WI - Teresa Marie Halbach, 25, Manitowoc, 31 Oct 2005

[chicoliving]

Steven Avery planned while in prison the torture and murder of a young woman, and bought leg irons and handcuffs three weeks before he allegedly killed Teresa Halbach, the prosecutor said Wednesday.

The allegations are included in 32 pages of court documents accompanying additional charges filed Calumet County District Attorney Ken Kratz, the special prosecutor in the case. Kratz is charging Avery with first-degree sexual assault, kidnapping and false imprisonment.

Kratz also asked that the court revoke Avery's bond, now set at $500,000 cash, because he is charged with crimes that include premeditated abduction and torture.

more at link

http://www.sheboygan-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060309/SHE0101/603090518/1062

 

[Sherlockmom]

Kratz says that it is Avery who needs a gag order LOL!! Excerpt from article:

"Kratz said his comments in press conferences mirror those in the criminal complaints, which are public record. At the most recent news conferences on March 1 and 2, Kratz said he precluded his comments by telling the audience the "the defendants are presumed innocent," his response says.




"More importantly, many of the most chilling details were omitted from my public comments, although included in the complaint," he says.



"As the court is probably aware, and I assume Mr. Strang has been told, one person has been very willing to engage in media interviews throughout these proceedings — Steven Avery himself," Kratz said.

"Claims of innocence, police misconduct, prosecutorial zeal, conspiracy and other self-serving topics have been the norm on local TV, rather that the exception."

http://www.htrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060311/MAN0101/603110394/1358

Sherlockmom

 

[Sherlockmom]

" Len Kachinsky, an Appleton attorney and town of Menasha municipal judge, has been appointed to represent Brendan Dassey on charges the teen participated in the assault and slaying of Teresa Halbach. "

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060309/GPG0101/603090549/1207

Sherlockmom

 

[Sherlockmom]

"A woman from the East Coast called me a couple weeks ago saying she was planning to make a movie about Steven Avery.

I told her, in so many words, that if she was looking for insight into the man accused of the heinous rape, murder and mutilation in October of Teresa Halbach, she was talking to the wrong guy"

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=407592

Sherlockmom

 

[cheko1]

They need to put the gag order on Avery, Dassey's Mom & the entire Avery family! They're the ones doing all the talking.

Dassey's Mom is just trying to gain him sympathy to the public & its not going to work. :snooty:

 

[strach304]

I say let them keep talking, just like Scott Peterson and hopefully the prosecutor will be able to use some of it against them. This is imo a DP case if there ever was one. I have two daughters not a son but I can guarantee that if I did and he admitted to something like this I'd want him locked away for all of eternity.

 

[chicoliving]

The attorney for 16-year-old Brendan Dassey says he will ask the court for a change of venue.

Dassey and his uncle, Steven Avery, are charged with murdering and raping Teresa Halbach last Halloween.

Attorney Len Kachinsky says the case has received a lot of attention and he wants to be sure Dassey gets a fair trial.

Kachinsky says he plans to vigorously defend his client against charges he raped, murdered and helped burn the body of Teresa Halbach.

http://wfrv.com/topstories/local_story_073200815.html

 

[cheko1]

The attorney for 16-year-old Brendan Dassey says he will ask the court for a change of venue.

Dassey and his uncle, Steven Avery, are charged with murdering and raping Teresa Halbach last Halloween.

Attorney Len Kachinsky says the case has received a lot of attention and he wants to be sure Dassey gets a fair trial.

Kachinsky says he plans to vigorously defend his client against charges he raped, murdered and helped burn the body of Teresa Halbach.

http://wfrv.com/topstories/local_story_073200815.html

It will be very interesting to see where Dassey's trial is moved to. Don't think there is a county in Wi where they haven't heard about the SA case. Maybe wishful thinking on there behalf.

 

[lisag]

It will be very interesting to see where Dassey's trial is moved to. Don't think there is a county in Wi where they haven't heard about the SA case. Maybe wishful thinking on there behalf.

I'd LOVE to be on that jury !!!

GUILTY

 

[Ang50]

No wonder Project Innocence took his picture off their website - and it wasn't out of respect for Teresa's family. They plain f'd up. :loser:

No, they didn't mess up, and all of them feel horrible about what has happened. I go to UW Law School, I know these people personally, and I know what good people they are. It's been a tremendous blow not only to the Project, and the movement in general, UW Law School, and personally to the people who worked so hard on his behalf.

What Avery did is heinous by itself. But it's additionally so because he took the time, resources and reputation (all gratis, of course) of people who believed in him. While DNA has been exonerating other innocent people around the country, there isn't a judge in WI that will want to hear a case from the Innocence Project now. And that means innocent people sitting in prison taking up tax dollars. Also, getting Avery out meant that someone else who is innocent is still sitting in prison because the Project selected him and spent time on him over others. The Project gets thousands of letters a year from people asking for help, and can only help a handful. They research, they interview, they investigate and really check their facts before they help. He convinced the Project to give him the help, and then spit in their faces. Don't paint them with the same brush as Avery.

BTW - if you want to talk about close calls, I was supposed to meet Avery. He was going to be at an event for the Wisconsin Law Review, which I am on. Of course, he didn't make the event because he was jailed the night before.

 

[hollyjokers]

Thank you for explaining about Innocence Project & what all goes into it. I sincerely apologize for my remarks. My emotions, like everyone else's, are just running very high with everything that has come to light about this case in the past couple of weeks. It is completely mystifying how one total could have such a negative impact on so many people.

How fortunate you are not to have had the (dis)pleasure of meeting him!

 

[cheko1]

Ang,

I commend those working in the program / They got a lot of good press when SA was released. Its simply inconceivable that SA would do such a horrendous crime after getting out of prison.

