"The tests said there was a zero percent possibility that I was the father. The tests results were relieving and heartbreaking at the same time. I didn't want anyone else to be that baby's father. I fell in love with her the moment I first saw Caylee".
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Jesse opined that the real reason Casey broke off the engagement was pressure from mom; because, Cindy knew when they married the baby and Casey were moving out. Cindy did not want to give up that control of the child, he continued. Casey deeply resented her mother. Cindy called Casey an unfit mother, thought she was irresponsible, etc.
Jesse tells the reporter that Lee told him on the 15th mom and Casey had a big physical altercation, Cindy was enraged at Casey having stole money from her father (Caylee's grandfather), she confronted Casey. It culmintated in mom literally choking Casey.
"The Casey that I knew could not have hurt a fly.
This dark, selfish, remoresless individual that sits in jail right now, I am not sure what she is capable of. I do not know this Casey, she is NOT the person I once knew." Jesse Grund said.
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Do Hoover and Dominic even know what DNA means?
Posted 12-13-2010 at 08:28 PM by The World According
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I was asked why I think the whole Simon blog is outrageous. Let me get this straight. The blog or radio show sets out that there was a plan put in action by persons trying to get Casey Anthony freed. The list of folks involved is Hoover, Dom, Jose and the Anthonys. Alrighty then. That honeymoon lasted thirty days tops before they were at one another's throats, right? The plan was to collect fingerprints and DNA from Jesse and then somehow transfer that evidence to the baby’s body, while it remained in the bags in the woods..is that the discussion?
So we start with the obvious two questions, who wants Casey Anthony freed and what would it be worth risking? I cannot get serious about this; because, no one and zero are the answers, imo.(Don't let mom and pop fool ya, they want her where she is...they just don't want it to look like they do!)
The thing that makes this silly from jump is we are not dealing with scientists. We are talking about Hoover, Dominic, and the Anthonys. The quest for the finger prints and DNA ( if they somehow mastered how to remove them from surface A and plant them on surface B) would never require leaving Orlando, unless you count a drive to Kissimee.
Baez had at his law firm , items with Jesse's fingerprints on them. I believe it was Rob Dick who Baez asked or tried to imply Jesse's writings on a card for Caylee were more likely words a man may write to his wife or lover, not his little baby. Jesse's fingerprints and DNA would have been on anything that Jesse had ever given Caylee. Moreover, the Anthonys made a big deal about Jesse being on the computer in the Anthony home during one of the gather the friends together to brainstorm meetings. So no one had to travel out of state to get Jesse's finger prints or DNA.
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Would Jose Baez with his lovely wife ,children and a job, risk prison to plant evidence? Of course not. Feign ignorance in court, make poor choices, be immature, wholly misguided, unprofessional, rude, etc......yes, that's our Jose, all day long. In the words of Mark Nejame, " I am being overly generous in my characterization". Is it sad, tired and pitiful watching him make glaring mistakes as a lawyer, to the extreme that according to Mr. Hornsby, "He has become a clown, a legal clown".
Is Casey Anthony someone he would throw his entire life (we are not talking career, we are talking basic freedom), risk disbarment and scandal and prison for? Hardly. In his career, much like the other high profile client he had that is in prison for killing a child, however notorious, this trial will begin and end. He will go on living with his family and working as a free man whether Casey gets off or not. Do I think he is madly in love with her? No chance.
In my mind only a deep (wrong, sick) sense of love and devotion would even plant a seed in someone's mind to reconcile a criminal act, such as what was being suggested, planting evidence as acceptable.
Could someone have overheard some of their nonsense ramblings and taken them seriously? Perhaps. Was Dom ever really getting on a plane to Brazil , Peru or Timbucktwo? Of course not. Would he ever try to put evidence in that bag with the baby? If he did, then I am the queen of England. I take Dom and Hoover as being afraid of their own shadows.
Would I blame Mr. Grund for discussing what he may have been told was being plotted? Of course not. I am sure after hearing the Anthonys literally name his son, and Casey’s lawyers say in open court and in court documents that he should be a suspect…I wouldn’t fault Richard or Mrs. Grund for anything they may theorize or say in a deposition. My point is not that it could have been discussed in the depo, a plot to take the accusation to the next level and get physical with planting evidence. What I think is fanciful is the idea that this particular set of folks could or would have had the foggiest idea how to even effectuate such a feat.
