Would you lie in court to save your child? CLOSED FOR REVIEW

Would you lie to save your child's life?

  • Yes

    Votes: 100 18.1%
  • No

    Votes: 261 47.3%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 191 34.6%

  • Total voters
    552
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I voted don't know because right now I can sit here and BELIEVE that I would be honest and forthcoming in a situation like this, but(God forbid) in an actual situation it's hard to say what would happen. I truly do feel for CA and GA regardless of how they have behaved. It is a REAL parent's instinct to protect their child at all cost. Now, they are stuck with protecting their child that murdered their only grandchild. I can't imagine how hard that must be and I am sure that they are flip flopping not because they are just hateful people with complete disregard, but because they are completely lost. They lost their grandchild and are about to lose their daughter. My heart has always gone out to them.
 
No I would not and they both know I would not. They respect me for it. Nor would I expect them to lie for me.

Even if it had to do with LWOP versus DP?

I would rather see my kid in prison than dying at the needle. I'm a bit shocked at this board that many would let their child get the DP. Do most members have kids?
 
If my daughter had murdered my grandaughter I would not lie in court. Period.
 
No I would not and they both know I would not. They respect me for it. Nor would I expect them to lie for me.

Just got off the phone with my mom, and she said the same thing...only my mama is proactive-she'd make the call herself if I did something illegal and she knew it.
:waitasec: Kinda like Cindy did in the beginning of all of this...
 
I feel I have to say this again, I think ICA may have accidently killed Caylee. So, I may have different feelings from other members.
 
I know one thing I wouldn't do. I wouldn't wait 3 years with my kid in jail to mention that I did something my kid was being accused of!!!
 
Even if it had to do with LWOP versus DP?

I would rather see my kid in prison than dying at the needle. I'm a bit shocked at this board that many would let their child get the DP. Do most members have kids?

It is ok for your child to get special treatment but nobody elses? would you fight for everyone to not get the DP (then I understand your argument) You don't believe in the DP.

If it is just because it is your child, then what makes that child better than ours? Why should someone be able to manipulate the truth and disregard that they murdered someone just because that was your child?

Is this a hard thing for a parent to go through. I think it would have already killed me inside to have a child that committed a horrible murder, I would be dead inside.

Why make it worse and get up and make a fool out of myself saying my child was with me at the time of the murder.. WHEN everyone knows it would be a lie.. How disrespectful to the poor person that lost their life at the hands of our own child.. I would be so ANGRY with my child, i would be shaking my head at where I went wrong..I would not lie for them.
 
If my child had killed my grandchild in an act of hatred towards me and then thrown their duct taped body away like trash? I'd damn well lie to put their 🤬🤬🤬 on death row, not keep it off.
 
Even if it had to do with LWOP versus DP?

I would rather see my kid in prison than dying at the needle. I'm a bit shocked at this board that many would let their child get the DP. Do most members have kids?

If one of my kids (they are young adults) did something to warrant the death penalty, would I lie for them? No, I wouldn't!

I've read about families who have been put in that position and didn't lie. I did a refi for Jeffrey Dahmer's mother years and years ago. She had pictures of him on her mantlepiece, but she didn't think he didn't deserve his sentence, either.
 
Even if it had to do with LWOP versus DP?

I would rather see my kid in prison than dying at the needle. I'm a bit shocked at this board that many would let their child get the DP. Do most members have kids?

I don't think anyone here would want to see their child get the needle at all. They also would not get to "let" their child get the DP or not get it....that choice was made by the offender when she chose to (granted she is convicted) murder and a jury of her peers.
I think that's where most people are coming from-they just do not expect that their child would ever put them in that position. Ultimately, Cindy is in this position because of Casey, Casey is not in her predicament because of Cindy. And Cindy does not have enough reliable evidence to make or break the case anyway, IMO.
 
I voted I don't know.

I have thought about this alot and I just don't know.
 
No argumentative tone intended, but I did not write that KC killed Caylee because of Cindy, I wrote that KC is rotten just like her mother and a twisted girl from a twisted family. Stealing from Jesse was proof of that, nothing to do with the murder, but CA acted like the Grunds should just get over it.
Cindy never killed anyone, in fact she may save lives...and there are lots of ugly people out there that never would think to kill. Killing someone in cold blood is an extreme that very few go to.
There are many psychiatrists out there that treat their patients by going into how they formed their life opinions from the behavior of their parents.
I am for the death penalty for many good reasons, but this is the wrong thread for that philosophical discussion.
I am not being cruel, I am being honest. Cindy is a big girl and doesn;t need to be sheltered from her own horrible behavior any longer. So many of us here have done that time and time again-So many people that actually know Cindy have tried to be there for her time and time again, only to be shut out. Including Cindy's own ailing mother.

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

BBM-I have searched my soul many times over to understand Cindy, to know whether or not I was weak of spirit and projecting anger on her without understanding what I would do in her shoes.
As I wrote, I don't know what I would do if my child were facing the death penalty, but I do know this: I would not blame an innocent young man for something I knew was untrue. I would not throw a man's murdered daughter in his face for no reason. I would not be nasty to a woman who did nothing to me. I would not and do not allow my child to shirk personal responsibility, integrity and accountability. ALL prior to any accuation by the state that my child premeditated a murder.

