WI WI - Nicholas Hietpas, 22, & dog, vehicle found abandoned in Oconto Co., Appleton, 1 Apr 2019

[mlhenn]

April 1 marks three years since man’s disappearance in Oconto County

April 04, 2022
April 1 marks three years since the disappearance of a man whose vehicle was later found in Oconto County.

Nicholas Jeffrey Hietpas, an Appleton resident, was 22-years old when he went missing. He would be 25-years old now.

Family and friends last saw Hietpas on April 1, 2019.

On April 18, Hietpas’ black Ford Fusion was located on an ATV trail near Highway 64 and Shadow Lake Road in the Town of Doty, which is between Mountain and White Lake. Authorities believe he was with his white German Shepherd Samantha.

 

[Luckyzmom]

Where are you guys ? Prayers for Nicholas y Samantha and family and friends

 

[Rosiebones]

So much we never knew and so much we will never know about this. I pray his family has closure.

 

[Caring1]

**Bump for Nicholas (and Samantha)**

Nicholas was last seen by family and friends on 04/01/2019. Nicholas' vehicle was located on an ATV trail in Doty, Wisconsin on 04/18/2019. It is believed Nicholas' white German Shepard dog was with him. Several searches of the wooded area surrounding where Nicholas' vehicle was located were performed but Nicholas and his dog were not located. Nicholas was possibly wearing a black sweatshirt with green lettering, blue jeans, and brown work boots.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[anonypotomous]

This case still breaks my heart. Sweet young man and his loyal dog

 

[Yoops]

Just became aware of some of the details in this case after watching a "top 10" national parks missing persons/missing 411 YouTube video the other day. The name sounded familiar and after looking into it I realized it's pretty close to where I live (within an hour or so), so I must have seen it on local news at some point but since forgotten. I remember the name of the road because it's on the route my wife and I take to travel to Appleton when we visit friends or shop there. I've never stopped in that area and am not familiar with it, no reason to since it's just one spot along the way and there's really nothing there.
The foul play angle unfortunately seems to be the most likely to me. Just a quick look at google earth shows that the area is rural and wooded but not necessarily desolate; where I assume his car was found looks like only a few minutes walking distance to several nearby houses. Given this, the most suspicious aspect imo is the missing dog. The dog, assuming it hadn't been injured or killed would most likely have shown up at one of the houses or been seen along the road and subsequently picked up by a resident or local animal control. If Nicholas was injured or deceased in the woods somewhere, at some point the dog would have left him, it wouldn't just stay there until it died. If it had died or been killed nearby the searchers would surely have found it and likely Nicholas as well. Since he was known to be missing and the dog was in the photo it would have been ID'd immediately as his if someone had seen it or was at a local shelter. The fact that both were just simply gone, collar was removed and left at the car is suspicious; if you're hiking in the woods with a dog, that's the last situation you'd want to remove a collar with its ID tags etc. Since the area was thoroughly searched (I assume with tracking dogs etc) it seems like both he and the dog must have left in another vehicle, and in that case there's no way to know where either are at except that they're not near where the vehicle was found. Another possibility is he ran afoul of someone in another location and the car was left where it was found by that person or persons. All just speculation until real evidence shows up though.
I haven't had a chance to read through this entire thing here and I just joined so I may have missed something, but has anyone heard of updates? This is a strange case which does have some "missing 411" aspects to it although I can't say that confidently not knowing all the details, not sure if it would meet David Paulides's criteria. I'm also curious how closely the authorities looked into the residents of the nearby houses. Any criminal records there? Anyone have documented run-ins with trespassers? You'd hate to make assumptions but if you've watched enough true crime, you can never be too thorough.

 

[Yoops]

It looks like he may have been interrupted in preparing either to set up a campsite or to cover his car. Are there bears or other wildlife that could have attacked and carried Samantha away and he followed to try and save her? Is this area more wild than settled?

There are many telltales signs of an animal attack and they didn't mention any. If that happened in the vicinity of the vehicle either to he or the dog there would be signs of that in the area that was searched by tracking dogs.

 

[Yoops]

Just checking in to see if there has been an update.
It occurs to me that both Oconto County sheriff and Appleton Police dept. are asking for tips on his whereabouts but not updating the public in any way. The family wants and needs folks to provide information but there is no direction provided.
If foul play is not involved and he just wanted to start a new life, why did he leave his means of transportation into that new life? This leads me to believe that there was self harm or he did meet with harm ( either wild life or another person).
So many potential avenues of investigation don't seem to be addressed, and it is really, really frustrating.

