) to her mother. Would she withhold certain info from her mother? Yes.
But, I bet, what she chose to tell her mom was more than likely the way she perceived the truth to be.
Honestly, I don't understand whatever is going on here regarding trying to somehow make Kelly out to be equivalent to KZ in the area of wrongdoing.

Another thing to consider is that, although 27 is considered a grown woman, anybody over age 35 can tell you there's a big, or should be imo, difference between age 27 and almost 40 years old. Other than my basic personality and spirit staying relatively the same, my habits, choices and life focus became more and more stable and self respectable as I progressed beyond Kelly's age.

Keep in mind, KZ is a full decade plus older than Kelly. He should know better by now. There's no way in hell, when almost forty, I would have fed or sent a much younger person out to buy drugs!!! Anyway, I was long ago finished with partaking in anything like that by then anyhow.

I'm looking at the whole scenario as a whole. Too many strikes so far against KZ even if he's not the person who is responsible for Kelly's disappearance.
I understand the innocent until proven guilty angle but trying to make the guy sound good on paper is puzzling imo.

Great post, Woe! :thumb:

 

[bwt42]

Huh? Kelly is the one who is missing not KZ. He is alive and can still speak, tell his story the way he wants to tell it (to benefit himself if possible).
If you recall, mke2013, even posted that KZ has a propensity toward telling mistruths even meaningless ones.

Kelly was 27 yo when she went missing. Why would she have to explain her overnights to her mother? Besides, everyone has cell phones these days so when they answer the phone, their mother doesn't know where they are anyway. I think the odds are more in favor of KZ misrepresenting himself than the idea that Kelly would (about her love life) to her mother. Would she withhold certain info from her mother? Yes.
But, I bet, what she chose to tell her mom was more than likely the way she perceived the truth to be.
Honestly, I don't understand whatever is going on here regarding trying to somehow make Kelly out to be equivalent to KZ in the area of wrongdoing.

Another thing to consider is that, although 27 is considered a grown woman, anybody over age 35 can tell you there's a big, or should be imo, difference between age 27 and almost 40 years old. Other than my basic personality and spirit staying relatively the same, my habits, choices and life focus became more and more stable and self respectable as I progressed beyond Kelly's age.

Keep in mind, KZ is a full decade plus older than Kelly. He should know better by now. There's no way in hell, when almost forty, I would have fed or sent a much younger person out to buy drugs!!! Anyway, I was long ago finished with partaking in anything like that by then anyhow.

I'm looking at the whole scenario as a whole. Too many strikes so far against KZ even if he's not the person who is responsible for Kelly's disappearance.
I understand the innocent until proven guilty angle but trying to make the guy sound good on paper is puzzling imo.

Shocked to hear that my suggestion that KD might have lied to her mother about her relationship with KZ is trying to make KD equal to KZ in wrongdoing.

 

[Blessed2Bme]

New Article posted 11/16/13:


http://communities.washingtontimes....6/missing-person-alert-help-find-kelly-dwyer/


MILWAUKEE, November 16, 2013 — In early October, 27-year-old Kelly Dwyer told her father that she loved him. On October 11, Kelly Dwyer went missing.

A month later, Kelly is still missing. Efforts to locate her continue, while her family and friends worry and her parents’ nightmare increases daily.
As the search continues, this young woman from Chicago who was last seen in Milwaukee risks becoming a statistic. Those statistics are frightening......
___________

^^
The first sentence in this story just adds to your theory Woe.be.gone that Kelly did love KZ. It fits to a "T" so to say. And KZ was definitely living a double life with his women. Where are you Kelly??

 

[Justiceforever]

New Article posted 11/16/13:


http://communities.washingtontimes....6/missing-person-alert-help-find-kelly-dwyer/


MILWAUKEE, November 16, 2013 — In early October, 27-year-old Kelly Dwyer told her father that she loved him. On October 11, Kelly Dwyer went missing.

A month later, Kelly is still missing. Efforts to locate her continue, while her family and friends worry and her parents’ nightmare increases daily.
As the search continues, this young woman from Chicago who was last seen in Milwaukee risks becoming a statistic. Those statistics are frightening......
___________

^^
The first sentence in this story just adds to your theory Woe.be.gone that Kelly did love KZ. It fits to a "T" so to say. And KZ was definitely living a double life with his women. Where are you Kelly??

I read that to mean that she loved him (her father) Did I read that wrong?

 

[Blessed2Bme]

I read that to mean that she loved him (her father) Did I read that wrong?

