Will Casey face probation?

[cityslick]

Nobody at the news networks are going to buy any talk about 'boycotts' when all they need to do is go to a victim friendly forum and see there is a 50+ page thread in 24 hours time focusing on alleged pictures of Casey Anthony and her whereabouts. All they need to do is run numbers off their own website on how many clicks a Casey Anthony story gets, I bet it's substantial.

 

[DesSands]

This is ridiculous, simply because a few well connected attorneys state that she served her probation, especially in jail is laughable.
So big deal a clerical error doesn't change the judge's orders.
First of all we all know she walked scott free which is still abominable, but putting that aside, she didn't even really serve the full amount of JP's sentence.
How can you serve one sentence for several crimes? 412 days was credited as time served + 1 YRS. PROBATION AFTER Release.
Ok fine, then where is the 1,460 days (That's 4 yrs. broken down into days JP) served for lying to LE?
Judge Perry needs to honor Judge Strickland's orders to begin with.
The reason it came up is because JS is sitting back shaking his head thinking, why is this woman NOT REPORTING to DOC? I ordered her to for one yr.
She really didn't even serve enough time for LE and I questioned that myself. You can't say time served for check fraud and then credit that time for lying to LE too.
So JP has really disappointed what I thought was a fair no nonsense judge from what I witnessed in that court rm. People who were onlookers and those excersising (SP) their first ammendent right to FREE SPEECH got more time than this poor excuse for a mother/convicted felon.
What has she learned from any of this? Same old, same old, that she can do whatever she wants, without consequences. :banghead:

 

[JSV]

This is ridiculous, simply because a few well connected attorneys state that she served her probation, especially in jail is laughable.
So big deal a clerical error doesn't change the judge's orders.
First of all we all know she walked scott free which is still abominable, but putting that aside, she didn't even really serve the full amount of JP's sentence.
How can you serve one sentence for several crimes? 412 days was credited as time served + 1 YRS. PROBATION AFTER Release.
Ok fine, then where is the 1,460 days (That's 4 yrs. broken down into days JP) served for lying to LE?
Judge Perry needs to honor Judge Strickland's orders to begin with.
The reason it came up is because JS is sitting back shaking his head thinking, why is this woman NOT REPORTING to DOC? I ordered her to for one yr.
She really didn't even serve enough time for LE and I questioned that myself. You can't say time served for check fraud and then credit that time for lying to LE too.
So JP has really disappointed what I thought was a fair no nonsense judge from what I witnessed in that court rm. People who were onlookers and those excersising (SP) their first ammendent right to FREE SPEECH got more time than this poor excuse for a mother/convicted felon.
What has she learned from any of this? Same old, same old, that she can do whatever she wants, without consequences. :banghead:

Great Post ... I agree with you 100%

 

[MissJames]

We've only heard from three jurors, to the best of my knowledge, and they may be the weakest links...I am not going to assume that all 12 used the same reasoning for their decisions...JMO

Well,if the foreman is to be believed HE convinced others ,using HIS reasoning to switch to NG. I agree they may be the weakest links (They probably are :loser,but at least 2 of them were also the biggest bullies, IMO. :maddening:

 

[MissJames]

Nobody at the news networks are going to buy any talk about 'boycotts' when all they need to do is go to a victim friendly forum and see there is a 50+ page thread in 24 hours time focusing on alleged pictures of Casey Anthony and her whereabouts. All they need to do is run numbers off their own website on how many clicks a Casey Anthony story gets, I bet it's substantial.

They can run all the numbers they want. What I've noticed is a few posters watch and report. Maybe bits of a transcript, a quote or a picture are discussed ,ad nauseum.But how many watched the actual broadcast ? How many sat through the commercials that pay for it all? Not nearly as many people as there are discussing it on the threads.
I haven't watched ABC or any of the Disney Channels since I learned they paid Casey $200,000. I haven't even watched NBC ,MSNBC (which I can't stand,anyway) or ANY of my local stations in at least 2 years.
My FIL's funeral was yesterday and there was a lot of local news discussion going on,and I realised I didn't miss it at all.I go to Wunderground.com for the weather.

 

[Thinker Belle]

JMHO but I think our system has some serious flaws in it..........of course not rewritten but it needs to be revamped in many ways.....