I'm guessing the LE information blackout is either they really do have that little information and nothing to go on, or that the things they do know could tip their hand and compromise the investigation. There could be pieces of info that only someone involved would know and they don't want that out in the public, which is understandable. I'd rather they do that than make every detail public just to satisfy people's curiosity.

 

[Yoops]

Too much we aren't privy to, but that is what it is. Deputies or SARs confirm bear tracks in the area. Bear always unpredictable, but if LE has signs at the scene we don't know. There's also the possibility of ruthless locals. Meth problem in many rural forested areas. Could they have happened upon a calndestine cook site ? Have been told by residents of Wi that a lot of local constabulary do not pursue missing adults aggressively because these people have a right to walk away from their lives. I respect that . However sometimes what we see as odd or troublesome LE doesn't. Will keep searching media up there and Keep them and the family in my prayers. Always think hope they are warm and safe. Avid hikers are extremely resourceful ! MOO

I don't buy the "ruthless locals" line of thinking. A little too Hollywood a version of the local area residents up here in the Northwoods. If someone disappears under suspicious circumstances anyone known to LE would be prime suspects right away. The only thing I'd ask on that subject is there are several houses nearby; it's not totally deserted. Has LE checked any of the owners in the vicinity for criminal records, or documented incidents of dealing with trespassers etc?

 

[Yoops]

Been over and over this in these months and now year that followed. Didn't see to me to be a good place to camp , but all I have to go by is Google Earth... Gear sitting outside of vehicle...was he looking for something while stopped there or was he ever there at all ?
If he was robbed or carjacked and vehicle dumped there, did the perp/perps still have Samantha with them ? And the collar is super hinky to me as well.
Lots we don't know, hopefully his family has a pretty good idea and I hope they find answers that bring them comfort.
That scene would have screamed foul play to me ... Unless Nicholas had a breakdown and just said screw it and walked away. Can't see him leaving the scene and taking her collar off.
Any thoughts from y'all on this scene where car and gear were found ?
Could it have been planned by Nicholas and someone else to ditch car and disappear ? Having someone pick him up there ?
Thanks all, this makes me nuts !! Try not to dwell on am not LE and I guess nothing found there bothered them. We don't even know if car broke down there or was just stopped....MOO MOO Pray for them daily still hoping....

Looking on google earth, there are houses a few minute's walk down the paved road (64) so if he broke down and needed help I'm sure he wouldn't have walked south into the national forest or just off into the woods in general. Sounds from what I've read the collar was found south of 64 though on Blue Spruce rd but not positive. The only reasons for that are he or someone else brought the dog down there, removed the collar and tossed it thinking it was far enough from the car not to be found, or the dog was running loose there, got tangled in something and it released as it should. Or neither Nicholas or the dog were even in the area and the vehicle and collar were left where they were found by another person or persons. The only reason I think the dog may never have been there is it was never seen running around the area or picked up by anyone, despite the ongoing search looking for Nicholas and the dog. Either way it doesn't look good, and now it's going on 4 years..

 

[Yoops]

I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly where the vehicle was found - and also exactly where the dog's collar was found. Can anybody help me out?

Re: the vehicle:

"...was found on a forest road.."

"The vehicle was less than a quarter mile off State 64 on the road, which turns back onto Shadow Lake Road"

(I assume when they say "on the road" they're talking about a/the forest rd), so,

which Forest Service Road - the one between Shadow Lake and Star Lake, or the one (actually I see two) that is/are south of 64, in the Blue Spruce Rd area? TIA

I assumed that referred to the short section of ATV trail (Blue Spruce rd/FSR 2316) that crosses 64 east of Shadow Lake rd intersection, then swings around to the west paralleling [north of] 64 until it comes back out on Shadow Lake rd a little bit north of the intersection. Based on the description I'm not sure where else they could be referring to. I don't see it on google maps but it's there on google earth and can be seen on street view. Might be a new section of trail not shown in that imagery. Makes sense the vehicle wasn't found right away, can't really see much from the highway since it looks like there's an embankment/trees, although I've never been down that road so I can't be certain. The ATV trails wouldn't have been open yet so there was probably very little traffic on them; also most ATVs might just go down the highway shoulder instead of taking that short hop around the intersection. That and most people know better than to mess with parked vehicles, not knowing if the owner is around or even if there are trail cameras set up.

