WI WI - Kelly Dwyer, 27, Milwaukee, 11 Oct 2013 - #1

[Oploc2005]

BBM

Hi Oploc,

Where is said picture? TIA

I cant seem to upload it I'm new to this still learning so if there is a easy way let me know please

 

[Oploc2005]

Stark contrast is according to her friend and father as stated in the article I posted.

I don't personally know Kelly.
I was happy to read her friend's comments, because KZ, whether his claims are true or not, paint Kelly in a bad light.
I've decided not to trust his claims about the drug purchases based on the other evidence I know he is/was hiding.

Maya Angelou taught, via Oprah, that, "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
Got to go with my gut sometimes.

I can't agree more they were dating 9 months or more kelly talked about him seemed happy then she goes missing and he drags her in this mess talks about her visiting only for drugs. Not once did he try and help find kelly. Oops yes he did review the cameras with some of kellys family but that was it. If she was a girlfriend or friend then he would not drag her name in the mud like this and he sure in the hell would of atleast shown concern she was missing. This is too easy for him clearly looks like he has some serious issues to say the least.

 

[Oploc2005]

My tears flow for Kelly's parents.

http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/Kelly-Dwyers-father--232927191.html

Kelly's father fears Kelly is no longer alive. It's been six weeks since she went missing, last seen at her boyfriend's apartment.

Her mother doesn't know how they can move forward not knowing what happened or where Kelly is. She knows the police have investigated but wonders if there's more that can be done (translate, parents aren't privy to information or progress regarding the investigation). Kelly's parents don't know where to turn or what to do next. Who would know how to do that?

I wish I knew how to comfort them or had the power to promise them strength for the coming days.
I'll pray they receive answers soon.

I talked with Tony before interview and after we are hoping more resources come forward DCI , FBI etc. They are holding up best they can but frustration is setting in fast. While I feel strongly that Zocco is involved I also have my concerns about one other potential perp who knew Kelly had been with her day or two before she went missing. I'd hate to focus solely on one potential suspect when we are not 100% sure there is no other person or people involved

 

[Oploc2005]

You've got to be kidding. I know you're not. Unbelievable.

Is this on the drug charges alone?
Or does it involve the whole case to include the child ?

I need to take a break as I'm too wrapped up and can't believe what I've just read.

Praying for justice one way or another.

Drug charges only so far. They went and questioned him about kelly he admitted using drugs so they got warrant came back found drugs. Detective said on stand at arraignment hearing she never read him his rights his lawyer specifically asked

 

[Oploc2005]

I just believe it boils down to respect. I am married, so it would be disrespectful and inappropriate for my husband to spend the night with any woman. (And I trust him 100%.) JMO

None of this makes any sense at all but to clarify few things. KZ had to admit that she was there as people saw them leave bar go in there which the LE saw them enter at approx 3am but he mentioned leaving again to go get drugs so was he seen leaving again. Only reason to admit drugs would be maybe he is trying to hide the bigger picture his collection of sick and most importantly Kelly. Like I said he doesn't make sense did he really have to admit drugs something isn't adding up here I mean he left drugs and for them to come back and find but then maybe he never had time to react as he was busy hiding kelly. There is only one way he could have got her out of building per statement of guy she worked for as nanny. Unless she possibly left on her own will during time lapse on camera. We did find pair of shoes during search of woods behind his appt police took but never said if they were kellys luckily we take pictures of every find. A women visited out search efforts page with some real good observations. www.facebook.com/kellydwyersearchefforts

 

[J Block]

OPLOC2005 -

Not sure if you have knowledge of this. . When LE first made contact w/ Zocco pertaining to Kelly's disappearance, was he questioned in his apartment only? Did he at anytime, prior to the warrant service, speak in the presence of LE anywhere else other than his apt? Did he ever go to Police headquarters?

Does anybody else know if anything of this nature was stated in media?