I agree. Why are reflection and revision a bad thing? Shouldn't we ask questions and make advancements? Isn't that how all other things are improved? By asking why and noticing the need for revisions? All other systems of life and community seem to be subject to this type of necessary evolution and reform, why should the judicial system be any different?
JMO

 

[LambChop]

They can run all the numbers they want. What I've noticed is a few posters watch and report. Maybe bits of a transcript, a quote or a picture are discussed ,ad nauseum.But how many watched the actual broadcast ? How many sat through the commercials that pay for it all? Not nearly as many people as there are discussing it on the threads.
I haven't watched ABC or any of the Disney Channels since I learned they paid Casey $200,000. I haven't even watched NBC ,MSNBC (which I can't stand,anyway) or ANY of my local stations in at least 2 years.
My FIL's funeral was yesterday and there was a lot of local news discussion going on,and I realised I didn't miss it at all.I go to Wunderground.com for the weather.

Little OT but here goes: I gave up the TV a couple of years ago. Only watch TV on vacation and just the news. I am very disenchanted with most of their coverage because when I see information on here on WS's that has been verified and backed up by documentation and then hear these talk shows get it upside down and backwards I just lost faith in the news. It's sad.

I do think, however, the judge is within his 60 days and if he was provided with misinformation while doing his calculations he is within the law to bring her back to jail and serve out the rest of her time, right? So if the judge says well why don't we handle it this way and put her on probation for a year instead of sending her back to jail. KC should be happy and the State will be happy and it will certainly avoid any future issues with inmates who feel KC was given a special sentence. jmo

 

[rossva]

Thank you, thank you. I posted something very similar to this right after she was acquitted, and the general response was that no one paid attention to how many threads about Casey Anthony there were; it just didn't count as how much interest there was in her. Media people watch the numbers here, as well as other internet sites, to guage popularity.

Nobody at the news networks are going to buy any talk about 'boycotts' when all they need to do is go to a victim friendly forum and see there is a 50+ page thread in 24 hours time focusing on alleged pictures of Casey Anthony and her whereabouts. All they need to do is run numbers off their own website on how many clicks a Casey Anthony story gets, I bet it's substantial.

 

[MissJames]

This is ridiculous, simply because a few well connected attorneys state that she served her probation, especially in jail is laughable.
So big deal a clerical error doesn't change the judge's orders.
First of all we all know she walked scott free which is still abominable, but putting that aside, she didn't even really serve the full amount of JP's sentence.
How can you serve one sentence for several crimes? 412 days was credited as time served + 1 YRS. PROBATION AFTER Release.
Ok fine, then where is the 1,460 days (That's 4 yrs. broken down into days JP) served for lying to LE?
Judge Perry needs to honor Judge Strickland's orders to begin with.
The reason it came up is because JS is sitting back shaking his head thinking, why is this woman NOT REPORTING to DOC? I ordered her to for one yr.
She really didn't even serve enough time for LE and I questioned that myself. You can't say time served for check fraud and then credit that time for lying to LE too.
So JP has really disappointed what I thought was a fair no nonsense judge from what I witnessed in that court rm. People who were onlookers and those excersising (SP) their first ammendent right to FREE SPEECH got more time than this poor excuse for a mother/convicted felon.
What has she learned from any of this? Same old, same old, that she can do whatever she wants, without consequences. :banghead:

I have nothing to base this on ,so it's pure speculation,but I can't help but feel there's a good ole boys thing going on.
JB was schooled regularly by HHJP,but CM just got chuckles from HH. I don't even think it's necessarily a conscious thing,perhaps subconsciously HH leans toward the defense. He also included JA in JB's admonishmonts when I felt JA had every right to be complaining.
That incident when JA started to speak ,then said "I'll wait till counsel has finished texting" was not a cheap shot,IMO. It was factual.JB was NOT paying attention to a very important argument. I really did not understand why HH got so nasty with JA. Hindsight being 20/20 , I now have my suspicions.
We were all cheering that the DT got "STUCK" with a much tougher judge than Stan Strickland,but now I wonder if CM had this in his pocket all along :waitasec:

 

[rossva]

Here's a question for everyone: Had Casey Anthony been found "not guilty" on the four lying charges, would you still be clamoring for her to go back and re-serve probation on her felony counts?

