Witness Laura Buchanan Backs Out

[sumbunny]

I finished reviewing the first doc linked. The one with JB's letters "requesting" Conway do his TES dirty work for him ... and TAMPERING listed as the type case !

Wow. This doc dump has tied a whole bunch of the loose ends together for me. I only have about 100 new questions bouncing around in my brain now.

care to enlighten us on the loose ends and 100 new questions?
enquiring minds want to know! ~smiles~

 

[ThinkTank]

Laura Buchanan
Deposition transcript part 2
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26649971/detail.html

page 14 - Laura tells LDB that it is her handwriting on this Form.
Laura wrote - in the middle of this form - "....me and a searcher Ann Whitley found a cross hanging in a tree...."...

Ann Pham says that Laura is the only one who knew her maiden name of "Whitley" from emails that Ann and Laura had exchanged. Laura says the handwriting is hers, where Laura writes Anne's name as me and a searcher "Ann Whitley" (instead of "Pham").

Laura tried to say that Anne had told her the maiden name during the search at Blanchard, but Anne said she never told anyone her maiden name because she was afraid of identity theft. Anne said the only way Laura knew Anne's maiden name of "Whitley" was through the emails they had exchanged well AFTER the search at Blanchard on Sept 3rd.

Laura confirms that SHE wrote the searcher's names on this form.
Laura not only admits that she wrote Anne's maiden name in the name list on top of the form, Laura also admits that she wrote Anne's maiden name in the narrative in the "Describe Search Efforts" box. Laura told LDBurdick that is her handwriting.
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When Laura is talking to Kasper ... Laura uses the name "D(a)n" instead of "D(o)n" Mitchell. Laura, without realizing it, uses the incorrect name, just like Laura wrote the incorrect name on the questioned TES form. Laura admits she wrote the name "D(a)n" on the form.

Kasper Jordan makes controlled call to Laura Buchanan:
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26650607/detail.html
Nov 3, 2010

pg 20 - LB - I didn't search the exact area because I don't know where she was.
pg 24 - I wrote everybody's name. There's like a .. a Dan Mitchell ...
pg 28 - You remember I got out the next day and I had those damn sheets still in my, my truck? Well, I didn't find those ing search sheets until three weeks... like three weeks. Three hours later. Well I.. when, when we went back and we searched the next day. I wrote the same...I wrote notes on the next.. from the next day on that same sheet. And that's why they're thinking that it's, that it's you know like *ed up. Like falsified. Like somehow we all went on the ... or we all didn't go Suburban Drive or whatever. ... It was just a mistake
pg 29 - KJ - when did you turn that ... that sheet over in though? When did you turn... that sheet in the one that you had in the car?
I don't remember what the lady's name was. I don't remember if turned it in there at the desk or if I handed it off to another searcher. I don't...

 

[Dignity4Victims]

I finished reviewing the first doc linked. The one with JB's letters "requesting" Conway do his TES dirty work for him ... and TAMPERING listed as the type case !

Wow. This doc dump has tied a whole bunch of the loose ends together for me. I only have about 100 new questions bouncing around in my brain now.

Me too, plus I've added about 3 additional names to the list for the State to bring the hammer down on at a later, more 'convenient' time.

This case won't end with the guilty verdict for Casey, her guilty verdict will only propel the beginning of the really good parts of true and complete justice.

 

[ThinkTank]

This is the TES form that has the real names on it.

Laura B., and Anne Pham (not Whitley), and "D(o)n" (not Dan).
This form does NOT have the names of Joe J or Kasper J on it (like the questioned form). This form says nothing about Suburban Dr. searching.
This form has Sept 3rd on it, just like the questioned form, but different group of names.

The names of Anne Pham and Don Mitchell appear to have been written by different hands, and not written by Laura B. On the questioned form, Laura B. said she wrote all the names and Anne said her name looked like it was written by Laura B (not by Anne).

 

[CarolinaMoon]

The page that has the handwritten Case # of 10-86122 - is from the law office of Laura's attorney ... is it possible that office made a mistake when writing the case number? Is the Case # 10-86122 listed anywhere else, other than from the law office of Ray Brown?

