WI WI - Ricky Jean Bryant, 4, Mauston, 19 Dec 1949

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I still say this case is eerily similar to the Sodder case that is also up here on websleuths. It just seems like that same eerie feeling as with the other case.

Laura Bean, I was going to say the same thing. I don't think that more than one or two children could be taken by a baby broker, like how there are so many Sodder children missing, but this could be a case of fire used to steal the child. Or, the fire created an opportunity. Whatever the case may be, it's very sad.
 
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Anniversary of disappearance today.

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Some possible bone fragments were sent to a state laboratory for analysis, but they were not identified as hers.
So did they get a dna sample from the fragments and determined the DNA wasnt hers, or were they unable to get a sample at all?
 
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So did they get a dna sample from the fragments and determined the DNA wasnt hers, or were they unable to get a sample at all?
That was in 1949. The state crime lab at the time didn't feel they were even human bone fragments it seems. Since that was the official determination at the time, I'm sure they weren't saved, whatever the fragments were. Today, it would be possible to look at these fragments better and maybe get DNA if they were even bone fragments(if there was a bigger piece or something), but I'm sure whatever they were, they are long gone.
 
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If she did survive, and had descendants, then hopefully they (or her, if still living and encouraged by family) test with some of the genetic genealogy databases. Descendants of Ricky's siblings could use any database to try to find her, although LE is limited in what databases they can use. If she really did survive, that is very likely the best chance at finding her. If she was their half sibling with an unknown father (it's possible her mother thought so, but was mistaken) the relationship wouldn't be as close, but she could still be found.

It's never mentioned if the family had any pets, but the bone fragments could have been from a pet? or even from meat the family was going to eat? I should try to find some of the original articles concerning the alleged bone fragments.
 
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Someone posted this case on reddit today. So I thought I would just give this board a bump for this little girl. Interesting case. Reminds me of other cases where there was a fire and a child went missing. Like the Sodder family, Ramona Brown (1984), are two that come to mind instantly. Hopefully one day this family has answers.
 
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at the time mom and dad were still married. dad was said to be a truck driver yet it says mom and grandmother had no money. Did dad? Was he seeing someone else at the time? Is there somewhere to find pictures of all the children?
 
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i just found an article that talks about a farmhouse fire in the same town on the same day but says the farm belongs to the bell family
 
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Bumping this thread up.
 
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It certainly sounds like a woman did pull up in a car and tell the brother to get help. Whether that's all she did is debatable. Is it possible she told him to go to the further house in an effort to make him walk farther away from the fire for his own safety?

As for out of wedlock and waiting 4 years, to me either that might be when Jeannie began to strongly resemble her birth father in one scenario, or she was simply appealing to a kidnapper and it had nothing to do with her parentage. But an unplanned kidnapping and a fire on the same day do seem to be too much of a coincidence, especially to be pulled off successfully. On the other hand, starting a fire (and potentially burning an entire house down) as a distraction seems like overkill, if not unnecessary. First, there would be other ways to possibly get her (kids did play outside then), and secondly a fire runs the risk of attracting even more people and attention to the area. Possible, but gutsy to kidnap a child while fully visible/describable...one would likely only do that if she knew she would not be recognized by anyone, and would never be seen in the area again. Or the car for that matter, even if it was a rental.

Meanwhile, I wonder how big "fragments" are, because there would be more than say, coin-sized pieces left. Even on a child the femur bones would be longer pieces unless they were shattered pre-fire, which seems unlikely. Overall, it's more likely charred remains would be found, not bone fragments.
 
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Today, I think a death certificate would probably be issued in similar circumstances, although it wasn't for Jeannie?
 
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Today, I think a death certificate would probably be issued in similar circumstances, although it wasn't for Jeannie?
You would probably have to petition the court for one after a sufficient amount of time and searching.
 

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