Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[K_Z]

Also, I wonder why Dina hasn't paid Jonah the $3301.73 attorney fees and costs that the court ordered her to pay by July 26? It's not a huge amount of money (for her), but I'd think she'd want to clear that up. If for no other reason, than to give the appearance of being cooperative. IDK. SMH.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

You might be onto something there with the idea of a possible alcoholic blackout. A blackout is considerably different than "passed out" drunk. People experiencing blackouts continue to be conscious and function, they just have no memory of what they did while drunk, when they sober up.

I suppose it is possible Dina could have no memory of participating in Rebecca's murder. An alcoholic blackout could explain a lot, IMO-- especially if others were aware of Dina's drinking habits. Perhaps that's why Nina went after her?

Be that as it may, substance abuse is not a "not guilty" excuse for civil or criminal liability. People with substance abuse are still legally responsible for their actions.

An interesting idea to ponder, Gilgamesh-- thank you. There have been many reports, in various places online, for years now that Dina had a serious drinking problem at the time of Rebecca's death. Rumors, of course-- but persistent rumors. Early on there were lots of comments in various places about Dina sleeping off a hangover the day Max fell-- many presumed that was why she didn't answer the door to police for so many hours. She was seen drinking heavily the night before Max fell, with her BF Mark, IIRC. The one who finally answered the door to police, and whose daughter posted the social media comments about Max being brain dead the next day.

An alcoholic blackout on the night of Rebecca's death could explain a lot, IMO.

It seems to me that the conversation here turns to charater assasination when the Zahau supporters are asked to supply ANY evidence at all that places any of the three defendants in the upstairs room or courtyard that night.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Dina Shacknai has a substance abuse problem, and I find it quite disturbing that posters would use rumors with NO basis in fact from faceless people on the internet with against a Mother who's child ended up in the ICU and dead because of Rebecca Zahau - and then Ms.Zahau did not even have the DECENCY to stick around to face the questions from Child Protective Services, but instead committed suicide just 40 hours after his accident- after boarding her dog and sending her sister home.

Sad that the true victim in this tragedy has such disrespectful, vicious, and untrue things said about her.

After all, this is what happened due to Rebecca Zahau:




I am really looking forward to the day when this is thrown out of court, and Mary Zahau is proven to be the money-hungry LIAR she is.

JMO

 

[K_Z]

I was asked in a deposition if I had ever drank to the point of blackout. I was extremely taken aback by the question but I would think that this should be included for Dina. I'd like to see if she had ever been diagnosed with a personality disorder ( especially borderline personality disorder). Which prescription medicine has she taken in the last 5 years. Has she ever missed any obligations ( such as picking Max up from school at a designated time) due to her drinking?

BBM. I personally highly doubt Dina would ever seek mental health diagnosis or treatment of any kind. Lots and lots of people have clinically relevant mental health behaviors and symptoms, but never seek diagnosis or treatment.

While I agree that she probably has more than a passing familiarity with Axis II behaviors that are clinically relevant (meet criteria for diagnosis), most of those Axis II diagnoses are personality disorders. Just like substance abuse, personality disorders are not the kind of mental issues that render someone "not responsible" legally for their behavior.

I do believe that Dina's very public behavior over the past 4 years makes me pretty certain she has some untreated mental health issues.

 

[K_Z]

I wonder if Dina ever asked Jonah's permission-- Jonah, the child's FATHER's permission, to take the pictures of Max in the ICU, and post them publically online for the entire world to see?

Because I don't think Jonah would have ever given Dina permission to post those private, heart wrenching pictures of their son dying.

I can't believe anyone would post those pictures in such a vindictive manner, especially in this thread-- exploiting a child's death like that. Sad.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

KZ, I think you just don't like seeing what happened to Max Shacknai because of Rebecca Zahau's negligence.

But that is what happened to that sweet little boy, and how is it any differnet than posting photos of Rebecca's blurred-out, nude body over and over in the thread? Isn't that exploiting her death, too? Sort of like digging her up for a sweeps week special?