 

[bwt42]

I think something happened to KD that night in KZ's apartment. It would be so damaging to him he didn't go to the police. From that point on he lied or told the truth to protect himself. I'm trying to assess his truthfulness about them doing cocaine that night and his characterization of it. He didn't know if she had told others about it or if it would come out some other way. Therefore, it would be better to tell le about it rather than later being caught in a lie.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

OPLOC2005 -

Not sure if you have knowledge of this. . When LE first made contact w/ Zocco pertaining to Kelly's disappearance, was he questioned in his apartment only? Did he at anytime, prior to the warrant service, speak in the presence of LE anywhere else other than his apt? Did he ever go to Police headquarters?

Does anybody else know if anything of this nature was stated in media?

LE questioned him at his apartment about Kelly's disappearance. The pdf posted in this thread has both the drug findings report and the recap of the interview about the evening and night he spent with Kelly.
He wasn't arrested that day directly from his apartment though.

I recall that he was picked up on the drug charges, nearby to his place of employment, on the street.
So, if true, how could LE screw that up when the purpose was to locate him and arrest him?
The thought of this makes my blood boil. How is it possible a cop doesn't know that drill?

The second time he was arrested, for possessing child , was at his mother's house in Richfield.

I'm feeling lazy today or I'd dig around for links. Going by memory, this is how I remember things went down.

In what instances is LE required to read him his rights? My quess is, one, on the street and, two, at his mother's house. Why would it be necessary to read rights when at his apartment?
You already explained that, if KZ had been cuffed during the time of the search, but we don't know that to be the case. Is that normal procedure?
I picture the one detective interviewing him while, at the same time, the other/s looked around as there was a warrant to do so. KZ wasn't under arrest at that time.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I cant seem to upload it I'm new to this still learning so if there is a easy way let me know please

Sorry, Oploc. I'm a cavewoman and lucky I know how to do anything beyond turning on my TV. Frustrating!

 

[Oploc2005]

OPLOC2005 -

Not sure if you have knowledge of this. . When LE first made contact w/ Zocco pertaining to Kelly's disappearance, was he questioned in his apartment only? Did he at anytime, prior to the warrant service, speak in the presence of LE anywhere else other than his apt? Did he ever go to Police headquarters?

Does anybody else know if anything of this nature was stated in media?

From what I can tell is they came talked to him about kelly where he admitted to drug use then they went to get warrant searched got drugs arrested him held him max 72hrs at MPD then charged him on drugs and transferred him to CJF. I assume they drilled him those 72hrs in custody. When he was in court first time layer asked detective did she ever read him his rights and she said no. Smh

 

[Oploc2005]

This Sunday 11am I'm asking anyone & everyone to come out for this search. Kelly Dwyer is still Missing and her family is asking for our help. This is really important that we find kelly and keep her in the public eye. Please dress warm and wear good walking shoes or boots.

Pick 'n Save1100 E Garfield Ave, Milwaukee, WI
11am sunday
Please visit like and share page

www.facebook.com/kellydwyersearchefforts

 

[J Block]

LE questioned him at his apartment about Kelly's disappearance. The pdf posted in this thread has both the drug findings report and the recap of the interview about the evening and night he spent with Kelly.
He wasn't arrested that day directly from his apartment though.

I recall that he was picked up on the drug charges, nearby to his place of employment, on the street.
So, if true, how could LE screw that up when the purpose was to locate him and arrest him?
The thought of this makes my blood boil. How is it possible a cop doesn't know that drill?

The second time he was arrested, for possessing child , was at his mother's house in Richfield.

I'm feeling lazy today or I'd dig around for links. Going by memory, this is how I remember things went down.

In what instances is LE required to read him his rights? My quess is, one, on the street and, two, at his mother's house. Why would it be necessary to read rights when at his apartment?
You already explained that, if KZ had been cuffed during the time of the search, but we don't know that to be the case. Is that normal procedure?
I picture the one detective interviewing him while, at the same time, the other/s looked around as there was a warrant to do so. KZ wasn't under arrest at that time.

Miranda is given when there are 2 things. Custody and Interrogation. Custody has a wide scope. Something simple as being in a room w/ a closed door or being handcuffed. You can be in custody and interrogated in a plethora of places, including your own domicile.