Thanks Justice for pointing that out. Not my intention to twist Kelly's father's words. Sorry Sleuthers!! How could I misinterpret that.:banghead:

 

[SmoothOperator]

Thanks Justice for pointing that out. Not my intention to twist Kelly's father words. Sorry Sleuthers!! How could I misinterpret that.:banghead:

No worries, blessed, for some reason I, too initially read it as Kelly having told her dad that she loved KZ..but I, too agree with Justice that the meaning was actually of Kelly having told her father that she loved him(her dad)..

**Please forgive the limitations that come w/my posting via mobile ATM**

 

[Woe.be.gone]

New Article posted 11/16/13:


http://communities.washingtontimes....6/missing-person-alert-help-find-kelly-dwyer/


MILWAUKEE, November 16, 2013 — In early October, 27-year-old Kelly Dwyer told her father that she loved him. On October 11, Kelly Dwyer went missing.

A month later, Kelly is still missing. Efforts to locate her continue, while her family and friends worry and her parents’ nightmare increases daily.
As the search continues, this young woman from Chicago who was last seen in Milwaukee risks becoming a statistic. Those statistics are frightening......
___________

^^
The first sentence in this story just adds to your theory Woe.be.gone that Kelly did love KZ. It fits to a "T" so to say. And KZ was definitely living a double life with his women. Where are you Kelly??

I chuckled when I read, "For those who want to pray in person, there are plenty of churches in the Milwaukee area".

Also, "For those doing internet searches, disregard any information connected to a columnist who writes about basketball. That is a different Kelly Dwyer who is a male, safe, and sound."

Best, "Where there is love, there is always hope."

Thanks Blessed. The author probably was quoting Kelly's father who said Kelly told him that she loves him not long before she disappeared. Now, her dad is clinging to her words and realizing he never thought it would be the last time he heard her speak those words. Having to live through something like this is horrible and whoever is torturing Kelly's parents by not revealing where they put Kelly is a monster. Of course, typing that is a waste of time because the person who would do this doesn't care about the pain they're causing other people.

Regarding the first sentence in the article, our minds hear what we're thinking about when a sentence isn't clearly written. I understand why the sentence could be misinterpreted. Now I'm curious to know what Kelly shared with her mom and friends about her relationship with KZ. Us girls know, if Kelly was into him, she'd most likely discuss him with her friends. :winkkiss:

http://communities.washingtontimes....6/missing-person-alert-help-find-kelly-dwyer/
reposting the link - good article!

 

[Justiceforever]

Thanks Justice for pointing that out. Not my intention to twist Kelly's father's words. Sorry Sleuthers!! How could I misinterpret that.:banghead:

No worries. i thought maybe i read it wrong

 

[Blessed2Bme]

I chuckled when I read, "For those who want to pray in person, there are plenty of churches in the Milwaukee area".

Also, "For those doing internet searches, disregard any information connected to a columnist who writes about basketball. That is a different Kelly Dwyer who is a male, safe, and sound."

Best, "Where there is love, there is always hope."

Thanks Blessed. The author probably was quoting Kelly's father who said Kelly told him that she loves him not long before she disappeared. Now, her dad is clinging to her words and realizing he never thought it would be the last time he heard her speak those words. Having to live through something like this is horrible and whoever is torturing Kelly's parents by not revealing where they put Kelly is a monster. Of course, typing that is a waste of time because the person who would do this doesn't care about the pain they're causing other people.

Regarding the first sentence in the article, our minds hear what we're thinking about when a sentence isn't clearly written. I understand why the sentence could be misinterpreted. Now I'm curious to know what Kelly shared with her mom and friends about her relationship with KZ. Us girls know, if Kelly was into him, she'd most likely discuss him with her friends. :winkkiss:

http://communities.washingtontimes....6/missing-person-alert-help-find-kelly-dwyer/
reposting the link - good article!

BBM

Exactly Woe. Thanks for understanding. You have a unique way of writing,

better than I ever could. Back to lurking for me!! LOL :blushing:

 

[Justiceforever]

BBM

Exactly Woe. Thanks for understanding. You have a unique way of writing,

better than I ever could. Back to lurking for me!! LOL :blushing:

Oh no, please don't be embarrassed and please don't stop posting. You are appreciated here!

 

[Blessed2Bme]

Oh no, please don't be embarrassed and please don't stop posting. You are appreciated here!

Aww Justice :facepalm:, Thankyou!! Don't get me wrong, I definitely will keep posting updates as they come available for sure. It was an honest (hopeful thinking) oversight.

I love Websleuths. My venture for justice will not keep me away.:cheerful:

Thanks for your support and appreciation!

 

[Willow Knight]

Monday marks one month since 27-year-old Kelly Dwyer last seen

I wonder is she is still there?