WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - # 2

[sdevyl]

i think i know of the case that you are mentioning..it was here in Florida..the little girls name ironically was Jessica Lunsford....

 

[momtective]

Does anyone know the name of the street the house is on? I found an address on Walnut Street, is that it?

 

[wenc]

49 Dennison Street, Weston, WV 26452

 

[JeannieC]

WOW thanks Jeannie.. I'd never heard of this one Did they not find signs of a break in, like this case?

No. He went straight in the door. It was an old trailer and those doors don't always close good. That's what LE said about the door at this house too. That was what made me think about it.

I just have a really bad feeling about this.

 

[terracotta]

http://www.newser.com/story/8444/fda-may-ban-cold-medicines-for-young-children.html

I had to research this myself because I'm not sold on the overdose of cold medication theory.. BUT since this report, alot of these medications have been removed from the shelves:
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20101122/accidental-overdose-of-cold-drugs-kids-declines

So, if it was an overdose, I think it was intentional (meaning someone just wanted to over medicate Aliayah so she would stop crying, go to sleep)

Lastly to address a comment about people not calling the police when a child is over medicated and dies because the parent is afraid of getting in trouble.. in this day and age, an ambulance chasing lawyer would jump all over that situation and the family might end up with a SETTLEMENT not jail time but then again they might not be thinking this way.

It seems like many people take over the counter medicines really casually and therefore may not hesitate to give their kids it. Just silly because it really doesn't help the actual cold.
Are cough and cold medicines a problem for children older than age 2?

FDA experts are studying the safety of cough and cold medicines for children older than age 2. In the meantime, remember that cough and cold medicines won't make a cold go away any sooner — and side effects are still possible. If you give cough or cold medicines to an older child, carefully follow the label directions. Don't give your child two medicines with the same active ingredient, such as an antihistamine, decongestant or pain reliever. Too much of a single ingredient could lead to an accidental overdose.



That is from the Mayo clinic site.

Also if people have been arrested or incarcerated I can imagine that they don't have complete trust in LE. I believe that they wouldn't want to be scrutinized again, even if they were innocent. They also probably don't have the money to higher a good lawyer and would have to go through a public defender. Of course that is just a simple overview, of course everyone doesn't thing that way...just a slice of what some people may think.

 

[Sarahlou]

i think i know of the case that you are mentioning..it was here in Florida..the little girls name ironically was Jessica Lunsford....

It sounds the same but Jessica wasn't three years old.

 

[sdevyl]

it was Jessica Lunsford..she lived with her father and grandparents and the child molestor was staying with family like across the street from her home i think it was and he had to have been watching her becuase her father left for the night to stay at his girlfriends so she was with her grandparents and the sicko just went in and took her right out of her bed..and yes kept her there for days..police even knocked on their door and never knew thats where she was...i have also thought maybe if Aliayahs parents home didnt have good locks its possible she got out on her own..i hope they find her..alive..no she wasnt three years old ..the case you are talking about is so similar but not the one i thought it was..its sad that it happens so much that alot of cases are alike that way.

 

[Cubby]

Just speculation:

I sat and thought about it. I can't remember ever reading or hearing of a case where a child had been given an overdose of meds (meds for kids) and the parent(s) who found the child unresponsive or deceased hid the child's body.

I can think of a few that where the child found an illegal drug and ingested it and the parents tried to hide that fact (I'd have to do a google search but I do remember reading that). Usually the child is hidden to cover illegal activities going on in the home. JMHO.

Respectfully shortened. IIRC little Camden Pierce Hughes died from an overdose of cough medicine before his mother dumped him. I don't recall the exact COD, but seem to recall it being an od of childrens cough medicine.

Identified! ME - Unidentified childs body found 14May2011 - Camden Pierce Hughes, 6 #2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Cubby]

A lot of the women around here try to keep it quiet about who they are living with. They get more food stamps/assistance by not reporting them and their income.

Respectfully shortened. this is not directed at you, wenc. I'm angry so venting in general.

Children were not intended to be a source of income. Repeatedly popping out children when one can not afford them is (partially) a result of welfare reform. IIRC, welfare reform was limited to X number of years per child. I've seen too many women continue to pop out children as a means to not time out of the system.

Now that we have learnt more facts in this case, that sad look on Aliayah's face looks to me like a troubled child. She looks hurt, in an emotionally pained way and it breaks my heart.

I'm a never married single mother of 1, and I struggle financially with 1. There is NO WAY I would consider a 2nd, 3rd or 7th. Heck, due to the troubles we see with the flavor of the week being brought in and out of childrens lives by some single mothers, I won't even date until my son is a legal adult and off to college.

This whole thing stinks, it stinks like he77 and Aliayah did not deserve it, nor do the other children who suffer at the hands of parents who are names I can't post without being timed out or banned. :furious:

 

[nursebeeme]

The story has even gone national, and caught the attention of Headline News' Nancy Grace.