I wonder if that different case number could be the number of a Witness Tampering case against Laura Buchanan. It seems, from one of the new docs listed tonight that Brad Conway was interviewed about this case as well.

The only reason I think this is possible is that the OCSO did open an investigation into her actions and they are having Kasper Jordan and Anne Pham make "controlled" calls to her. They are obviously trying to get her trying to catch her trying to get witnesses to agree with her story.

Or, this could be a witness tampering case against the PI's and Laura as a party to it.

Whoever is involved in this case, it will have a terrific impact on the trial!

 

[RR0004]

Ok...so can someone sum up what's going on here?

ETA: Why would someone knowingly doctor a form unless they expected it to be used for a very good purpose...like helping the defense? LB was clearly an A admirer.

 

[ThinkTank]

Why would OSCO pick up this fax from Cheney Mason? :waitasec:

Page 27: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/courtmotionsTQS.pdf

The notes at the bottom say "Originally faxed forms sent from Attorney Ray Brown on Aug 16, 2010".

Laura's deposition on August 16, 2010 had to be halted while the State waited for the attorney to send these documents to them. Do you suppose the attorney also faxed them to Cheney Mason at the same time? Did the OCSO want to compare the fax cover sheet and docs to see if there was any difference in what CM got, from what LDB got?

 

[ThinkTank]

Gosh - what a great read! That Laura, what a hoot! Foul mouthed little gal, that's for sure.

In this transcript, she tells a fellow searcher she is in Florida to attend a Law Enforcement seminar. And her phone rings a lot. And she tells the others in her car that "it's her boyfriend" calling her all the time.
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...scriptsTQS.pdf

I would think there (or is it "they're or is it "their"? I'll have to ask Laura!) may be some tense moments in the house once Mr. B has had a chance to read these transcripts.

Could you repost that link please. I cannot open it.
Do you have page number where this comment can be found?
TIA

 

[CarolinaMoon]

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/transcriptsTQS.pdf

There are more transcripts of other TES searchers here. There is also another controlled call from Kasper to Laura, dated September 20, 2010. It's his first call to her in two years. He is trying to find out about who has or had the original of the apparently bogus form. It helps explain information in the other call.

It starts on page 21

 

[ThinkTank]

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...scriptsTQS.pdf

There are more transcripts of other TES searchers here. There is also another controlled call from Kasper to Laura, dated September 20, 2010. It's his first call to her in two years. He is trying to find out about who has or had the original of the apparently bogus form. It helps explain information in the other call.

It starts on page 21

I cannot open this link?
could you post it in pieces, that I can put back together in my browser?

 

[strach304]

Ok...so can someone sum up what's going on here?

ETA: Why would someone knowingly doctor a form unless they expected it to be used for a very good purpose...like helping the defense? LB was clearly an A admirer.

What I am not clear on is in order for her to deliberately falsify the document then she must have done it after Caylee was found, right? Otherwise how would she know to write Suburban Drive as one of the locations searched and that place turn out to be where Caylee was indeed found.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

That's a bad link. Go back a few pages in the threads, there's a good link posted.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I cannot open this link?
could you post it in pieces, that I can put back together in my browser?

I fixed it in the article and here it is again!

CFNEWS13's links are so very fragile and they often go "poof" after a short period of time!

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/transcriptsTQS.pdf

 

[beach]

care to enlighten us on the loose ends and 100 new questions?
enquiring minds want to know! ~smiles~

It is so jumbled. I'm not sure I will make any sense. I'll throw a few examples out that come off the top of my head....

It fills in a lot of the blanks re. the timing of Conway's resignation as CA & GA's atty & probable reasons for doing so. JB's requests of Conway were....slimy? unethical? illegal? I am thinking CA pressured BC to "cooperate" with JB.

...yet, the timing of BC's resignation in re. LB's first depo leaves me with more questions.... Where does that fit into the picture?

LE's investigation into TAMPERING - I am thrilled and relieved to have proof that ANY investigation into ANY of these [unusual people] is actually happening!!! But that begs the questions - what kind of "tampering"? Evidence? Witness? And most curious - exactly WHO is being investigated? It could one or more of several of these characters, from what I can tell.