 

[Yoops]

Just became aware of some of the details in this case after watching a "top 10" national parks missing persons/missing 411 YouTube video the other day. The name sounded familiar and after looking into it I realized it's pretty close to where I live (within an hour or so), so I must have seen it on local news at some point but since forgotten. I remember the name of the road because it's on the route my wife and I take to travel to Appleton when we visit friends or shop there. I've never stopped in that area and am not familiar with it, no reason to since it's just one spot along the way and there's really nothing there.
The foul play angle unfortunately seems to be the most likely to me. Just a quick look at google earth shows that the area is rural and wooded but not necessarily desolate; where I assume his car was found looks like only a few minutes walking distance to several nearby houses. Given this, the most suspicious aspect imo is the missing dog. The dog, assuming it hadn't been injured or killed would most likely have shown up at one of the houses or been seen along the road and subsequently picked up by a resident or local animal control. If Nicholas was injured or deceased in the woods somewhere, at some point the dog would have left him, it wouldn't just stay there until it died. If it had died or been killed nearby the searchers would surely have found it and likely Nicholas as well. Since he was known to be missing and the dog was in the photo it would have been ID'd immediately as his if someone had seen it or was at a local shelter. The fact that both were just simply gone, collar was removed and left at the car is suspicious; if you're hiking in the woods with a dog, that's the last situation you'd want to remove a collar with its ID tags etc. Since the area was thoroughly searched (I assume with tracking dogs etc) it seems like both he and the dog must have left in another vehicle, and in that case there's no way to know where either are at except that they're not near where the vehicle was found. Another possibility is he ran afoul of someone in another location and the car was left where it was found by that person or persons. All just speculation until real evidence shows up though.
I haven't had a chance to read through this entire thing here and I just joined so I may have missed something, but has anyone heard of updates? This is a strange case which does have some "missing 411" aspects to it although I can't say that confidently not knowing all the details, not sure if it would meet David Paulides's criteria. I'm also curious how closely the authorities looked into the residents of the nearby houses. Any criminal records there? Anyone have documented run-ins with trespassers? You'd hate to make assumptions but if you've watched enough true crime, you can never be too thorough.

I read later that the collar was found 1/2 mile or so away, not at the vehicle. Possibly down Blue Spruce road/Nat. Forest Road 2316? Curious if it was just sitting in plain sight on or near the road, or if was not in an obvious spot and the tracking dogs found it?

 

[Yoops]

I searched SR64 and Shadow Lake Rd. There are notes from SO search up thread here that might be helpful. Didn't check Blue Spruce Rd, will try that too. Many Thanks
I think the dog collar was a half mile down the road where car and gear was found. That is up this thread as well

I like to go hiking and ATV riding/jeeping in Nat. forest areas like that myself but never have in that area; only thing I know of it is what I can see from satellite imagery after finding out about this story. If it were me and I was parked where I assume the car was found, I'd be heading back south across 64 to the large area of NF land with no apparent houses or private property. To the north and the west it looks like there are houses etc I assume have a lot of private property surrounding them and I'm sure people wouldn't like hikers tromping around. Can't speak to Nicholas's woodsmanship skills but I'm sure he probably just looked at google maps to find a good place to go that's NF/wilderness, that's what I'd have done anyway. To the south of 64 looks like a great place to go hiking etc with lots of trails, offshoots etc you could spend hours on and would be tough to get lost. I'd like to know how far into that area the search extended because it's the largest swath of uninterrupted woods he would have had access to, assuming he left on foot from his vehicle.

Thanks Luckyzmom. I had gone through the car location info up thread, but found it unclear (if not contradictory). And the general location of the dog's collar was, well, too general (I had been wondering whether the collar was found on Spruce Rd., or say, 500 yards off of the road in the woods/brush?). I just thought maybe I'd missed something. It doesn't sound like very specific location info for either item has been released by LE.