Is mom Anthony callus enough to discuss this? Can I picture these silly men sitting around showing off talking about it? Yes. I do not expect they discuss the stock market or who they are voting for in their local elections, world politics, etc. After reading Dominic's e mails, it wouldn't surprise me if he fancied himself the Easter bunny. I find them to be more troubled than anything , much the way I see Ms. Wray as troubled. I cannot even write their names without a giggle. The pair of them seem to suffer more from Larry, Curly, Moe Three Stooges syndrome than anything. They may say their next case is solving the Jimmy Hoffa murder. That doesn't mean reasonable people shouldn't laugh at them for it.
Would they imagine they can fool seasoned CSI and FBI officials whose entire career and education is this field? How Hoover, and Dominic, together or separately, would mastermind arriving on that scene with local national and international media out on the Anthony neighborhood at any given moment, psychics, local curious neighbors, Joy, and Laura Buchanan types etc. possibly wandering by to do their own search…. to secret evidence into a bag of a badly decomposed baby's skeleton, undetected.....to frame a boy they do not know, to save a girl they believe killed the baby, who is no relation to them, defies logic. IMO
What in the world?
The only person or persons who would risk their freedom to try to cover up for someone that murdered an innocent baby, imo, would have to be someone one is head over heels in love with Casey or sees Casey as an extension of their very self....a parent perhaps. Even then, neither mom, nor pop, nor Lee would ever believe they would get away with it. Indeed rather than frame an innocent boy, if a family member were this misguided by love/guilt/Anthonyonics, they would more likely chicken out in the end. I have said from the beginning, Cindy hates Casey for what she took from her, the one true love in her life, her entire I stand by daughter mantra is more about how Cindy wants to be perceived than it has ever been about Casey. If she loved Casey she would have heeded Mark's advice and shut the hell up, long,long ago. Everything she has said publicly, without exception, has hurt Casey's case. I trust friend and foe have impolred this upon her, and yet she continued, I judge people by what they DO not what they say. No way in the world mom or pop were planting any evidence, imo.
Running one’s mouth off and saying they have suspicions of Jesse is one thing, ( one horrible thing). Actively, literally plating evidence on your beloved grandbaby’s remains is quite another. A lawyer saying Jesse and Kronk should have been thoroughly investigated is them doing their job, the lawyer asking for evidence to be planted against an innocent boy that is highly unlikley.
If anyone talked about it I would not be shocked. That they really truly set out to DO IT…..I would have to see to believe. These are the least self sacrificing, most narcissistic parents I have ever seen. Them risking it all to save Casey…….not in her wildest dreams.
As for the bloggers, the gentlemen throwing Baez’s name out there as a participant, if they did imply that (I must admit, I lost interest two sentences, in), that is just silly from jump. Neither he, nor Cheney are someone I like, trust or respect. I see him needing to change careers and perhaps switch to TV hosting or something along those lines. That is where that line ends for me. I do not see him committing any felonies for Casey Anthony. I do not see him trying to set up an innocent kid. He didn’t even care enough to sacrifice his fees and spend her two hundred thousand dollars from ABC on working her case. Let that be your guide as to what he is willing to risk for Casey Anthony.
As for Lee, his absence in the courtroom speaks volumes. It is public, it is overt, it says I am not with you....let alone going down for your crime.
Could they have discussed rumors they had heard in the depo? Of course. Would those rumors ever have become reality? Does Lucy always move the ball away from Charlie Brown? There are a few things I know for sure in this life. This is one. No one was going near that little baby's decomposing skeleton to plant evidence, not for Casey who they knew killed her. Not in her wildest dreams, and lord knows her dreams do get wild. This is just silly, from jump. IMO
If you really want a laugh , listen to Ginette Lucas, who claims to have "Died a few times", describe Dominic. This will clear up any nutty idea that he could plan and effectuate what is for breakfast, let alone a CSI caper. This is just laughable, imo.
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You just can't make this stuff up!!!
You mustn't take these folks seriously. They are just incredible. If it sounds utterly ridiculous....it is.
