ZFG Civil Case: Casey's Deposition

[Chilly Willy]

There is a place on forthepeople.com website to donate money to Zenaida's case.

I recall that a paypal account was set up almost immediately to make donations for Zanaida. I also know she was offered many jobs through one of the TV stations in Orlando. I wonder if she accepted any of them.

 

[erinleigh]

Singled out and targeted? The cops had to do their job and contact her. They contacted her, verified she was not the imaginary person, and they went on their day. When this all happened,she was living in a motel, so it sounds to me if anyone destroyed Z's life, it was not Casey. In fact her living in a motel and being down on her luck explains why shes trying to be the person Casey described, she obviously needed money. If she just added Fernandez as a distraction and was indeed mimicking this woman, then she would have said, C. Zenaida Fernandez Gonazle took her kid, because lets not act like Gonzale is not a real last name in this world.

She is not Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez, and Casey said she was not the nanny, and she does not fit the description. Why does everyone want someone to profit who does not fit the description at all?

As much as I hate lawsuits for the most part in this particular case I will not judge ZFG. If you remember the media frenzy when this case began I can easily see where ZFG was harassed, threatened and singled out. People wanted to believe Caylee was alive. Its not ZFGs fault she wasn't a "10". Casey never came out and cleared her. Casey kept alluding to having to "protect" her family from Zanny. It could be meant to make people assume she WON'T identify her. I can see where people went overboard with harrassment of ZFG. Making accusations, screaming when she walked by, death threats ect. People wanted Caylee found!! This was a woman who was not in the news prior and didn't ask to have her name brought into the media in a kidnapping case. Its been proven she was at the apt complex where casey led LE so I say "go for it zenaida" casey needs to be held responsible for the lives she destroyed. And if its ZFG that holds her responsible then she has my support. This lawsuit isn't about Caylee. This one is 100 percent about Casey being a liar who destroys other peoples lives with her BS. She did defame innocent people. I would also support JG if he spoke up against being falsely accused. Someone needs to stop the casey anthony deceit and hit her where it hurts. In her greedy wallet. She doesn't care for anyone. Even her own daughter. She DOES care about $ and being punished for her crap. Let the rain fall I say. I support everyone who sues her for what she did to their lives.

BTW I think the depo will give us nothing. She will plead the 5th all the way thru.

 

[LambChop]

I have to admit there is some really, really good brainstorming sessions on here in defense of ZG, who by the way is a real person, unlike ZFG who does not exist. So I have to ask, John Morgan is that you out there getting ready for all those questions coming your way??? I sure hope so. Having gone over everything and covered all the bases I think you're ready. Now on with the show. LOL

 

[crimesnooper]

Who did Casey say took Caylee?

That's what I was asking you.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Judge Strickland did not even know about the money when this lawsuit was filed. Remember the trips to JB's office with KC and the loaded backpack. They were pictures of Caylee according to CA's deposition. Morgan would have no way of knowing KC was making a deal for $200,000. If there's a judgement against KC she will either have to pay now or she'll pay later. It's that simple. jmo

What does Judge Strickland have to do with this?

Morgan isn't worried about the money, he wants to be known as the attorney who got to depose Casey Anthony.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I have to admit there is some really, really good brainstorming sessions on here in defense of ZG, who by the way is a real person, unlike ZFG who does not exist. So I have to ask, John Morgan is that you out there getting ready for all those questions coming your way??? I sure hope so. Having gone over everything and covered all the bases I think you're ready. Now on with the show. LOL

So how can a person who does not exist be defamed?

 

[LambChop]

As much as I hate lawsuits for the most part in this particular case I will not judge ZFG. If you remember the media frenzy when this case began I can easily see where ZFG was harassed, threatened and singled out. People wanted to believe Caylee was alive. Its not ZFGs fault she wasn't a "10". Casey never came out and cleared her. Casey kept alluding to having to "protect" her family from Zanny. It could be meant to make people assume she WON'T identify her. I can see where people went overboard with harrassment of ZFG. Making accusations, screaming when she walked by, death threats ect. People wanted Caylee found!! This was a woman who was not in the news prior and didn't ask to have her name brought into the media in a kidnapping case. Its been proven she was at the apt complex where casey led LE so I say "go for it zenaida" casey needs to be held responsible for the lives she destroyed. And if its ZFG that holds her responsible then she has my support. This lawsuit isn't about Caylee. This one is 100 percent about Casey being a liar who destroys other peoples lives with her BS. She did defame innocent people. I would also support JG if he spoke up against being falsely accused. Someone needs to stop the casey anthony deceit and hit her where it hurts. In her greedy wallet. She doesn't care for anyone. Even her own daughter. She DOES care about $ and being punished for her crap. Let the rain fall I say. I support everyone who sues her for what she did to their lives.