The reason I found the vehicle location info so confounding is that there IS no forest service road off of Shadow Lake Rd that is also within a quarter mile of State 64 (not a named one anyway). National Forest Rd 2117 is over a mile away (north even of Shadow Lake). And the two forest service roads south of State 64 are Blue Spruce (2316) and the smaller one that crosses Blue Spruce - but neither of those is off of Shadow Lake Road... So, to me, the description of the car's location is very unclear.

I did find (in a media link I believe) a quote by the Sheriff saying that the dog's collar was found "near Spruce Rd, about a half mile from his car". But that was too vague to be of much use in answering my question as to whether NH and the dog were possibly on the road or way off in the bush.

I was just curious to learn if perhaps:

1.) the vehicle was found on private property (I would find it odd that an outdoors type - a hiker and/or camper - would choose to do either activity on private property), and,

2.) although the location immediately north and south of 64 may be great for ATV trail riding (sounds like it was before the storm, anyway), is it the kind of place (whether public or private) that would be attractive to most hikers and/or campers?

If not (and from google earth it doesn't appear to be), imo, NH (assuming he was the one who drove the car to that location) might not have been there to hike or camp. Jmo

The imagery I see currently on google maps is old, from 2014. If you look at google earth the updated satellite image shows a short section of new trail where Blue Spruce road crosses 64 from the south, then swings west, paralleling 64 for a short distance through the woods before coming out on Shadow Lake rd just north of its intersection with 64. This seems to me to fit the description where the car was found. My guess is this short section of trail allowed ATVs to not have to drive down the highway shoulder in order to access Shadow Lake rd. Since there's private property to the north and west of 64, my guess is he just parked there because it was out of sight of the highway, and went hiking in the wilderness area to the south which is wide open to hiking and ATV riding, etc. It sounds like the collar was found there south of 64 down Blue Spruce road which is also the ATV trail (forest road 2316). If it was me I would be hiking in that area as well - I haven't been down this road but when I look for wilderness areas to go hiking, ATV riding jeeping etc that's what I tend to look for as well; someplace to park my vehicle off the highway and easy access to the wilderness area where I'm not going to end up on private property and lots of roads to explore.

 

[Yoops]

I like to go hiking and ATV riding/jeeping in Nat. forest areas like that myself but never have in that area; only thing I know of it is what I can see from satellite imagery after finding out about this story. If it were me and I was parked where I assume the car was found, I'd be heading back south across 64 to the large area of NF land with no apparent houses or private property. To the north and the west it looks like there are houses etc I assume have a lot of private property surrounding them and I'm sure people wouldn't like hikers tromping around. Can't speak to Nicholas's woodsmanship skills but I'm sure he probably just looked at google maps to find a good place to go that's NF/wilderness, that's what I'd have done anyway. To the south of 64 looks like a great place to go hiking etc with lots of trails, offshoots etc you could spend hours on and would be tough to get lost. I'd like to know how far into that area the search extended because it's the largest swath of uninterrupted woods he would have had access to, assuming he left on foot from his vehicle.

The imagery I see currently on google maps is old, from 2014. If you look at google earth the updated satellite image shows a short section of new trail where Blue Spruce road crosses 64 from the south, then swings west, paralleling 64 for a short distance through the woods before coming out on Shadow Lake rd just north of its intersection with 64. This seems to me to fit the description where the car was found. My guess is this short section of trail allowed ATVs to not have to drive down the highway shoulder in order to access Shadow Lake rd. Since there's private property to the north and west of 64, my guess is he just parked there because it was out of sight of the highway, and went hiking in the wilderness area to the south which is wide open to hiking and ATV riding, etc. It sounds like the collar was found there south of 64 down Blue Spruce road which is also the ATV trail (forest road 2316). If it was me I would be hiking in that area as well - I haven't been down this road but when I look for wilderness areas to go hiking, ATV riding jeeping etc that's what I tend to look for as well; someplace to park my vehicle off the highway and easy access to the wilderness area where I'm not going to end up on private property and lots of roads to explore.

A side note/minor detail here - I was on my way back from a work trip recently and was near this section of road again so I decided to go over there and see if this last message I posted was accurate since it was just a few miles off the main highway. Turns out it's correct, the short section of ATV trail is there. The road to the south (Blue Spruce) is a narrow dirt forest service road and the landscape is very thick with pine trees growing up to the edge of the road (at least at first) that would be pretty tough to walk through to search etc. Trees seem a bit taller now than street view shows. I didn't go down there because it was muddy & I didn't feel like getting stuck. Seems like it would be difficult to find anyone in there if the wider area is like that IMO.