At one point, a K9 picked up a scent that ended in the West Fork River, just beside the home, but still there was nothing found.

"Aliayah wouldn't just walk off. I mean she really wouldn't. I mean, she loves her family and we love her back," says her aunt, Wendy Swiger.

Police spent much of Monday questioning the girl's family.

"We just want her home," said her mother, Lena, to WDTV-TV.

Police say her mother has a criminal history, and served time for forgery, but will not elaborate if any of the family is considered a suspect.

"This search will last until she is found," says Posey.

http://www.wchstv.com/newsroom/eyewitness/110926_6796.shtml

 

[deelytful1]

it was Jessica Lunsford..she lived with her father and grandparents and the child molestor was staying with family like across the street from her home i think it was and he had to have been watching her becuase her father left for the night to stay at his girlfriends so she was with her grandparents and the sicko just went in and took her right out of her bed..and yes kept her there for days..police even knocked on their door and never knew thats where she was...i have also thought maybe if Aliayahs parents home didnt have good locks its possible she got out on her own..i hope they find her..alive..no she wasnt three years old ..the case you are talking about is so similar but not the one i thought it was..its sad that it happens so much that alot of cases are alike that way.

JeannieC said the girl was 3 and the case was in SC so respectfully, she was NOT talking about this case...
This case I followed religiously since it was close to me in Florida...
BUT this case definitely could be similar unfortunately..

 

[Cubby]

There's barely any pics of Aliayah.. nevermind her room!

Exactly! If the entire family refused to talk on camera I'd doubt they would volunteer to allow media into the home.

jmo

 

[deelytful1]

Respectfully shortened. this is not directed at you, wenc. I'm angry so venting in general.

Children were not intended to be a source of income. Repeatedly popping out children when one can not afford them is (partially) a result of welfare reform. IIRC, welfare reform was limited to X number of years per child. I've seen too many women continue to pop out children as a means to not time out of the system.

Now that we have learnt more facts in this case, that sad look on Aliayah's face looks to me like a troubled child. She looks hurt, in an emotionally pained way and it breaks my heart.

I'm a never married single mother of 1, and I struggle financially with 1. There is NO WAY I would consider a 2nd, 3rd or 7th. Heck, due to the troubles we see with the flavor of the week being brought in and out of childrens lives by some single mothers, I won't even date until my son is a legal adult and off to college.

This whole thing stinks, it stinks like he77 and Aliayah did not deserve it, nor do the other children who suffer at the hands of parents who are names I can't post without being timed out or banned. :furious:

:goodpost::goodpost:
Can I get an AMEN?
As a never married single mom of 1 I hear you!!

 

[kljohnson0458]

What do you know. This finally hit our news last night in Charleston, WV. I need to go back and read the thread from where I left off yesterday. Sounds like from some of the recent posts that everyone smells a rat.

 

[momtective]

Lewis County does not have tax records online. Anyone have any ideas as to how we can get the layout of the home?

 

[JeannieC]

i think i know of the case that you are mentioning..it was here in Florida..the little girls name ironically was Jessica Lunsford....

OMG I wasn't thinking about Jessica but they were about the same thing. Very close. This was in SC and it was about 12 years ago (I think, might have been longer).

Jessica's abductor lived with a sister and he was younger. This other man was staying with his mother. He was in his 50's I think. His mother was 80.

Good grief! How could that happen twice! If my memory serves me correctly she was placed in a tool box or some kind of small chest and buried. At the time I was working 2 jobs and worked with a girl from SC and she told me all about it because her family lived near there. He was mentally off. Learning disabled, etc. But the thing that got me is that he was capable of doing all that so how "retarded" could he have been? jmo

 

[kljohnson0458]

http://www.stonewallresort.com/

I will bet this is where he works. I didn't map the distance from Weston to here but it isn't far. They have a huge golf course.

 

[sdevyl]

JeannieC said the girl was 3 and the case was in SC so respectfully, she was NOT talking about this case...
This case I followed religiously since it was close to me in Florida...
BUT this case definitely could be similar unfortunately..

i do believe that I "respectfully" stated that it was NOT the same case she was mentioning also..but thanks for taking the time to correct me on it anyway..:great:

 

[deelytful1]

i do believe that I "respectfully" stated that it was NOT the same case she was mentioning also..but thanks for taking the time to correct me on it anyway..:great:

If you did, I apologize. I did not see the correction.
Jessica's case certainly fits the bill tho considering she was stolen right from her own bedroom.

 

[Cubby]

Upthread I read one of the searchers who tracked Aliayah's sent to the river estimated the scent was 3-7 days old. Anyone recall that?

Leads me to two thoughts/questions.

Is it possible this precious child has been gone that long and it took days for Mom and step dad to come up with an alibi?

How do searchers/SAR determine the age of a scent tracked?