Woman Gives Birth To Octuplets In California

[PattyCake]

Wacko Woman who makes Britney Spears look like the mother of the year. I'm waiting for CPS or DSS whatever it is to finally just take these kids and be done with it. Then Nadya will have no way to earn any money as a media wh*re. I'm sick of her but scared to death for these children.

 

[Gracenote]

*Phew*... I would not insult someone intentionally (other than Octomom?) This story has totally brought out the hypocrite in me!

jandkmom, I totally can't believe you saw Shawn Cassidy in concert. The closest I got was being a member of The Hardy Boys Fan Club. (Did you love Leif Garrett too?)

Holy Cow... how did you all let me get so O/T?????

I think it might be Patty Cakes fault?

I just drove by, but had to stop when I saw the name Leif Garrett. I thought he was soooooooo cute. Too bad he ended up a heroin addict. Hopefully he is over all that but I haven't looked him up in a while.

 

[Elphaba]

Here we go again. Her new publicist has quit.

"Octo Mom Nadya Suleman is without a publicist -- again.
Victor Munoz tells Usmagazine.com that he quit as Suleman's rep Friday night.
"It just got to be too much," he says. "It's pretty much a free for all over there right now. They are freaking out right now.
"Not to sound arrogant, but those people depended on me for everything," he continues. "You have no idea what I’ve had to do for these people.
"Nadya got real greedy. This woman is nuts," he adds. "This I can say: what ultimately destroyed the business arrangement was personal reasons."
Munoz -- who plans to meet with his lawyers Monday to go over the terms of his contract and confidentiality clause -- did not go into further detail.

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/octo-mom-second-publicist-quits-200973

I just read about this... I hope this person files a complaint with Child Services if the person has direct knowledge of her inability as a parent. The greed issue is not surprising...

 

[Gracenote]

Wacko Woman who makes Britney Spears look like the mother of the year. I'm waiting for CPS or DSS whatever it is to finally just take these kids and be done with it. Then Nadya will have no way to earn any money as a media wh*re. I'm sick of her but scared to death for these children.

Hmmm, do you think Kevin Federline might have room for 14 more kids? I realize he is not good husband material, but it seems like he is a decent dad, (and a prolific one ) especially if we can get him some support payments for all the little Sulemans.

 

[azwriter]

I saw Shawn Cassidy in concert...I was a big Hardy Boy fan...yes, I admit it.

Shawn Cassidy? Hell I'm old enough to remember being crazy about Hop-Along Cassidy!

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Here we go again. Her new publicist has quit.

"Octo Mom Nadya Suleman is without a publicist -- again.
Victor Munoz tells Usmagazine.com that he quit as Suleman's rep Friday night.
"It just got to be too much," he says. "It's pretty much a free for all over there right now. They are freaking out right now.
"Not to sound arrogant, but those people depended on me for everything," he continues. "You have no idea what I’ve had to do for these people.
"Nadya got real greedy. This woman is nuts," he adds. "This I can say: what ultimately destroyed the business arrangement was personal reasons."
Munoz -- who plans to meet with his lawyers Monday to go over the terms of his contract and confidentiality clause -- did not go into further detail.

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/octo-mom-second-publicist-quits-200973

~bolded by always~

How many peeps think she asked him to be the next sperm donor???

 

[azwriter]

So, another publist or agent bites the dust. The latest National Enquirer reports her mother has also moved out of the house. Next thing we know, some of those original six children will be packed and ready to leave too.
Greedy is an acurate way to describe Octomom.
I can see where having the additional 8 infants was a way she was sure to be guarantee donations from the public. Free home, free money, free baby items, everything others gathered when they had mulitples. With that I think she was also after the fame she craves as a pseudo-Joline.
What a worthless reason to have children.
But, it didn't work for her and it won't because the American public is not that stupid. We know a freeloader when we see one.
She is a PR agent's worse nightmare. You can't sell this pig even with the best lipstick. And, be assured she isn't about to change her ways. No one is going to want to represent her. And in the end, it's the children who will suffer. She truly is a child abuser. jmo

 

[Logger]

So, another publist or agent bites the dust. The latest National Enquirer reports her mother has also moved out of the house. Next thing we know, some of those original six children will be packed and ready to leave too.
Greedy is an acurate way to describe Octomom.
I can see where having the additional 8 infants was a way she was sure to be guarantee donations from the public. Free home, free money, free baby items, everything others gathered when they had mulitples. With that I think she was also after the fame she craves as a pseudo-Joline.
What a worthless reason to have children.
But, it didn't work for her and it won't because the American public is not that stupid. We know a freeloader when we see one.
She is a PR agent's worse nightmare. You can't sell this pig even with the best lipstick. And, be assured she isn't about to change her ways. No one is going to want to represent her. And in the end, it's the children who will suffer. She truly is a child abuser. jmo

There are many sad aspects to this situation. One of the sadder ones is if she had had one or two babies this would have never come to the media's attention. How many other NS types are out there just having kids so other people can take care of them and take care of her? YES, in the end, it's the children who will suffer.