BTW I think the depo will give us nothing. She will plead the 5th all the way thru.

The one thing that bothered me the most is when GA went before the cameras at the Kidfinder's tent and said, "We have people following the person who has Caylee (paraphrased)." He would not say who they suspected but this also came on the heels of CA saying KC was not shown photos of any of the ZG's. And then news GA bought a gun to go after this person and find the truth. People react to what they hear. Thinking back if we were to review all those tapes, videos of the family's interviews in front of the cameras when we did not know to what they were referring I think we would be shocked. Maybe ZG had a right to be terrified. Afterall we are talking about KC's family. jmo

 

[LambChop]

So how can a person who does not exist be defamed?

Ask KC. She based ZFG on someone. Hopefully in a few short days we will be enlightened. jmo

 

[camcneishg]

MCA's atty is filing a motion to dismiss......heard on IS

 

[LambChop]

What does Judge Strickland have to do with this?

Morgan isn't worried about the money, he wants to be known as the attorney who got to depose Casey Anthony.

I believe the comment was that ZG, threw her attorney, was aware of the fact that KC's attorney was brokering a deal for her for $200,000 and that information was only made public by JSS. Regardless of what we think, truth always seems to prevail. It's like flowing water. I will always find a way. jmo

 

[crimesnooper]

I resent this remark and feel it is uncalled for. Some people happen to believe that Zanaida has no case and have, IMO, put forth valid reasons why. That is not dragging anything into a cesspool and it's not baseless bile. Your post is insulting.

I don't find this post insulting at all. Whether you Beleive the woman has been wronged or she is a money seeking fraud, the comments and tone about her are off the charts as far as hatred.JMO

 

[Chilly Willy]

It seems that some of you think KC should not be held accountable for the lives and reputations of innocent people she has destroyed. While it is true that there are many women with the name Zenaida Gonzolez, the fact remains that only this particular Zenaida Gonzolez had a connection with the Sawgrass Apts. where KC claimed to have dropped off Caylee. This woman was singled out and targeted for that reason. KC didn't just make up a name off the top of her head. She doesn't do that. All of her 'imaginary friends' are based on actual people; Jeffery Hopkins, Juliette Lewis, Rachel, Gloria..... She purposely laid the blame on this particular ZG because it fit her story. Adding Fernandez to the name was only done as a distraction, to cover herself from any possible lawsuit.
I don't see this woman's lawsuit as cashing in on Caylee's death. I see it as holding KC responsible for falsely accusing an innocent person of a horrific crime, whether it's Zenaida Gonzeles or Zenaida Fernandez Gonzolez makes no difference.

What real people are Casey's inspiration for Juliette Lewis, Rachel, and Gloria?

 

[Chilly Willy]

I don't find this post insulting at all. Whether you Beleive the woman has been wronged or she is a money seeking fraud, the comments and tone about her are off the charts as far as hatred.JMO

I must be reading a different thread because I don't see anyone expressing hatred toward Z?G, only opinions about the validity of her lawsuit.

 

[crimesnooper]

I must be reading a different thread because I don't see anyone expressing hatred toward Z?G, only opinions about the validity of her lawsuit.

really???

 

[Chilly Willy]

The one thing that bothered me the most is when GA went before the cameras at the Kidfinder's tent and said, "We have people following the person who has Caylee (paraphrased)." He would not say who they suspected but this also came on the heels of CA saying KC was not shown photos of any of the ZG's. And then news GA bought a gun to go after this person and find the truth. People react to what they hear. Thinking back if we were to review all those tapes, videos of the family's interviews in front of the cameras when we did not know to what they were referring I think we would be shocked. Maybe ZG had a right to be terrified. Afterall we are talking about KC's family. jmo

Where has it been said that George got a gun with the intention of going after Z?G?