 

[Thinker Belle]

The Orlando Sentinel has posted a Q&A article regarding the FCA probation issue:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...hony-probation-qanda-20110804,0,5664661.story

 

[LambChop]

Here's a question for everyone: Had Casey Anthony been found "not guilty" on the four lying charges, would you still be clamoring for her to go back and re-serve probation on her felony counts?

I don't think anyone is trying to punish KC. I believe the issue right now is did she serve enough time and was HHJP mislead by defense not telling the judge that they believed she had served her probation while in jail. This would have been a determining factor in HHJP's calculations on how much jail time KC still had to serve. Had KC gotten over the 60 day limit she would have been free and clear, right? Now immates will be complaining that KC received special treatment for the crimes she committed while they are not getting the same considerations. As it is she spent 3 years in jail, minus when she was out on bail, on 7 felony charges and 4 charges of lying to LE with a sentence of the maximum allowed, plus 1 year's probation. And she is out.

I think probation will be good for her. It provides some structure, not much, but there are rules to follow.....pretty much like you would expect from a responsible parent. lol I just think it would be a good thing for her. And, you know what, Orlando would just have to get use to her. jmo

 

[Thinker Belle]

@MarkNeJame Do you think there will be any chance of revision of the min/max codes any time soon?

@MarkNeJame I think there needs to be more consistency between the states penal codes. Do you believe in mandatory sentences?

MarkNeJame Mark NeJame
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@Jgrandstrand Only if it makes economic sense. The word "rehabilitation" doesn't even exist as a stated goal in Florida's penal code anymore

@Jgrandstrand In some cases but I've seen too much unfairness. Ppl in prison for drug addictions, mandatory min. sentences, charge stacking

 

[rossva]

But, you did not answer the question.

I don't think anyone is trying to punish KC. I believe the issue right now is did she serve enough time and was HHJP mislead by defense not telling the judge that they believed she had served her probation while in jail. This would have been a determining factor in HHJP's calculations on how much jail time KC still had to serve. Had KC gotten over the 60 day limit she would have been free and clear, right? Now immates will be complaining that KC received special treatment for the crimes she committed while they are not getting the same considerations. As it is she spent 3 years in jail, minus when she was out on bail, on 7 felony charges and 4 charges of lying to LE with a sentence of the maximum allowed, plus 1 year's probation. And she is out.

I think probation will be good for her. It provides some structure, not much, but there are rules to follow.....pretty much like you would expect from a responsible parent. lol I just think it would be a good thing for her. And, you know what, Orlando would just have to get use to her. jmo

 

[DesSands]

I have nothing to base this on ,so it's pure speculation,but I can't help but feel there's a good ole boys thing going on.
JB was schooled regularly by HHJP,but CM just got chuckles from HH. I don't even think it's necessarily a conscious thing,perhaps subconsciously HH leans toward the defense. He also included JA in JB's admonishmonts when I felt JA had every right to be complaining.
That incident when JA started to speak ,then said "I'll wait till counsel has finished texting" was not a cheap shot,IMO. It was factual.JB was NOT paying attention to a very important argument. I really did not understand why HH got so nasty with JA. Hindsight being 20/20 , I now have my suspicions.
We were all cheering that the DT got "STUCK" with a much tougher judge than Stan Strickland,but now I wonder if CM had this in his pocket all along :waitasec:

That's exactly how I felt when all was said and done. my husband kept saying they all look very happy, KC and DT. I would be irritated when he would say that. But it was apparent after the fact. JA was correct in calling JP's attention to what JB was doing when he was texting. It was not proper court rm. decorum at all and his priorities were to be with what was going on in the courtrm. and not who was texting him. He should have been called on the carpet for that one. I'm still waiting for HHJP's sanctions re:JB. Besides he's getting all of the credit for getting her off, Uh perhaps LKB should take some of that credit. Note he would look down many times before arguing a point, or running over to CM with questions and you saw it all. Ya know what I'm saying.
Something is not right about this whole trial, it was a total sham and I don't say that with sour grapes.
Last but not least, this was NOT a DEATH QUALIFIED JURY. Several potential jurors said they didn't believe in the death penalty and they were seated despite that.
Not that I think she should have gotten the DP, because I myself don't personally believe any of us has the right to kill another.
But if you're on a death penalty case, ya better be believin in it or be disqualified.
And 12 jurors + an alternate say they didn't think GA was telling the truth. Laughable, the one who was lying through her teeth walks free, well actually we have two very astutue liars, mom and daughter. So because we don't like GA, we're going to set the lil felon free.
"We felt sick letting her go," well your gut is saying she did it. Juror #3 states that almost flippantly with a smirk.
They marched in unison into the juror's del rm. with one goal in mind. They deliberately left their note books on ALL of their chairs in DEFIANT SOLIDARITY?? :banghead:
The only consolation here is justice will be served in some way and it won't be pretty. Karma can be as cruel if not crueler than the original infarction.