 

[Pennysmom1]

Nicholas Jeffrey Hietpas​

Updated: Jan 9, 2022

Nicholas Jeffrey Hietpas and his white German Shepard, Samantha.

Last seen on April 1, 2019

Family and friends reported 22- year-old Nicholas Jeffrey Hietpas missing on April 1, 2019 in Appleton, WI. His white German Shepard named Samantha is also missing.

On April 18, 2019, an ATV rider found Nicholas’s black 2012 Ford Fusion in Doty in the 1.5-million-acre Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest, less than a quarter mile off State 64 and Shadow Lake Road.

A tarp and other gear were located outside the car, and Samantha’s dog collar was found about one-half mile away from the vehicle’s location. It was reported that the collar appeared to have been unclasped by someone.

Deputies conducted three searches with dogs but did not locate Nicholas or his dog.

Nicholas may be wearing a black sweatshirt with green lettering, blue jeans, and brown work boots. He has short, brown hair, and a tattoo of two squiggly uppercase letter Ys on the inner left wrist. One of the Ys is right side up and the other is upside down.

Nicholas Jeffrey Hietpas

Last seen on April 1, 2019 Family and friends reported 22- year-old Nicholas Jeffrey Hietpas missing on April 1, 2019 in Appleton, WI. His white German Shepard named Samantha is also missing. On April 18, 2019, an ATV rider found Nicholas’s black 2012 Ford Fusion in Doty in the 1.5-million-acre...

www.wimissing.org

 

[Snoop Sister]

imo someone got away with murder

 

[Rosiebones]

imo someone got away with murder

I absolutely, 100%, completely and unequivocally agree. And, I have never been impressed with the investigation into his disappearance. MOO MOO MOO

 

[unicorn80]

I don't like to think that something bad happened to this young man and his dog but when you watch a lot of true crime you come up with different scenarios of what could have happened. I'm wondering if he responded to an advertisement of something someone was selling. His family doesn't even know why he would go up there even with him being an outdoors kind of person, so I feel like someone may have lured him to that location. If he was lured to this location, then that same person could have been the one who unleashed the dog considering his collar was found a half mile away from the vehicle. One thing I am confused by is how the dog collar ended up a half mile away unless the dog carried it that far and then dropped it but not sure how likely that would be. If Nicholas and his dog are deceased, they could be in a part of the forest that hasn't been searched or somewhere else entirely. I hope they do find him and Samantha so the family can have closure.

 

[poopybilly]

Sorry mods if this is not allowed! it's been several years since i have posted. I just thought this might be of interest to the case...

I was doing some research on this case and found Nicks alltrails profile!

Perhaps there are some clues within his past activities? His profile shows his maps, activities, reviews etc. I am not sure if this is worth any value to the case but I figured I would leave it here.

Nick Hietpas
Appleton, Wisconsin
Member since October 2017
1 Followers 0 Following

Under “ACTIVITIES” there are some actual maps that look to have tracked his progress while hiking/walking. I am curious if these might help give us some clues on his possible location. I know several years have gone by, but I figured it's still might be worth looking into.

Under “COMPLETED” these are his completed hikes:

Rib Mountain Yellow Trail
Rib Mountain State Park
Length: 4.4 mi • Est. 2h 8m

Lime Kiln Trail
High Cliff State Park
Length: 1.9 mi • Est. 51m

Feldtmann Lake Loop Trail
Isle Royale National Park
Length: 32.9 mi • Est. 11h 57m

Windigo to Feldtmann Lake
Isle Royale National Park
Length: 17.5 mi • Est. 5h 45m

Rainbow Cove Trail
Isle Royale National Park
Length: 1.7 mi • Est. 33m

Superior, Big Carp, and Escarpment Loop
Porcupine Mountains Wilderness State Park
Length: 17.3 mi • Est. 6h 16m

Big Carp River Trail
Porcupine Mountains Wilderness State Park
Length: 16.2 mi • Est. 6h 6m

Escarpment Trail
Porcupine Mountains Wilderness State Park
Length: 8.4 mi • Est. 4h 9m

Lake of the Clouds
Porcupine Mountains Wilderness State Park
Length: 1.8 mi • Est. 52m