Do you have a link that shows Dina was the one that took that picture? IIRC, it was taken by the hosptial...for the Child Protective Services investigation that Rebecca didn't bother to stick around for.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

<snipped for brevity>BBM. I personally highly doubt Dina would ever seek mental health diagnosis or treatment of any kind. Lots and lots of people have clinically relevant mental health behaviors and symptoms, but never seek diagnosis or treatment.

I do believe that Dina's very public behavior over the past 4 years makes me pretty certain she has some untreated mental health issues.

I actually believe that Mary Zahau's public behavior over the past 4+ years makes me pretty certain she has some untreated mental health issues. And that Rebecca did, too. And that Rebecca was one of those people you speak of that never sought diagnosis or treatment. I think if she was anything like her sister, Mary, she had some real issues - which her angry, nude suicide proved.

JMO

 

[screecher]

More questions for Nina, why was it you had to use JS vehicle to leave Rady that evening? Did you know dina was leaving?


I'm not surprised dina has not paid up what she owes JS. It certainly isnt the first time she has tried to stiff someone, remember she tried to skip out on the rent she owed from a house she rented.

 

[SweetT]

As we know from the most recent filing in the Zahau Federal Wrongful Death lawsuit, discovery is proceedng along. Specifically, we know at least 24 depositions have taken place since December 16, 2014.



BBM. Adam Shaknai presumably had no compelling desire or reason to avoid or delay his deposition, and was deposed Jan 30, 2015.

We also know that the other 2 defendants, Nina Romano and her twin sister Dina Shacknai, have not been deposed as of the public posting of the above document. That makes a lot of sense to me, FWIW. The two of them need to wait until the last possible moment, until the deposition cannot be avoided any longer, to submit to their 8 hour day of questioning. IMO, they need to wait to see what else comes out in other discovery and depositions, to determine &#8220;how&#8221; they will answer their own deposition questions.

Dina and Nina (well, really only Dina, IMO) has the most to lose in this lawsuit. We all know that Nina&#8217;s financial means are quite limited, and she apparently has no job or career that could be negatively impacted by a verdict in favor of the Plaintiffs. Dina will almost certainly never work as a professional, licensed psychologist (she remains unlicensed), so she needs to protect and preserve her winnings from her divorce from Jonah&#8212;and continue to pursue his money ever more vigorously in her own civil suit against him. She has no other visible source of income or employment, other than continuing to pursue Jonah's money, and she's embroiled in at least 2 very expensive lawsuits. (Although currently it is Dina who owes Jonah money, $3301.73 in court-ordered costs and attorney fees that she was ordered to pay by July 26. From Jonah&#8217;s latest filing of a few days ago in Maricopa County Superior Court, he is renewing his request to be paid the ordered $3301.73.)

Anyway, we all know that the outcome of civil suits is always money&#8212;but often the real motivation is to uncover truth and hold the guilty responsible. Some call that extortion and blackmail&#8212;but that definitely cuts both ways in these 2 cases. One could easily say Dina is engaged in &#8220;extorting&#8221; money from or &#8220;blackmailing&#8221; Jonah AGAIN-- the father of their only child together, who died in such a tragic and accidental death. One could even opine that the lawsuit by Dina against Jonah, in the case of such a tragic accidental death of their child, is yet ANOTHER example of her unspeakably cruel and vindictive behaviors, driven by Dina&#8217;s ongoing greed and jealously. She will surely have to answer a lot of questions about her motivations for filing that lawsuit, in her deposition for the Zahau lawsuit&#8212;it is typical for deposition questions to include questions about what other lawsuits the deposee has been involved with as either plaintiff or defendant. This shows an objective pattern of the person&#8217;s history. But I digress&#8230;.