I was simply tossing around the idea of how his attorneys think he could get off on a Miranda technicality. The only scenario I could come up w/ is if he was questioned while handcuffed about the drugs. Then if that info is what was used to obtain the search warrant, that is where a problem could arise.

IMO, just because the officer didn't Mirandize Keyes, doesn't necessarily mean Keyes was ever in the position that required a Miranda warning. Thus making that officers statement in court irrelavant.

 

[J Block]

Also. Regarding handcuffing. At any time, an officer can handcuff someone when they feel there may be a threat to anyone's safety for any reason. Its dependant upon any situation/scenario, and up to Officer's discretion.

 

[Snoods]

I can't agree more they were dating 9 months or more kelly talked about him seemed happy then she goes missing and he drags her in this mess talks about her visiting only for drugs. Not once did he try and help find kelly. Oops yes he did review the cameras with some of kellys family but that was it. If she was a girlfriend or friend then he would not drag her name in the mud like this and he sure in the hell would of atleast shown concern she was missing. This is too easy for him clearly looks like he has some serious issues to say the least.

BBM. KZ's immediate denigration of Kelly to the police as nothing more than a "drug buddy" is very telling, along with his lack of concern about Kelly's whereabouts and well-being. Usually the reason someone has no curiosity or drive to find out what happened to a loved one is because to them, it is already known.

 

[Snoods]

This Sunday 11am I'm asking anyone & everyone to come out for this search. Kelly Dwyer is still Missing and her family is asking for our help. This is really important that we find kelly and keep her in the public eye. Please dress warm and wear good walking shoes or boots.

Pick 'n Save1100 E Garfield Ave, Milwaukee, WI
11am sunday
Please visit like and share page

www.facebook.com/kellydwyersearchefforts

How did searching go today? Thank you so much for your efforts. Wish I could have been there.

 

[Snoods]

Miranda is given when there are 2 things. Custody and Interrogation. Custody has a wide scope. Something simple as being in a room w/ a closed door or being handcuffed. You can be in custody and interrogated in a plethora of places, including your own domicile.

I was simply tossing around the idea of how his attorneys think he could get off on a Miranda technicality. The only scenario I could come up w/ is if he was questioned while handcuffed about the drugs. Then if that info is what was used to obtain the search warrant, that is where a problem could arise.

IMO, just because the officer didn't Mirandize Keyes, doesn't necessarily mean Keyes was ever in the position that required a Miranda warning. Thus making that officers statement in court irrelavant.

BBM. Thank you for this information. It makes me feel a bit better about the hopeful lack of success KZ's lawyers will have with this attempt to get him off on the charges. If someone is innocent of the charges that is one thing, but I would be sick if he were able to weasel out on a technicality.

 

[mke2013]

BBM. KZ's immediate denigration of Kelly to the police as nothing more than a "drug buddy" is very telling, along with his lack of concern about Kelly's whereabouts and well-being. Usually the reason someone has no curiosity or drive to find out what happened to a loved one is because to them, it is already known.

KZ had another girlfriend that was known to family and friends. Kelly was a secret relationship. He may have downplayed his relationship with Kelly as some type of warped effort to hold onto the girlfriend he had for many years. By describing her as a girlfriend he would indicate a sexual relationship whereas the term "friend" is somewhat vague. I'm not agreeing with the situation or tactic but that could have been his thought process.

 

[Justiceforever]

https://m.facebook.com/CASSMISSINGWI?id=596785933692006&_rdr#!/CASSMISSINGWI/about?__user=1210184933

OT but here's a 15 year old girl who went missing one week ago, also North side, Milwaukee. Most certainly unrelated to Kelly, but Mykala and Cassandra's ^^^^disappearance could be related? `

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/...ssing-since-friday-b99146586z1-232644731.html

 

[Oploc2005]

OT but here's a 15 year old girl who went missing one week ago, also North side, Milwaukee. Most certainly unrelated to Kelly, but Mykala and Cassandra's ^^^^disappearance could be related? `

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/...ssing-since-friday-b99146586z1-232644731.html

My Organization has reached out to both families in hopes to offer extra resources

 

[Justiceforever]

My Organization has reached out to both families in hopes to offer extra resources

Thank you for that.