Government Peak Loop
Porcupine Mountains Wilderness State Park
Length: 14.7 mi • Est. 6h 28m

Point Beach Red Loop
Point Beach State Forest
Length: 2.9 mi • Est. 51m

Navarino Loop Trail
Navarino State Wildlife Area
Length: 4.6 mi • Est. 1h 24m

Navarino Nature Center Loop Trail
Navarino State Wildlife Area
Length: 4.4 mi • Est. 1h 20m

Four Seasons, Deer Run and Poplar Pass Loop
Gordon Bubolz Nature Preserve
Length: 2.7 mi • Est. 47m

White Cedar Trail Loop
Length: 1.3 mi • Est. 23m

Casaloma Conservancy Trail
Casaloma Conservancy
Length: 1.1 mi • Est. 19m

Old Stone Bridge Trail
Length: 2.3 mi • Est. 42m

Maribel Caves Trail
Cherney Maribel Caves County Park
Length: 3.3 mi • Est. 1h 7m

Under “REVIEWS” he left the following:

Lime Kiln Trail
about 6 years ago • Hiking
First snow of the year! Great hike!

Feldtmann Lake Loop Trail
about 6 years ago • Backpacking
Beautiful hike.

Rainbow Cove Trail
about 6 years ago • Backpacking
Super easy hike if you can find the trial offshoot. But very beautiful cove. You can lay on the rocks long after sunset and feel the heat. Also a great place to see moose around sunset if you're quiet.

Superior, Big Carp, and Escarpment Loop
about 6 years ago • Backpacking
This is a great loop. Walking along the lake give awesome opportunities for photos and rest spots where you can dip your feet in the water.

Big Carp River Trail
about 6 years ago • Backpacking
Great hike. Beautiful inland views with large nature trees. As with any of the trials here in the porcupine mountains. Get used to tree roots and mud puddles

Escarpment Trail
about 6 years ago • Backpacking
This can be a very difficult hike especially when it's the trial you use to start off. Your pack is the heaviest and your body has to right away get used to tough uphill and down hill. Great hike though

Lake of the Clouds
about 6 years ago • Backpacking
Beautiful. Highly recommend staying the night on the campsite that's on the point of the lake. Watch forbears on the cliff in front of you!

Government Peak Loop
about 6 years ago • Backpacking
Love this loop. Stayed on this trial several times. The hike is quite hard going uphill sometimes, especially if it's early in your trip and your backpack is heaviest. But beautiful views and river crossings. Highly recommend if you don't mind getting a little muddy.

Point Beach Red Loop
about 6 years ago • Hiking
There's a lot more trial system than what's shown here. But it's a fun hike. Sandy trials to wooded trials, fun with a dog!

Navarino Loop Trail
about 6 years ago • Hiking
Great variety in trials, some low lands some highlands. Interesting scenery that opens up to large areas of water . Very quite. A great place to walk a dog that loves nature. BUT BEWARE OF THE TICKS

Navarino Nature Center Loop Trail
about 6 years ago • Hiking
Great variety in trials, some low lands some highlands. Interesting scenery that opens up to large areas of water . Very quite. A great place to walk a dog that loves nature. BUT BEWARE OF THE TICKS

Four Seasons, Deer Run and Poplar Pass Loop
about 6 years ago • Walking
This used to be a great trial system, but with them clear cutting sections and redoing the area, they've taken a lot of the draw away.

White Cedar Trail Loop
about 6 years ago • Hiking
This used to be a great trial system, but with them clear cutting sections and redoing the area, they've taken a lot of the draw away.

Casaloma Conservancy Trail
about 6 years ago
This is a great little pea gravel trail for a short hike without having to leave town. Runs behind the timber rattlers trial to if you time it right you might catch a part of the game or a ball!

Old Stone Bridge Trail
about 6 years ago • Walking
If you're looking for a place to just walk between classes or on a lunch break. This'll do the trick. Otherwise its not good for much else. Loud from the city and and short loops.

Maribel Caves Trail
about 6 years ago • Hiking
Very nice maintained gravel trails. Not much in the way of distance, but quite nice scenery. Would recommend not going into the caves during warm weather months if you're not fond of large plentiful spiders. Good hike!

LINK TO HIS PROFILE:

https://www.alltrails.com/members/nick-hietpas

 

[poopybilly]

https://www.alltrails.com/members/nick-hietpas/recordings