 

[azwriter]

There are many sad aspects to this situation. On of the sadder ones is if she had had one or two babies this would have never come to the media's attention. How many other NS types are out there just having kids so other people can take care of them and take care of her? YES, in the end, it's the children who will suffer.

oooh, logger, what a thought. But you're right, there are probably many like NS. And, maybe her children are lucky she has floated to the top so that she can be stopped. And something good can happen to all the children she's brought into the world. I'm still of the mind CPS should step in and investigate her family life and the situation the 8 infants may be entering when they leave the hospital. jmo

 

[Kat]

I have a very unpopular opinion but I will share it anyway. I don't want to see these 8 children go home with her. I don't think that she is capable mentally, physically or emotionally to raise another 8 children much less 14 children.

I would like to see these children adopted and placed in homes where they will be loved and cherished for who they are, not what they represent and not for what void they can fill in their Mother's character.

In my mind, it would be impossible to place all 8 with one family. However, there are open adoptions all the time and I would think that an open adoption where the families of each of the children were open with each other and shared time together. Thereby allowing these children to not only survive but thrive and have their siblings in their life too.

The major problem with the suggestion that I outlined above is that we don't have just 8 children ---there are 6 older that also need attention and care. Those 6 children would suffer too if their siblings were removed.

This woman has done a heinous thing. 14 children's lives have been changed forever by her selfishness and now she is being called out as greedy.

It makes my heart heavy for all 14.

 

[PattyCake]

I have a very unpopular opinion but I will share it anyway. I don't want to see these 8 children go home with her. I don't think that she is capable mentally, physically or emotionally to raise another 8 children much less 14 children.

I would like to see these children adopted and placed in homes where they will be loved and cherished for who they are, not what they represent and not for what void they can fill in their Mother's character.

In my mind, it would be impossible to place all 8 with one family. However, there are open adoptions all the time and I would think that an open adoption where the families of each of the children were open with each other and shared time together. Thereby allowing these children to not only survive but thrive and have their siblings in their life too.

The major problem with the suggestion that I outlined above is that we don't have just 8 children ---there are 6 older that also need attention and care. Those 6 children would suffer too if their siblings were removed.

This woman has done a heinous thing. 14 children's lives have been changed forever by her selfishness and now she is being called out as greedy.

It makes my heart heavy for all 14.

What part of your post is the 'unpopular' part? :waitasec: I think that needs to happen here.

The current 6 kids need serious help that they evidently are not receiving. I believe very strongly that in time, she will be left without 1 child to raise and that is the best thing that could happen.

 

[Logger]

I have a very unpopular opinion but I will share it anyway. I don't want to see these 8 children go home with her. I don't think that she is capable mentally, physically or emotionally to raise another 8 children much less 14 children.

I would like to see these children adopted and placed in homes where they will be loved and cherished for who they are, not what they represent and not for what void they can fill in their Mother's character.

This was my feeling in the beginning. All the events of the last month have convinced me she is capable on any level on handling so many kids. It sounds like she negelected the six at home. She isn't spending much time -- just
five hours daily -- with the eight premature special needs infants.

I hope he just ex-agent lets us know how much money she collected from
her website and what she used it for. I think alot will happen this week.

 

[JMO8778]

I just drove by, but had to stop when I saw the name Leif Garrett. I thought he was soooooooo cute. Too bad he ended up a heroin addict. Hopefully he is over all that but I haven't looked him up in a while.

Leif is on that show where the celebs comment on videos of ppl doing stupid things...can't think of the name of it right now...(someone help me out?).he looks like he's doing just fine.

 

[JMO8778]

Gosh, I actually hope your post is wrong, although most likely with your experience you are unfortunately right.

Then again, how she's acting right now is not my definition of a mother that has it together at all.

mine either,it's just that unfortunately,she does have some rights,and she currently still has custody of all of the kids,so I don't know what it is going to take to be able for CPS to intervene.My guess is she will accept the Angels care,if it's the only way she's able to bring them home.after all,she can't have a future reality show (or any other kind of exploitation) without them.and that is apparently what is on her mind.
But I suspect that may be the best thing,for once they can get into the house and see what all is going on..or what isn't...and document it..that can help build a really good case against her.So it may just be a matter of time,if that happens,until she loses them for good.