 

[LambChop]

But, you did not answer the question.

I'd answer but it would be like you asking if she was not found guilty of the fraud charges. The answer is kind of obvious. jmo

 

[cityslick]

I don't think anyone is trying to punish KC. I believe the issue right now is did she serve enough time and was HHJP mislead by defense not telling the judge that they believed she had served her probation while in jail. This would have been a determining factor in HHJP's calculations on how much jail time KC still had to serve. Had KC gotten over the 60 day limit she would have been free and clear, right? Now immates will be complaining that KC received special treatment for the crimes she committed while they are not getting the same considerations. As it is she spent 3 years in jail, minus when she was out on bail, on 7 felony charges and 4 charges of lying to LE with a sentence of the maximum allowed, plus 1 year's probation. And she is out.

I think probation will be good for her. It provides some structure, not much, but there are rules to follow.....pretty much like you would expect from a responsible parent. lol I just think it would be a good thing for her. And, you know what, Orlando would just have to get use to her. jmo

I believe probation would be good for her too, but if the system says she has already served that probation (whether it was correct or not) than that's on the people running the system, not Casey Anthony. I'd feel that way no matter who it was, not just her. If the people running the place produced a piece of paper saying she served her probation, you can go on your way, etc, etc, then so be it. They are the ones that didn't read the order correctly. But you can't go back and say you want a do-over now.

 

[DesSands]

I don't think anyone is trying to punish KC. I believe the issue right now is did she serve enough time and was HHJP mislead by defense not telling the judge that they believed she had served her probation while in jail. This would have been a determining factor in HHJP's calculations on how much jail time KC still had to serve. Had KC gotten over the 60 day limit she would have been free and clear, right? Now immates will be complaining that KC received special treatment for the crimes she committed while they are not getting the same considerations. As it is she spent 3 years in jail, minus when she was out on bail, on 7 felony charges and 4 charges of lying to LE with a sentence of the maximum allowed, plus 1 year's probation. And she is out.

I think probation will be good for her. It provides some structure, not much, but there are rules to follow.....pretty much like you would expect from a responsible parent. lol I just think it would be a good thing for her. And, you know what, Orlando would just have to get use to her. jmo

Not to mention that it was HER responsibility to report, not slip away and hope it's not noticed. Being responsible is an importsnt part of probation. Not to to mislead as she and her DT have done constantly. :loser:

 

[tsitra01]

I have nothing to base this on ,so it's pure speculation,but I can't help but feel there's a good ole boys thing going on.
JB was schooled regularly by HHJP,but CM just got chuckles from HH. I don't even think it's necessarily a conscious thing,perhaps subconsciously HH leans toward the defense. He also included JA in JB's admonishmonts when I felt JA had every right to be complaining.
That incident when JA started to speak ,then said "I'll wait till counsel has finished texting" was not a cheap shot,IMO. It was factual.JB was NOT paying attention to a very important argument. I really did not understand why HH got so nasty with JA. Hindsight being 20/20 , I now have my suspicions.
We were all cheering that the DT got "STUCK" with a much tougher judge than Stan Strickland,but now I wonder if CM had this in his pocket all along :waitasec:

ITA, I was upset to hear JP admonish JA every time JB or CM messed up. He never failed to include the Prosecution when schooling JB. Beter part of the time ,it was uncalled for.

 

[LambChop]

Not to mention that it was HER responsibility to report, not slip away and hope it's not noticed. Being responsible is an importsnt part of probation. Not to to mislead as she and her DT have done constantly. :loser:

And did she meet the requirements of the probation or did they just abandon it. Did she pay the $20 per month charge (she had money in her commissary account to do so)? Did she request to meet with her probation officer once a month or was that left to slip? So it really could go either way depending on how the judge wants to look at it. Just don't know if you are suppose to serve probation while you are getting credit for service time for another separate crime. jmo