So, what kinds of preliminary questions will Dina and Nina face in their inevitable depositions? I say inevitable, because I don&#8217;t believe there is any way a judge will dismiss this case, or rule on a summary judgement request, until both Nina and Dina are deposed. IMO, I could easily see the need for either or both of their depositions to exceed the one, 8 hour day of questioning (with proper court approval, of course.)

These are just some examples of introductory questions Dina and Nina will have to answer.



http://www.personalinjurylawyer.com...aims/what-example-deposition-questions-asked-



http://www.wrongful-deaths.com/wrongful-death-deposition-questions.html

I think we all know the deposition questions for Dina and Nina will be a whole lot more detailed that the "soft" introductory questions above. We can all, I'm sure, imagine literally dozens to hundreds of highly relevant questions for each of them. JMO, but I could easily see the need for the plaintiffs to petition the court to exceed the one day, 8 hour deposition time for Dina&#8217;s deposition. There is just so, so very much, IMO, that needs to be asked of Dina on the record, about her involvement in Rebecca&#8217;s death. That includes her actions and behavior toward Rebecca in the weeks and months leading up to Rebecca&#8217;s death. I think a lot of people are looking forward to hearing what she has to say under oath. And IMO, the conclusion of this case belongs in a court room with a jury.

What do you all think? Which questions do you think should be an essential part of depositions for Dina and Nina? I think it would be interesting to read what interested posters think.

I don't think Dina gets to see what the other depos say does she? I think those are pretty much kept close to the vest and given to only the clients attorneys.. I've never heard of such a deal but hey I might be wrong. And as far as Jonah owing her money..well thats what happens when you marry and have kids etc..he took her son from her..via his need to chase women and live with girlfriends etc who had no business watching children and needed to stick to what she was good at.. So I feel no sympathy for him..

 

[screecher]

for dina...why did you leave your sister stranded at Rady?

 

[SweetT]

More questions for Nina, why was it you had to use JS vehicle to leave Rady that evening? Did you know dina was leaving?


I'm not surprised dina has not paid up what she owes JS. It certainly isnt the first time she has tried to stiff someone, remember she tried to skip out on the rent she owed from a house she rented.

Yea but does she have a mug shot somewhere? That's the real question.

 

[SweetT]

I was asked in a deposition if I had ever drank to the point of blackout. I was extremely taken aback by the question but I would think that this should be included for Dina. I'd like to see if she had ever been diagnosed with a personality disorder ( especially borderline personality disorder). Which prescription medicine has she taken in the last 5 years. Has she ever missed any obligations ( such as picking Max up from school at a designated time) due to her drinking?

I think HIPAA laws might come into play on some of that line of questioning.

 

[coastal]

I don't think Dina gets to see what the other depos say does she? I think those are pretty much kept close to the vest and given to only the clients attorneys.. I've never heard of such a deal but hey I might be wrong. And as far as Jonah owing her money..well thats what happens when you marry and have kids etc..he took her son from her..via his need to chase women and live with girlfriends etc who had no business watching children and needed to stick to what she was good at.. So I feel no sympathy for him..

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...he took her son from her...

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Wow. That's harsh.

IMO

 

[BBL]

For both Nina & Dina, I'd ask them about their boating history. I'd ask about their ability to tie nautical knots.

For Nina I'd ask her what Rebecca was wearing when she picked her up at the airport. For Adam, I'd ask him what Rebecca was wearing when he last saw her.
For Nina, I'd ask when she returned the car. Where did she park it? What did she do with the keys?
For Adam, I'd ask about the underwear in the guest room trash
For Dina, I'd ask what she did in the hours away from the hospital
For Nina, I'd ask when she went home. When her son went home. And how.

Uh oh, you got me started

 

[screecher]

I wonder if Dina ever asked Jonah's permission-- Jonah, the child's FATHER's permission, to take the pictures of Max in the ICU, and post them publically online for the entire world to see?

Because I don't think Jonah would have ever given Dina permission to post those private, heart wrenching pictures of their son dying.