I know in Canada where I used to live, they can go on past history absolutely in determining the current state of a person. It cannot be the only determining factor but definitely comes into play in many decisions. RE: Angelina obsession - It would demonstrate a pattern of mental instability & mental health and not simply hormones.

I just cannot swallow that we are now going to sit back and wait. Wait for more 911 recordings, wait for more CPS & police interventions, wait to wake up to CNN Breaking News that Nadya's toddler just threw a baby out the window or worse.

There is in my opinion so much evidence that she is completely incompetent to appropriately care for these children that prevention is the only answer.

This is a unique case and if every family member & friend turned their back on Nadya and walked out on her, how can CPS determine she would be able to safely function as a parent of 14 kids under 7 yrs old? I'm for prevention for the inevitable train wreck. All my spewing about Natalie / Nadya has everything to do with those 14 kids, God help them all. This whole case has brought me to tears.

me too,it's really sad.it's just that what we know is prevention could legally be seen as just 'good intentions',as long as she still has rights to them and hasn't gone over the line far enough yet for CPS to keep them from her.

 

[azwriter]

I have a very unpopular opinion but I will share it anyway. I don't want to see these 8 children go home with her. I don't think that she is capable mentally, physically or emotionally to raise another 8 children much less 14 children.

I would like to see these children adopted and placed in homes where they will be loved and cherished for who they are, not what they represent and not for what void they can fill in their Mother's character.

In my mind, it would be impossible to place all 8 with one family. However, there are open adoptions all the time and I would think that an open adoption where the families of each of the children were open with each other and shared time together. Thereby allowing these children to not only survive but thrive and have their siblings in their life too.

The major problem with the suggestion that I outlined above is that we don't have just 8 children ---there are 6 older that also need attention and care. Those 6 children would suffer too if their siblings were removed.

This woman has done a heinous thing. 14 children's lives have been changed forever by her selfishness and now she is being called out as greedy.

It makes my heart heavy for all 14.

Kat, your opinion, judging from the posts here, is not that unpopular. We have only one way to judge her and that's what we read in the news reports. and seen in the clips. Something is wrong with this woman. She is totally the opposite from what we see as a appropriate behavior for a responsible adult mother. We even question her motives for having so many children. Who can believe her reasons when she claims she only wanted one more child but had 6 implanted. She knew what she was dealing with. She's been there before and knew what could happen. If not, her doctor should have been more ethical.
Every day, or few days, it's something new from her that makes us shake our heads and within our hearts and minds builds a fear and uncertainly for the eight infants still in the hospital.
No, Kat, you're thinking on the safe and pratical side - something Octomom should have done.
I'm in agreement with you.

 

[Mr. E]

On the Today Show this morning they were talking about how difficult it is to keep a child from its biological parent. It came up when someone asked if Octomom would be allowed to take her babies home. So what does this mean? That Octomom will take the babies home, but it will take some horrible tragedy before the state says she's not a fit mother?

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Okay, one thing dawned on me (another Jolie "thing").

In January of 08, it was reported that Jolie was pregnant with twins and confirmed from what I can tell in Feb of 08.

When did Nadya have her IVF for the "octos"? Was she outdoing Jolie with this amazing pregnancy?

Sorry... once I start thinking I can't stop. :doh:

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Leif is on that show where the celebs comment on videos of ppl doing stupid things...can't think of the name of it right now...(someone help me out?).he looks like he's doing just fine.

The Smoking Gun- The Worlds Dumbest Criminals (or something like that)- he, Tonya Harding, Todd Bridges and I can't remember who else "host" the show and give their opinions on crimes. Anyway, Leif looks okay~ he looks a little different from his pretty boy days.

I watched the show a couple times and he seems pretty leveled out now.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

On the Today Show this morning they were talking about how difficult it is to keep a child from its biological parent. It came up when someone asked if Octomom would be allowed to take her babies home. So what does this mean? That Octomom will take the babies home, but it will take some horrible tragedy before the state says she's not a fit mother?

Just hearing this makes your heart hurt, doesn't it?

If it's so hard keeping a child from their biological parent, then I think they should do a paternity test and narrow down the other bio parent. Sperm donor or not, that person might like the chance to help out. I think it should be done for the original 6 as well. Since all have benefited from assistance in some form, their paternity should be proven. (IMO!)

 

[Kat]

Thanks for supporting me after I posted that, I appreciate it. It's just not a popular opinion to seperate the children or to keep them from the bio mom.

I wish there was another way to ensure these children not only survive but thrive and are happy, well and content for the most part (kids are kids on contentment ). I don't see any other way than to seperate them. It would be for the good of all, but I don't think it would come without consequence for any of the 14.

My last words on this today, Shame on you Nadya (Natalie) Shame on you. For putting yourself, your needs before that of your children.