WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - # 2

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Welcome to WS Dewey2Me1MoThyme!! Your posts have been really helpful! Glad to have you here.

Thanks you, happy to be here with people whom I've admired for some time now. You guys (and gals of course) rock.

 

[deelytful1]

Or at 3:30 ........ criminology 102 ....

You know what I was getting at right? Generally, the last time the perp says they saw the victim was the time they DID see the victim last which was when the crime occurred ...They weave truth into the lie because it helps them be more credible...
I wasn't trying to be snarky
I learned this in my criminology class (101)

 

[elepher50]

My hinky meter has been in the red zone for a while on this. You all have put out some excellent theories for me to mull over.

What I keep coming back to is that this woman has 3 "older" children, a sick and cranky 3-year old and an 8-month old who require a lot of attention. That's pretty fierce for a woman who is 8 months pregnant with twins.

The stress in that house would not be anything that I would want to be contending with. Mom is rather young (28 years old) so that is a lot of stress to deal with for sure.

 

[elepher50]

You know what I was getting at right? Generally, the last time the perp says they saw the victim was the time they DID see the victim last which was when the crime occurred ...They weave truth into the lie because it helps them be more credible...
I wasn't trying to be snarky
I learned this in my criminology class (101)

Just funning with ya on this rather sad and upsetting night. Lies woven with truths for sure. I think she may have been removed from the house at 6:30 which would have been the last time she was seen but I think the deed may have been done before the 6:30 mark.

 

[Buterflytat]

This is truly sad. Definitely sounds similar to Haleigh Cummings disappearance and the mom sounded like Misty Croslin when she said " and she was gone". God knows that we are all praying for this little girl that she is safe; but as this unfolds it doesn't look like it will end in a good way.
I have never known a sick child that wanted to be outside when they were really sick; they usually want to sleep or lay down and watch tv until they drift off.
The driving around does raise the hinky meter.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Just making sure I'm understanding right...Aliayah's mom is 8 months pregnant with twins?

 

[lynnb]

Just making sure I'm understanding right...Aliayah's mom is 8 months pregnant with twins?

yes she is

 

[Buterflytat]

Just making sure I'm understanding right...Aliayah's mom is 8 months pregnant with twins?

Yes. It has also been said she has an 8 month old. Five kids total and soon to be 7 children.

 

[Cubby]

Finally caught up reading both threads.

Hinky meter flying on this one. NO one in this family willing to talk on camera. Two hours of driving around? Sounds like panic thinking driving rather than searching, imo.

My thought/theory after catching up on all the posts.

Accidental overdose and Aliayah really was sick?
If she is already gone, now I am wondering about the time line.

Speculation: Mom found her deceased when she went to check on her at 6:30am as she was getting up with step dad getting him ready for work. If she found her deceased at 6:30am and she was fine but sick Friday evening, why would step dad go about his day as usual - if they didn't know she was deceased earlier?

And the worst thought crept in my mind. I thought about an old case I vaguelly recall in which an older sister had a party and got her younger 10? or teenage brother drunk and made his friend who was sleeping over sleep in the bed with him, after he was deceased (alcohol poisoning), all night. God forbid, if the 9 yr old was put in that bedroom with Aliayah after mom and step dad knew she was gone, but told the kids she was sick and then whisked her out of that room before she could wake enough to realize what was happening - as a means of setting up an alibi.

Of course I am considering an unreported history of abuse.

ETA: and a cover up out of fear of losing her children.... I don't know how long she was incarcerated previously, but being away from her babies once, I can see a parent trying to prevent that from happening a second time.


Sadly, I don't believe this is going to turn out well.

 

[DLynn]

I'm jumping in here with my thoughts...just musing here...
So the mom is only 28, has 5 kids and 2 more on the way. Wow.
In these tough economic times that is ALOT of kids to feed and care for.
Bio-dad is not around (possibly in prison?) and there is a step-dad in the picture.
Sounds like both the SD and mom also have records.

Sounds like a family at risk.

I don't think things are looking very good for this precious little girl.

If my 2 year old grandson were sick, he would be in bed with grandma. If he were missing I'd be screaming running down the street banging on doors.
This does not sound right at all.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Finally caught up reading both threads.

Hinky meter flying on this one. NO one in this family willing to talk on camera. Two hours of driving around? Sounds like panic thinking driving rather than searching, imo.

My thought/theory after catching up on all the posts.

Accidental overdose and Aliayah really was sick?
If she is already gone, now I am wondering about the time line.

Speculation: Mom found her deceased when she went to check on her at 6:30am as she was getting up with step dad getting him ready for work. If she found her deceased at 6:30am and she was fine but sick Friday evening, why would step dad go about his day as usual - if they didn't know she was deceased earlier?

And the worst thought crept in my mind. I thought about an old case I vaguelly recall in which an older sister had a party and got her younger 10? or teenage brother drunk and made his friend who was sleeping over sleep in the bed with him, after he was deceased (alcohol poisoning), all night. God forbid, if the 9 yr old was put in that bedroom with Aliayah after mom and step dad knew she was gone, but told the kids she was sick and then whisked her out of that room before she could wake enough to realize what was happening - as a means of setting up an alibi.

Of course I am considering an unreported history of abuse.

ETA: and a cover up out of fear of losing her children.... I don't know how long she was incarcerated previously, but being away from her babies once, I can see a parent trying to prevent that from happening a second time.


Sadly, I don't believe this is going to turn out well.

Interesting theory, could also be in line with what you have stated, that step dad did not know. Mother whisks the 9y.o. off to her room after finding the child dead, gets hubby off to work then panic time, 2 hour drive with the deceased child in tow. Very plausible.

 

[cluciano63]

I thought she had 4 children. A 7 yr old, 10 yr old, Aliayah 3, and the 8 month old and expecting twins in two weeks. Who did I miss?

There is a 9-yr old in there someplace...or a 5-yr old

 

[DairyGirl]

Yes. It has also been said she has an 8 month old. Five kids total and soon to be 7 children.

Did she conceive the twins in the hospital after the birth? That is really fast.

 

[lynnb]

hope I explain this right....
Is stepdad an actual stepdad or just mommys boyfriend who lives there and says call me daddy?
Mom's last name is Lunsford, Aliayah's last name is Lunsford. If stepdaddy had the same last name then Aliayah would have a different last name since he's not her biodad. Wait....maybe not...biodad doesn't know she exists.
I'm sooo confused

 

[grandmaj]

My question is this. Have Police verified the time line? I'm not sure what to think when the first we heard of a step dad is tonight.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Case archive album:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Aliayah%20Lunsford%20%20-WV-/

 

[lynnb]

for you nightowls that missed the Nancy Grace show earlier....it should be replaying on HLN in 30 minutes

 

[grandmaj]

This is starting to feel like the Robert Manwell Case Sadly.

 

[ashmoulder]

Hi All,

Just joining so not sure if this has been mentioned or if it is even relevant but has anyone thought that its odd for a three year old to be missing FOUR of her TOP teeth?? That seems quite young to be having teeth already falling out naturally! Let alone the fact that it is odd too lose all four top teeth at once anyway?

Who knows maybe I am wrong.. just trying to think back when I first starting loosing teeth and I don't think it was that young!!

 

[Nonnie]

Drove around town for two hours before finally calling LE for help???? What??
I will always be of the impression that what a mom/parent does /or doesn't do after
(discovering) a child is missing is extremely important!