WV WV - Bath, WhtFem 30-35, 512UFWV, hysterectomy, permed red hair, May'50

[sonz82]

The fbi bulletins pre 1960 are useful for old mp reports. Many have returned home but still a few unaccounted for, eg Clydie Woodall and Juda Jackson.
@victoriarobinson642 did you submit Clydie?

 

[annpats]

Could the scar perhaps have been from a lobotomy? and the scar on the wrist a from a suicide attempt? Could she have been a former patient at a psychiatric hospital?

I was thinking something along the same lines.

Also, a hysterectomy was a really risky and major surgery in the 1940's & 1950s, how often were they actually performed through patient choice?

I was wondering if the hysterectomy was an enforced sterilization that some people in mental health institutions had, back in those days.

MOO.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

512UFWV

 

[John/Jane Doe]

@Caring1 hey could you post the current NamUs exclusion list for this Jane Doe?

 

[Caring1]

@Caring1 hey could you post the current NamUs exclusion list for this Jane Doe?

6 Missing Person Exclusions

 

[RememberingRyan]

Not exactly my forte, but I tried to brighten her up with her hair color and used stock images of 1950s eyes and clothing.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Jane Doe (unknown-1950) - Find a Grave Memorial

An unidentified white female was found May 10, 1950 in Morgan County, West Virginia. She was found 42 feet down an embankment off old US 522, near Hancock Bridge, in Morgan County, West Virginia. She was between 30 and 35 years old, about 5'5, 125-130 pounds, red permed hair, 4 scars: w shape...

es.findagrave.com

 

[heartanium]

Death certificate from find a grave

 

[madamx]

Bertha Marie Tidd Newell - Missing since July 13, 1948 from Zanesville, Ohio.
1119DFOH - Bertha Marie Tidd Newell

Height is a bit off age is within reason, the point of her nose is catching my eye. She also had 10 kids.

She had some mental health issues before her disappearance and stayed in an Ohio state mental hospital for a brief period.
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UID Rule Outs - 12/21/16
Mabel Chambers 1920 Delaware
Thelma Cobb 1916 Indiana
Edna Kaminski 1921 New York
Lora Skaggs 1920 West Virginia
Bertha Smith 1913 Texas

Was she ever submittied?

 

[SimsGuy67]

Hey everyone. I'm working on a new and potentially promising lead. I'll message the lead when I'm done making a thread.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

She would have been a bit younger, but Jean Elizabeth Spangler reminds me a lot of this Jane Doe:

436DFCA - Jean Elizabeth Spangler

www.doenetwork.org

 

[SimsGuy67]

She would have been a bit younger, but Jean Elizabeth Spangler reminds me a lot of this Jane Doe:

436DFCA - Jean Elizabeth Spangler

www.doenetwork.org

After the other lead I was investigating being fruitless (We'll probably still test it just in case), I think the circumstances of Jean's case may be one of the only long distance cases where I'd say possible. If she and the fugitives she was possibly with got to Texas in 4 months and were almost caught, there may have been some urgency to get as far away as possible.

 

[heartanium]

Pulled from the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin, Febuary 1951, Vol 20, No.2, pg 23

Teeth - Natural - number 1 and 16 missing, numbers 2 and 19 silver filled, number 31 gold filled or inlay, number 32 partially erupted.

Teeth numbering system for reference:

Also mentions that the Y shaped scar on on her wrist was "recent"

 

[Alleykins]

Those are some tiny feet

 

[Friday Fan]

Those are some tiny feet

Probably wrong shoe size. They get that kind of stuff wrong alot.

 

[lightofmine99]

Bumping!

The forced sterilization angle is compelling but is it not possible for the hysterectomy scar to have been for something else? Like removing a cyst or a tumor?

But if it was a real hysterectomy, the Bath Jane Doe could be a grandmother and great-grandmother. It may take someone digging into their genealogy and realizing nobody knows what happened to a grandmother or grand aunt.

 

[cenazoic]

Those are some tiny feet

While there can be differences between manufacturers and even styles (ie, your size in running shoes vs heels), shoe sizing hasn't changed much since it was established in the 18th century. There are also differences between German/English sizing and the "Paris Point System" (19th century, and generally what's used in Europe and Asia today). US sizing is generally based on the English/German system based on 1/3 inch increments.

According to this site, a 4.5 shoe size equates to about an 8.5" inch foot (heel to toe) in the US.

Tiny detail, and possibly incorrect anyway, as @Friday Fan mentioned, but was idly curious on this point.

 

[cenazoic]

Map of general location her body was found from 1946 (Hancock MD circled in red).

Current ruleouts (no change since 2022):

 

[Soulmagent]

Dorothy Forstein ?

THE VANISHED HOUSEWIFE — American Hauntings

 

[beavt]

Dorothy Forstein ?

THE VANISHED HOUSEWIFE — American Hauntings

You are the third person to mention DF as a possible match. And I’ll 4th that idea!