Any questions or concerns I ever had about LB have been fully laid to rest after reading these docs...

These docs make it even clearer to me how focused and intent Baez is (was?) re. TES. He was on a mission like no other....betting it ALL...that the TES docs/searchers/investigations were gonna save the day.

This doc dump had several hidden gems that should give us plenty to "chew on" for a while.

 

[faefrost]

It is so jumbled. I'm not sure I will make any sense. I'll throw a few examples out that come off the top of my head....

It fills in a lot of the blanks re. the timing of Conway's resignation as CA & GA's atty & probable reasons for doing so. JB's requests of Conway were, at best, slimy and at worst, unethical. I am thinking CA pressured BC to "cooperate" with JB. Yet, the timing of BC's resignation in re. LB's first depo leaves me with more questions.... Where does that fit into the picture?

LE's investigation into TAMPERING - I am thrilled and relieved to have proof that ANY investigation into ANY of these [unusual people] is actually happening!!! But that begs the questions - what kind of "tampering"? Evidence? Witness? And most curious - exactly WHO is being investigated? It could one or more of several of these characters, from what I can tell.

Any questions or concerns I ever had about LB have been fully laid to rest after reading these docs...

These docs make it even clearer to me how focused and intent Baez is (was?) re. TES. He was on a mission like no other....betting it ALL...that the TES docs/searchers/investigations were gonna save the day.

This doc dump had several hidden gems that should give us plenty to "chew on" for a while.

That's what I keep coming back to in my mind. If these docs are about an investigation of witness or evidence tampering by LB, then how or why is Brad Conway involved? Why would LE be looking towards him for information regarding this. He is not a party to either TES, the actual KC case nor any of the searchers or investigators.

BUT, If LE is casting a broader tampering net. If they do not believe that the tampering originated as an issolated incident performed by a lone loony (LB) but rather are suspecting a repeated patern of tampering or questionable behavior, than how would that look. The only real reason I can see them digging for info from BC, and the only real reason that I can see BC bailing from the A's the way that he did, was he was finding himself in the middle of something unethical. Note he was not returning JB's letters. Something that was being asked of him made him opt to not respond. I really think that LE is truly looking at Mr. Baez in this, with a dash of Mason thrown in.

I mean yeah we can speculate that maybe LE learned something from LB that pointed to CA. But really what could that possibly be? We know CA didn't fill out the form. And CA is not a direct party to the case. She is under no ethical restrictions. All she needs to say is, "yes I met and talked to LB before she was added to anyones witness lists. I discussed my daughters case with her, and told her my opinions and thoughts on it all". Unless she as a private citizen offered to pay LB for testimony or threatened or blackmailed her, there simply is no case to be made against CA in this one.

The tone of those forms and the highlighted defense filings really make me think that LE at the very least have been taking a very deep look at some of JB's out of court antics. We keep saying that JB does not seem to know or care what the typical boundaries of professional conduct, behavior and performance are for a lawyer before the court. He seems to make up and follow his own rules (much like his client). We have witnessed him do and say things that bring utter shock to our legal professionals. Why would we at this point assume that he is not playing as fast and loose with those same rules outside the courtroom? I'm betting that LE may have had some interesting conversations with DC and with Mort. But we will not be seeing any documents of that as they are separate investigations unrelated to Caylee Anthony, and are related to criminal investigations in which charges have not yet been filed.

(for our legal types, If they did have an active investigation of JB or CM or a defense principle, at what point would they have to inform the judge? And when informing him woul dit have to take the form of a public filing? Or because of its nature is it something that could go in in a form that would not be recognized or released?)

 

[ThinkTank]

I think we might understand more once we are able to read the FULL Brad Conway transcript of Oct 3, 2010 (which MuzikMan will try to post for us).

-More interviews
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26651646/detail.html
[error: only the first and last pages of transcripts]

 

[beach]

That's what I keep coming back to in my mind. If these docs are about an investigation of witness or evidence tampering by LB, then how or why is Brad Conway involved? Why would LE be looking towards him for information regarding this. He is not a party to either TES, the actual KC case nor any of the searchers or investigators.