You my friend be VERY careful / that was a VERY close call!!!!

 

[Sherlockmom]

>And that means innocent people sitting in prison taking up tax dollars. <


I'm sorry but I bet we can count those on one hand. There are very few people in prison who are innocent of their crimes. On the other hand many of them have had very lax, slap-on-the wrist penalties for years before they actually ended up behind bars. We saw this with Avery. He wasn't some innocent boy scout that never walked on a sidewalk crack. It's interesting to me that people put this type of effort trying to get people out of jail. Why not work on supporting victims of crime and working as hard to put these types behind bars instead?

And in the same vein, when was the last time that anyone has heard of an innocent person being executed for a crime they didn't commit? When is the last time we heard of someone who got the death sentence later to be found innocent?

It's hard enough to get the guilty behind bars and most who end up there have a long rap sheet following behind them.

Avery may or may not have been guilty of that particular rape. But he was hardly an innocent man and I think that his torturing and killing of the cat alone should have raised red flags and perhaps the innocence project would have been better served finding someone else to help more deserving.

Sherlockmom

 

[Sherlockmom]

>The Project gets thousands of letters a year from people asking for help, and can only help a handful. They research, they interview, they investigate and really check their facts before they help. He convinced the Project to give him the help, and then spit in their faces. <


You mean they missed his prior convictions? They missed the torturing and burning of the cat? They missed the running off the road of that woman and threatening her with a firearm? How did they miss that stuff? It was public record. Heck, I found that stuff out just reading news stories on the internet.

It's amazing to me that after all of that research, checking the facts (including that other members of this family have been involved in other sex crimes) they thought that Steven Avery was probably a very nice man falsely accused. Good grief! If Steven Avery fooled these people perhaps they should find another cause that doesn't have such serious consequences to work for because their investigation skills and judgement leave alot to be desired. Someone died because Steven Avery was let loose on the public. And they helped to do it.

If someone wants to be a do-gooder I can come up with alot of more deserving ways to do it. Ways that someone won't get hurt or killed if they goof up.

Sherlockmom

 

[Sherlockmom]

>Its simply inconceivable that SA would do such a horrendous crime after getting out of prison. <


Steven Avery was doing terrible things before he got into prison. It wasn't his first time in jail. Do some research on the man and his past. This was no boy scout. It is not inconceivable to me at all that things ended up the way they did. He has been working up to it for awhile and don't forget, he also was talking about doing this WHILE HE WAS STILL IN PRISON. I highly doubt that Teresa Halbach was his first rape. He was practising torture on the family cat before he hurt Teresa.

Sherlockmom

 

[BirdieBoo]

For some reason the Avery family reminds me of the Ewell family in "To Kill A Mockingbird"

 

[chicoliving]

From staff reports
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MANITOWOC — A Manitowoc County Circuit Court judge today increased the amount of cash bail for Steven Avery, who is accused of sexually assaulting and killing a 25-year-old St. John woman.

Judge Patrick Willis set $750,000 cash bail for Avery, up from $500,000 set in November. Today, Willis said the severity of the offenses, including three new charges filed March 8, warrant the additional bail.

Avery is charged with first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree sexual assault, kidnapping, mutilation of a corpse, false imprisonment, and felon in possession of a firearm. Avery faces life in prison if convicted of the homicide charge and a combined 128½ years in prison on the other charges.

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http://www.htrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060317/MAN0101/60317048
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[Sherlockmom]

(WFRV) MANITOWOC

"At another court hearing Friday, Dassey's attorney asked a judge to bar prosecutors from using the boy's statement to investigators as evidence.

Attorney Len Kachinsky didn't say in court why he thought the judge should suppress Dassey's four-hour videotaped statement. Manitowoc County Circuit Judge Jerome Fox gave the attorney until April 24 to file the needed motion and set a hearing on the issue for May 4."

Read entire article: http://wfrv.com/topstories/local_story_076074435.html

 

[strach304]

I just don't get Wisconsin's laws at all, why would they even give Avery bail?This is a disaster for the innocence project, true but how many cases do we see on a continual basis where perps are let out or not given severe sentences that allow them in society and they commit a horrible crime and then afterwards we find out the many reasons they shouldn't have been out of jail or weren't monitored by parole, etc.?

 

[Ang50]

I just don't get Wisconsin's laws at all, why would they even give Avery bail?This is a disaster for the innocence project, true but how many cases do we see on a continual basis where perps are let out or not given severe sentences that allow them in society and they commit a horrible crime and then afterwards we find out the many reasons they shouldn't have been out of jail or weren't monitored by parole, etc.?

It's in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Amendment 8 - Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Even Dahmer had bail, set at a million dollars, I think. Judges have to be really careful not to set it too high, b/c it can violate a criminal's constitutional rights.

I understand the frustration with the cases (Carlie Brucia, for example) but we have the benefit of hindsight... Judges struggle with trying to predict if this is a violent criminal or not, sex offenders have to be released after serving their sentences, or else their constitutional rights are violated (WI is going to run up against this soon - it's an ongoing problem) and we don't like to spend money on parole/probation agents - it's a low-paying, dangerous job and thankless for sure. (My good friend was one b4 law school). Look at how many neighbors/friends/family are surprised by the horrendous acts of their kin - they couldn't predict it, so how could a judge?

With Avery, I believe that he was bound to go to prison at some point anyway. But prison is a training ground for criminals, and going there for small crimes guarantees you'll learn about committing big ones. Avery had over a decade to sit and stew about how the "system" screwed him, to listen to sadists, rapists and murderers about their crimes, and fantasize about doing it himself. Over a decade to hate the woman that accused him wrongly, and then to hate all women.