I can't believe anyone would post those pictures in such a vindictive manner, especially in this thread-- exploiting a child's death like that. Sad.

I so agree. It is unfathomable to me how a mother could even consider, nevermind actually doing it, violate her child in such a manner.

Another question for dina...why exactly did you exploit and violate your child like that?

 

[screecher]

For both Nina & Dina, I'd ask them about their boating history. I'd ask about their ability to tie nautical knots.

For Nina I'd ask her what Rebecca was wearing when she picked her up at the airport. For Adam, I'd ask him what Rebecca was wearing when he last saw her.
For Nina, I'd ask when she returned the car. Where did she park it? What did she do with the keys?
For Adam, I'd ask about the underwear in the guest room trash
For Dina, I'd ask what she did in the hours away from the hospital
For Nina, I'd ask when she went home. When her son went home. And how.

Uh oh, you got me started

great questions! keep them coming!

 

[LuckyLucy2]

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I'm not surprised dina has not paid up what she owes JS. It certainly isnt the first time she has tried to stiff someone, remember she tried to skip out on the rent she owed from a house she rented.

Do you have a link that Dina tried to "stiff someone" and "tried to skip out on rent"?
IIRC, that is just another rumor that has been told about this victim and did not happen, in my opinion.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

For both Nina & Dina, I'd ask them about their boating history. I'd ask about their ability to tie nautical knots.

For Nina I'd ask her what Rebecca was wearing when she picked her up at the airport. For Adam, I'd ask him what Rebecca was wearing when he last saw her.
For Nina, I'd ask when she returned the car. Where did she park it? What did she do with the keys?
For Adam, I'd ask about the underwear in the guest room trash
For Dina, I'd ask what she did in the hours away from the hospital
For Nina, I'd ask when she went home. When her son went home. And how.

Uh oh, you got me started

Again, none of that has anything to do with whether Dina, Nina, or Adam were in the upstairs or courtyard of the mansion, and therefore, has nothing to do with the WDS, the topic of this thread.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I so agree. It is unfathomable to me how a mother could even consider, nevermind actually doing it, violate her child in such a manner.


Another question for dina...why exactly did you exploit and violate your child like that?

I wonder the same thing about Pari. How could she have let her daughter be dug up from the grave to be displayed on televsion in a sweeps week special? Exploiting and violating your child by exhuming her for a TV talk-entertainment show in an effort to railroad innocent people into murder charges to make $$$$$$$$$?????

 

[K_Z]

I don't think Dina gets to see what the other depos say does she? I think those are pretty much kept close to the vest and given to only the clients attorneys.. I've never heard of such a deal but hey I might be wrong. And as far as Jonah owing her money..well thats what happens when you marry and have kids etc..he took her son from her..via his need to chase women and live with girlfriends etc who had no business watching children and needed to stick to what she was good at.. So I feel no sympathy for him..

BBM. Nothing can be held "close to the vest" from any deposition. It's all on the table for both sides. There is no "ambush by trial" in our legal system. All parties to a lawsuit are entitled to be present at ALL depositions, along with their attorney. They may not ask questions or speak--only attorneys can ask questions (unless a party is officially representing themselves without another attorney).

Pari & Mary Zahau, Dina Shacknai, Nina Romano, and Adam Shacknai are entitled to be at any or all of the depositions, sitting at the table, in the room.

I really hope that the depositions of the relevant parties have been video and audio recorded, in addition to the court reporter's transcription.

 

[K_Z]

Do you have a link that shows Dina was the one that took that picture? IIRC, it was taken by the hosptial...for the Child Protective Services investigation that Rebecca didn't bother to stick around for.

Snipped. That pic was not taken by CPS-- CPS does not take photographs in a hospital setting, and even if they did, they would never give the pics to a family member-- good grief. And I think you know that.

Dina took the pics. She posted them herself on her Max website, as well as her petition site, and another site connected to Dina, and I won't link any of them here due to TOS. I think you know that, too.