Willow and Bristol Palin post slurs and profanity on FB

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  • #181
It is ridiculous to me that this is even newsworthy.
 
  • #182
Somehow this became all about a 16 year old who should have known better IMO, even if for no other reason than she is in the public eye-what about the adult in this equation, Bristol?

Can we at least accord her some maturity given that she is a mother and has put herself out there into the world not simply because of her mother but on her own...multiple media interviews in People, US Magazine, DWTS etc.

So, Bristol uses homophobic slurs but she is going to have a much harder time defending her use unless someone comes up with a reason why HER brain should not be considered mature.

If it were Lindsey Lohan, we would be talking about this. If it were Sean Penn, we would be talking about this. We certainly could comfortably discuss Miley Cyrus who has been in the public eye since birth and likes the controversy she causes....I think that the "rules" regarding minors do not necessarily apply here the same as they would some joe off the street. JMVHO. Rules are fluid for a reason on this board. Being inflexible would not work here. Again JMVHO.

Sarah Palin put her girls out into the world to be scrutinized by the media. As did John and Kate. So here we are discussing them when they behave badly.

And they behaved badly-we all seem to agree on that one. :)
 
  • #183
Somehow this became all about a 16 year old who should have known better IMO, even if for no other reason than she is in the public eye-what about the adult in this equation, Bristol?

Can we at least accord her some maturity given that she is a mother and has put herself out there into the world not simply because of her mother but on her own...multiple media interviews in People, US Magazine, DWTS etc.

So, Bristol uses homophobic slurs but she is going to have a much harder time defending her use unless someone comes up with a reason why HER brain should not be considered mature.

If it were Lindsey Lohan, we would be talking about this. If it were Sean Penn, we would be talking about this. We certainly could comfortably discuss Miley Cyrus who has been in the public eye since birth and likes the controversy she causes....I think that the "rules" regarding minors do not necessarily apply here the same as they would some joe off the street. JMVHO. Rules are fluid for a reason on this board. Being inflexible would not work here. Again JMVHO.

Sarah Palin put her girls out into the world to be scrutinized by the media. As did John and Kate. So here we are discussing them when they behave badly.

And they behaved badly-we all seem to agree on that one. :)


Lindsey Lohan, Sean Penn, and Miley Cyrus are stars. They chose that life for themselves. Bristol has put herself out there and is fair game IMO.
But, WP is not a star. She is the teenage daughter of a political figure. If this were a conversation about "Sarah Palin's Alaska" and we were discussing WP's attitude on the show or whatever, to me, that would be different. Because her mother allows her to be on the show. So, she must know that people are going to talk about it (the show).
But, this was a conversation on FB. It has nothing to do with Sarah or the show. It was a minor (who is not a star) talking to another minor. The guys name was blacked out. Why? Because he is a minor????
 
  • #184
Sarah Palin put her girls out into the world to be scrutinized by the media. As did John and Kate. So here we are discussing them when they behave badly.

And they behaved badly-we all seem to agree on that one. :)

Exactly.

SP put her kids out into the public spotlight. If she didn't want them scrutinized, she shouldn't have done that.

Were I ever to run for public office, my family would be nowhere to be seen. Ever. Not because I am embarrassed for them to be seen in public. In fact, they are fantastic. But because I would never use them as props for me running for office. If I did that, they would be fair game, just as SP's kids are.

And, FWIW, if my kids make a mistake in public--whether it's on FB or mouthing off in the gorcery store--they should fully expect to be corrected in public, on the spot.
 
  • #185
By the whole country?
That's a bit much for anybody to handle.
 
  • #186
Miley Cyrus is 17, right? She made her choices. Willow is 16-she has made her choices right out in public for the world to see. Lindsey Lohan was a child in the public eye long before she was an adult in the public eye. Ditto John and Kate's brood, 3 of whom were just expelled from their school. Bristol Palin's apology was quite humerous; she shamelessly included a plug for DWTS?

Tsk Tsk. People have always looked to the parenting when high profile kids make bad choices. This is no exception. And so it goes.
 
  • #187
The fact that 6 year olds' school troubles are exploited kinda makes my point.

Very shameful. When is enough enough?
 
  • #188
The family is not exactly media-shy. I'm revolted by all of them, but that's just me.
 
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  • #190
National Enquirer???? Really????
Was the baby daddy an alien? A green one?
 
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And lets not forget, Elvis lives in my basement. Shhh don't tell anybody. I want to sell the story to the enquirer Monday.
 
  • #193
16 is old enough to take responsibility for your actions...
Or at least to be held responsible...we see the courts doing it more and more as teens make the news in horrible ways more and more often.
If she singled out a person and either outed him or called him names, that is cyber bullying, IMO.
 
  • #194
16 is old enough to take responsibility for your actions...
Or at least to be held responsible...we see the courts doing it more and more as teens make the news in horrible ways more and more often.
If she singled out a person and either outed him or called him names, that is cyber bullying, IMO.

Did you read it? She was not cyber bullying!
It was a FB war between several people who were trading insults back and forth. The guy she said "you're so gay, I don't even know you" to had already called Bristol fat and joked about her teen preg. Also said he loved the show "nailin Palin".
The N word was thrown around (not by the Palins) and a whole lot of other stuff.

If you have not read it, you should in order to understand what went on. She didn't out him.

I think you can find the screen shots at www.tmz.com
 
  • #195
No I did not read it, that is why I wrote "if she singled someone out, etc..."

My only point is 16 is old enough to drive a car, it is old enough to be charged with crimes, etc...so it is old enough, if you put yourself out there, to deal with reprecussions, that's all.
 
  • #196
Okay, I am in agreement with Kimberly on this issue. WP is a minor and I do not believe is old enough to "choose" to be a public figure. Her family's various claims to fame do that.

I can debate this if it is not all about going after WP but rather about bad behavior of a sixteen year old who, IMO, like many sixteeen year olds, should know better.

I am not going to attack this young lady but will criticise the behavior IFKWIM.

and this is completely not snark so please do not take it as such, but - is the National Enquirer considered MSM source? I have never seen it linked and quoted here. tia
 
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