BUT, If LE is casting a broader tampering net. If they do not believe that the tampering originated as an issolated incident performed by a lone loony (LB) but rather are suspecting a repeated patern of tampering or questionable behavior, than how would that look. The only real reason I can see them digging for info from BC, and the only real reason that I can see BC bailing from the A's the way that he did, was he was finding himself in the middle of something unethical. Note he was not returning JB's letters. Something that was being asked of him made him opt to not respond. I really think that LE is truly looking at Mr. Baez in this, with a dash of Mason thrown in.

I mean yeah we can speculate that maybe LE learned something from LB that pointed to CA. But really what could that possibly be? We know CA didn't fill out the form. And CA is not a direct party to the case. She is under no ethical restrictions. All she needs to say is, "yes I met and talked to LB before she was added to anyones witness lists. I discussed my daughters case with her, and told her my opinions and thoughts on it all". Unless she as a private citizen offered to pay LB for testimony or threatened or blackmailed her, there simply is no case to be made against CA in this one.

The tone of those forms and the highlighted defense filings really make me think that LE at the very least have been taking a very deep look at some of JB's out of court antics. We keep saying that JB does not seem to know or care what the typical boundaries of professional conduct, behavior and performance are for a lawyer before the court. He seems to make up and follow his own rules (much like his client). We have witnessed him do and say things that bring utter shock to our legal professionals. Why would we at this point assume that he is not playing as fast and loose with those same rules outside the courtroom? I'm betting that LE may have had some interesting conversations with DC and with Mort. But we will not be seeing any documents of that as they are separate investigations unrelated to Caylee Anthony, and are related to criminal investigations in which charges have not yet been filed.

(for our legal types, If they did have an active investigation of JB or CM or a defense principle, at what point would they have to inform the judge? And when informing him woul dit have to take the form of a public filing? Or because of its nature is it something that could go in in a form that would not be recognized or released?)

All BBM

1. Those are THE questions... imo.

2. See #1. :innocent:

3. I agree re. CA. I don't think it is her...

4. I think he is probably worse outside of the courtroom. All I have to recall is the carefully crafted "script" used to intentionally mislead the TES searchers when the defense called during their <gag> "investigation".


Do we know WHO highlighted the pleading? (I was speed reading, so maybe I missed that.)

I can't speak to Mort..... I don't know too much about him, but probably worth considering. I think pretty much the same about all the defense PIs.


Sorry, I'm no help with your legal questions. I don't have a clue.

 

[nums24]

I think we might understand more once we are able to read the FULL Brad Conway transcript of Oct 3, 2010 (which MuzikMan will try to post for us).

-More interviews
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26651646/detail.html
[error: only the first and last pages of transcripts]

I don't think it's an error, I believe omitted on purpose. Not just his, all but the 2 Hoffon guys, were not included, only had first and last pages.

Page 39 in link is Conway Transcript page 1, discovery page 24321

Page 40 is Conway Transcript page 35, discovery page 24322

I don't believe Muzikman will have access to this depo, it's not part of this case.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

The page that has the handwritten Case # of 10-86122 - is from the law office of Laura's attorney ... is it possible that office made a mistake when writing the case number? Is the Case # 10-86122 listed anywhere else, other than from the law office of Ray Brown?

All of this Laura Buchanan nonsense is keeping me awake! My head is spinning like the little girl in "The Exhorcist". :dervish::dervish:

OK, I went back to Yuri Melich's supplemental report. Laura Buchanan's personal case number is

Case # 10-086155 Type of Case : Tampering. It's on page 8 at the end of his report.

So, can we take a guess as to who else is being investigated for witness tampering?:banghead:

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/OCSOsupplementalreport.pdf

 

[nums24]

The notes at the bottom say "Originally faxed forms sent from Attorney Ray Brown on Aug 16, 2010".

Laura's deposition on August 16, 2010 had to be halted while the State waited for the attorney to send these documents to them. Do you suppose the attorney also faxed them to Cheney Mason at the same time? Did the OCSO want to compare the fax cover sheet and docs to see if there was any difference in what CM got, from what LDB got?

You're right, they were all present for the deposition. The fax number it was sent to belongs to the 9th Court Admin.