WI - Six people shot to death by Forest County deputy, Crandon, Oct 7, 2007

[Trino]

I don't care for the idea of a 20 yr. old being a deputy sheriff. While there certainly are exceptions, most 20 yr. olds don't have their life together yet. Cripes! The kid couldn't even legally drink! I'll bet heads will roll and lawsuits will follow.

One big question is what training and evaluation did recruits need to meet to become a deputy? Maybe in those small towns there isn't a lot of potential recruits from which to choose.

 

[cheko1]

did the 7th victim die? I just saw a headline "7 shot dead..."
Oh never mind ... they were counting the shooter as one of the dead :doh:

Apprently he had someone held hostage when he was shot. I wonder who that poor person was?

Lastnight they stated he held 6 hostages before he was shot!

 

[Taximom]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071008/ap_on_re_us/wisconsin_shooting;_ylt=AuTyleA_4wDf_BYs0lBoy69H2ocA

Peterson's father, Steve Peterson, said that the family planned to draft a statement to the public, but declined Monday to talk in detail. Nothing his family said about him now would be believable to most people, he said.
"It is very trying," he said.

and
The shooting raised questions among residents about whether Peterson had met requirements to become a law enforcement officer. David Franz, who is married to Marci Franz, said it was hard to accept that someone in law enforcement was the gunman.
"The first statement we said to each other was, 'How did he get through the system?'" Franz said.

 

[Trino]

Lastnight they stated he held 6 hostages before he was shot!

The person who was shot and released from the hospital was another officer. Apparently, before Peterson was killed, there were gunshots exchanged between him and his LE comrades.

However, there is still another person from the party who is still hospitalized in critical condition.

 

[SuziQ]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071008/ap_on_re_us/wisconsin_shooting;_ylt=AuTyleA_4wDf_BYs0lBoy69H2ocA

Peterson's father, Steve Peterson, said that the family planned to draft a statement to the public, but declined Monday to talk in detail. Nothing his family said about him now would be believable to most people, he said.
"It is very trying," he said.

I'm not dissing Petersons parents here. The comments people make under stress are odd sometimes.

 

[cheko1]

The person who was shot and released from the hospital was another officer. Apparently, before Peterson was killed, there were gunshots exchanged between him and his LE comrades.

However, there is still another person from the party who is still hospitalized in critical condition.

Thanks Trino I must of missed that!

 

[cheko1]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071008/ap_on_re_us/wisconsin_shooting;_ylt=AuTyleA_4wDf_BYs0lBoy69H2ocA

Peterson's father, Steve Peterson, said that the family planned to draft a statement to the public, but declined Monday to talk in detail. Nothing his family said about him now would be believable to most people, he said.
"It is very trying," he said.

I'm not dissing Petersons parents here. The comments people make under stress are odd sometimes.

Yes, I thought that statement was pretty off the wall too.

 

[BrowneyedEmily]

Does anyone know if they're streaming the PC?

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Never mind, it's streaming here.

http://www.wisn.com/index.html

 

[Taximom]

Yes, I thought that statement was pretty off the wall too.

I think they are probably as surprised he did this as anyone else is. Maybe he lived his two different lives very well, and hid them from his family too.

 

[CaliKid]

So were these hostages the ones he killed or others?

 

[SuziQ]

Cnn.com is having the presser. I like CNN over local stations because the local reporters usually interrupt or cut the presser short.

 

[BrowneyedEmily]

Awesome, thanks

 

[Taximom]

Fox says they are covering it too, starting now.

 

[BrowneyedEmily]

PC:

TP went to the house and argued, went to his car and got a gun, forced his way in and fired about 30 rounds. then he left the apartment and fired rounds at a responding officer, hit his cruiser and injured him, and then ran. They found him, shots were exchanged, and he was dead. They're performing autopsies on TP and victims.

 

[Taximom]

Atty Genl speaking. Thoughts and prayers go out to the families. Will continue to investigate this matter to establish an understanding of what happened. Still seeking answers. Investigation is ongoing.

