Would a reward help?

  • #21
Isn't that what rewards really are? It seems to me they are anyway.

I believe Fred Thompson said something to that effect on Law & Order
 
  • #22
Well I don't know about a bounty, but the result is the same.
Money motivates many many people.

A Bounty for mine, aside from being a tasty chocolate bar, is received when you've gone out and captured the person yourself. I'm thinking Han Solo/Boba Fett here people.

Despite sounding a little suss, the reward system here works.
Police/Govt announce it and you get results.
And even if it doesn't get the golden bit of information you want, it can jog memories of people who may just add another piece to the jigsaw.
 
  • #23
IDK, eileenhawkeye... For all we know, he may have attempted and been turned down. I'm not making an unfounded claim here, just idle speculation. I think that if it had happened, most of the people I know of who are victim advocates have too much reserve to not go running to the press reporting such a thing. Does anyone know exactly how JR and Beth met?
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Are you saying that you think he tried to join a victims support group and was turned down? Or that he tried to get on a news channel to talk about crime and he was turned down? If it's the first one, I agree with you that I can't see Smart, Runnion, or Klaas going to the media and telling them that JR tried to join their group but they said No. For one, the media wouldn't ask them a question where they would have to bring that up and I can't see any of them just calling the media up to tell them that they rejected JR. It would also be bad PR for them to let people know that he wasn't allowed to join the group because the country is definitely a lot more IDI than it was in the 90s and a lot of people would get annoyed that a group was keeping someone out whose daughter was murdered; people don't like exclusiveness. And of course if they let him join, it would be bad PR too since many would wonder why someone who they believe to be a child killer is allowed to join a group like that.

Now if you're saying that JR tried to go on a news channel to talk about crime and they turned him down, I'm not so sure. They frequently have parents of murdered children on shows to talk about current cases. Having JR on is not as outrageous as having OJ on and it would cause some controversy. Also, the media is becoming more IDI lately and is showing JR to be a victim so I can see them having him on to talk about how the media is treating the parents 'cause of his ~experience~.

I think it's most likely that JR has never attempted to join one of those victims advocates groups and never asked a news channel if he could give his opinion on a case.
 
  • #24
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Are you saying that you think he tried to join a victims support group and was turned down? Or that he tried to get on a news channel to talk about crime and he was turned down?


Nope. Not saying. Not suggesting. Just idle speculation, as I said. I was just saying that if he had tried, I don't think we would have heard about it for the reasons I stated. But I hadn't even thought about it until I read your post, then I wondered how it was that the two met and I saw that as a possibility.

We certainly don't need to start any more false rumors, so let me state unequivocally that I have no inside information that that is the case.
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  • #25
Are you saying that you think he tried to join a victims support group and was turned down? Or that he tried to get on a news channel to talk about crime and he was turned down? If it's the first one, I agree with you that I can't see Smart, Runnion, or Klaas going to the media and telling them that JR tried to join their group but they said No. For one, the media wouldn't ask them a question where they would have to bring that up and I can't see any of them just calling the media up to tell them that they rejected JR.

I don't know about that, but I do know that back in October of 2002, there was a White House conference on missing and exploited children. The keynote speaker was Marc Klaas himself. According to him, the Ramseys were invited, but decided not to show. As Klaas said, quote, "I regret all of the efforts the Ramseys have made to try to look as if they're in the same situation as all the other families who lost children. I can go to a conference of this type and instinctively tell who is being truthful or not."

I think it's most likely that JR has never attempted to join one of those victims advocates groups and never asked a news channel if he could give his opinion on a case.

That seems to be the case.
 
  • #26
I agree with your assessment of things possibly being gray, however I believe that is more in relation to the staging, as I find it hard to believe that Patsy would have written the ransom note, had she not in some way been involved or covering for another immediate family member.

Re what I was thinking I guess this depends on how much she really knew.For ex and this is just an example,let's say JR did it or knew who and why BUT told her hey,our son hurt her again,it was an accident or something like this,we need to HELP him or we need to protect our family,etc.
How many times doesn't it happen,someone convinces us to do something and makes it look like it's the right thing to do without telling us the whole truth though?
 

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