ETA-Corrction: She was nasty to Zenaida after the murder indictment, but the civil case is not a murder trial. Or is it?

I haven't seen anything that Cindy has done outside of this case that would make me think she is any worse or better than a typical person. The fact that she did help her daughter with her child shows me is is a supportive and kind person.

I just think she's getting a lot of unfair backlash as if Casey is the way she is because of her mother. Well no, most kids are born the way they are. Parents can help but it's not her mother's fault she's the way she is. I don't think it's fair to dump it on Cindy.
 
If one of my kids (they are young adults) did something to warrant the death penalty, would I lie for them? No, I wouldn't!

I've read about families who have been put in that position and didn't lie. I did a refi for Jeffrey Dahmer's mother years and years ago. She had pictures of him on her mantlepiece, but she didn't think he didn't deserve his sentence, either.

Dahmer is a bit different, I would have never claimed him in the first place...Like I said (in my mind) I want to think ICA killed Caylee by a horrible accident. She still needs to serve a lot of time. But what if your kid came to you and said.."Mom, I only meant for Caylee to sleep and I accidently killed her" What would you think/do?
 
It is ok for your child to get special treatment but nobody elses? would you fight for everyone to not get the DP (then I understand your argument) You don't believe in the DP.

If it is just because it is your child, then what makes that child better than ours? Why should someone be able to manipulate the truth and disregard that they murdered someone just because that was your child?

Is this a hard thing for a parent to go through. I think it would have already killed me inside to have a child that committed a horrible murder, I would be dead inside.

Why make it worse and get up and make a fool out of myself saying my child was with me at the time of the murder.. WHEN everyone knows it would be a lie.. How disrespectful to the poor person that lost their life at the hands of our own child.. I would be so ANGRY with my child, i would be shaking my head at where I went wrong..I would not lie for them.
Because he's mine. End of story.

I would fight for my child's life if the death penalty was hanging over his head. This includes lying under Oath if I had to.
 
If one of my kids (they are young adults) did something to warrant the death penalty, would I lie for them? No, I wouldn't!

I've read about families who have been put in that position and didn't lie. I did a refi for Jeffrey Dahmer's mother years and years ago. She had pictures of him on her mantlepiece, but she didn't think he didn't deserve his sentence, either.
Dahmer didn't get the death penalty; he got life.
 
I haven't seen anything that Cindy has done outside of this case that would make me think she is any worse or better than a typical person. The fact that she did help her daughter with her child shows me is is a supportive and kind person.

I just think she's getting a lot of unfair backlash as if Casey is the way she is because of her mother. Well no, most kids are born the way they are. Parents can help but it's not her mother's fault she's the way she is. I don't think it's fair to dump it on Cindy.

There is a whole world of theory out that about nature vs. nurture. I definitely believe that allowing a child to steal thousands of dollars and then telling your husband, her other parent, not to discipline her, is a signal to KC that she can do as she pleases and mommy will bail her out. KC felt that she could kick George out of his own house, which to me was mimicry of her mother's disregard for her husband. Even if Cindy had reason to be angry with the man she has matrimonial bonds with, KC had no right to disrespect him in his own home, and then have her lawyer say that Cindy was divorcing George at KC's behest.
If my daughter handed me a clearly faked deposit slip when she actually stole $4,000.00, I would not let it go unpunished.
Shirley sure didn't, she called the bank and considered pressing charges for the money stolen from AlexP. Amy did press charges. That's what most people do, related, friends, or otherwise, when someone has shown a pattern of disregard for others.

As I mentioned, I do not think any typical person would:

-Tell a boy whose check KC stole that he should get over because she "only did it once."
-Call a man whose daughter was murdered and say sarcastically that I know he lost his daughter and all, but I'll expose you anyway cause you don't mess with the Anthony's without repercussion.
-Tell Zenaida that she is not a perfect 10, but she is a perjurer because she is "C. Zenaida Gonzaleeeee"
-Take a baseball bat to a cross while screaming F$%k this LEO, F that FBI agent, F$%k this other guy
-Get in her car and follow a woman and her young daughter around trying to frighten them to the point the woman had to call the cops because CA/GA cornered her with their car
-Set up a foundation that was shut down due to inpropriety
-Write on their granddaughter's memorial foundation page about all the haters out there instead of making it about Caylee
-Take all of the items left at a memorial for Caylee on Suburban and remove them/toss them
-Refer to John Morgan as a drunken slug
-Blame KC's high school for the fact that she did not graduate, which Lee later eluded was due to KC's skipping school

I am sorry, I just don't think most people behave this way. Some, but not most.

ETA-Does any of this mean CA made KC kill Caylee? ABSOLUTELY NOT!
 
See...That's what my point is, I don't know how any parent would be ok with watching their child die when they could have said something to prevent it. LWOP fine, death no.
You don't know that by lying it will prevent it. Cindy obviously did lie to try to prevent it, and Casey may still get the Death Penalty. No, I wouldn't want my child to die, but neither will I lie to cover up for her wrongdoings.
 
I just don't know. I want to say emphatically NO, my religious beliefs tell me NO, common sense tells me No but there's a part of me that says...but... :/
 
I think I would be so devastated they wouldn't be able to understand what i was trying to say between my tears and crying. i don't think I could ever deal with this situation before us.
 
my DH and i have had this conversation before, after watching other cases.

i just don't think i could.
 
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