Confirm now:
all evidence perp was Tyler Peterson and only him
2:47 a.m. 201 N. Hazelbel Apt B, TP entered, argument ensued, TP left the bldg, retrieved a rifle from his truck and forcibly reentered apartment. Approx. 30 rounds were fired. Naming victims now. Single survivor who was shot and has been interviewed by the DOJ. After he opened fire in the apt. he left and began shooting numerous rounds at Officer Carter, striking his car injuring Carter. TP then fled.

Agents and DOJ personnel were dispatched when asked for help. They are lead investigators. After TP fled, he was a fugitive. TP had phone conversations with LE, including Crandon Police Chief confirming he was the shooter. They located him (couldn't type fast enough for location where he was found) Shots were fired by LE and TP but won't say till autopsy is complete how he died. All the victims are undergoing autopsies.

Still working to complete the investigation. etc etc about different agencies involved etc.

Not all information in the media is accurate, some is speculation.

TP was employed by the Crandon PD and the Forest County Sheriff's dept. Both agencies cooperating in the investigation.

 

[BrowneyedEmily]

Superintendent:

School district working with LE agencies and AG and will not comment on investigation. Focus on helping students cope with the tragedy - extend sympathy to families and friends of young people who have died. Experts say returning to some type of normalcy asap is very important to help children begin healing process. Reopening school on Wed. District staff is processing tragedy and planning for students' return. Received offers from various school districts and will accept services that best help students and staff begin healing process.


Family memorial fund established - deposits made at any Leola (sp?) State Bank location to help families. Taking time to assess needs of students, staff, families and community before making decisions on school events. What they know now:
JV Football game - cancelled
Middle school basketball games tomorrow - cancelled
Girls volleyball game - undetermined
Varsity football game Friday - undetermined

Coaches and teams will make decisions on games.

Counseling services were available at a chapel - school counseling services for students will continue on Wed. at school. Do not know when funerals will be planned. Anticipate announcements will be made by families and authorities.

 

[Taximom]

Peterson family statement sounds like they are in shock over this too. I hope emily got it!

Good job and thanks, emily!

 

[BrowneyedEmily]

Pastor:

Asked by TP family to share statement:

Our hearts go out ot the victims, their families and their friends. We are grieving for yoru losses, we are very sorry for what has happened. This huge tragdey deeply affected everyone. Feel guilt and shame for TP acts. Struggling to respond like most of you. Don't know what we should to - many asking why and looking for answers. There is nothing that happened before or after yesterday's events that has given us any insight into why. We are in shock, disbelief that he would do such terrible things. This is not the Tyler we knew and loved. We don't know how to act - express love and support, are unsure of appropriate. Are hurting for all your losses as well as ours.


I didn't get all of it, some of it though!

 

[Taximom]

Said the gun/rifle he used was an AR-15:

Just heard no psych exam done. WHY NOT?

 

[BrowneyedEmily]

Q&A:

There was some type of dispute.

They were in a relationship in a few years, broken up back and forth. She was with friends, not with another BF - but still under investigation.

Approx. 2:47 am was when cop was not shot - received glass, etc. injuries. Treated and released.

Where gun came from? Still being investigated and confirmed, including whether there were multiple guns. The rifle was an AR15. LE uses a similar type of rifle - not confirmed that from LE, but is used by sheriff's department.

Victims? Asleep? Awake? Where in house? Details about victims - still being collected and confirmed to put together entire story, understand what going through.

Training TP received? Screening? He met the requirements to be hired in state of WI. Went through background investigations, ride-alongs, training. Not a psychological evaulation. Had no indication this would occur - shock, but important to realize that we treated him no longer as a cop, he was treated as a fugitive.

Conversation on phone with TP? Not getting into demands TP may have made to DAs office. DA had discussions with TP, attempt to have him surrender, discussion as to how accomplished, did attempt to negotiate settlement, but unsuccessful. We did talk to him, attempted to resolve the situation, but that was unsuccessful. When I talked to him on the phone, he was calm, he understood dilemma he was in. Not certain where he was at - he was on the phone.


Maybe more coming....