 

[Chilly Willy]

really???

Yes, really. A differing opinion discussed reasonably is not showing hatred toward anyone. Can you provide one example of a post displaying hatred toward Z?G?

 

[Chilly Willy]

BBM-When did KC tell the public that she was not the nanny? The only time I ever head KC rescend anything about a nanny was when JB's opening statement failed to mention one.
It is true that KC ruled out ZG with LE, but then she went on video which she knew would be disclosed to the public and denied that she ruled her out. LE was not free to help clear ZG at that point because they were conducting an investigation.
In Lee's deposition, he told KeithM/JM that he was following up on everything KC said, though he did not feel KC was necessarily being completely truthful in all of her details. All it took was for one person to, like Lee, believe that KC ws lying to protect herself, her family or Caylee, and that maybe KC was not giving the exact description of ZFG....and the one person did crop up, he followed ZG one day and threatened to kill her. That's the worst case, though..
Best case: Let's say that people didn't even really believe that ZG was the nanny KC spoke of-It does not mean that whenever she spoke her own name in public she did not get dirty looks, teased, asked if she had Caylee, etc. People can be cruel even when they don't know, care or mean what they are saying.
There is nothing to have stopped any Zenaida Fernandez, Zenaida Gonzalez, or any combination of that name to file suit against KC. But Zenaida from Kissimmee was brought up several times, with or without the Sawgrass connection, and she did sue.

From the Complaint:

24. The acts and omissions of act of Defendant, CASEY ANTHONY, involved outrageous conduct which cause the Plaintiff, ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ, to suffer severe emotional distress

“We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony,” Morgan said.

"Her lawyers, her parents, everybody in the world on her behalf says it," Mitnik told reporters. "It's troubling that she's resisting answering that question...I don't know whether she's wanting to keep her options open," Mitnik said.

From KC's attorney, which is somewhat telling as to KC keeping her options open: Kasen said Anthony would be willing to say that this Gonzalez is not the woman in question — if Gonzalez's attorneys drop the civil suit

:waitasec:

Finally, whether you or I believe ZG has a case, HHJR certainly does and unless you are a civil attorney, I know I am not, HHJR has much more experience in this arena than we do. What is the issue with letting a jury hear the facts?

It bothers me that Morgan has so many facts wrong. I wonder if the suit would have been allowed to progress if the judge were aware that so much of what Morgan claims is false.

 

[bobloblaw]

I must be reading a different thread because I don't see anyone expressing hatred toward Z?G, only opinions about the validity of her lawsuit.

This is a victim friendly forum, ZG is having her character assasinated right here in front of our eyes and its not cool. She is another victim of ICA and her lies, no matter how much you and chablis want to defend the criminal.

ICA = criminal

ZG = innocent victim.

 

[LambChop]

What real people are Casey's inspiration for Juliette Lewis, Rachel, and Gloria?

Juliette Lewis = "Natural Born Killers" a Universal motion picture
The two roommates were names of classmates that were switched around between the last name and first [i.e. Rachel Rosa, Jennifer Torres (can't remember their actual names) were changed to Jennifer Rosa & Rachel Torres.]

Jeffrey Hopkins = went to school with LA, worked at Universal becomes Jeff Michael Hopkins

Apparently middle names are significant. She uses people she knows and creates fake people by adding a middle name. So "Fernandez" in ZG and "Michael" for Jeff Hopkins.

For anyone to say this is not what KC meant to do with ZG really does not know that as a fact. She has lied and there is no way of knowing KC did not know who this woman was and did not have plans to implicate her had she not come forward publicly. GA admits he had people following the kidnapper. How do you following someone who is invisible and does not exist? The likely conclusion is they were following ZG.

If nothing else this woman has a right to know why Casey Marie Anthony lied to her mother, sent her mom out to tell the world LE did not clear this woman by showing KC her picture when KC knew that was not true. I would want to know and I would have every right to find out if I was, in fact, a target.

I honestly think you are looking at the wrong person for answer. They answers lie with KC. She is the one who knows why she lied. If nothing else, ZG deserves to get to the truth. jmo

 

[suzihawk]

I'm confused about all those checks that were mentioned. Did Cindy just accept the loss without trying to recoup from her bank or the payees who accepted forged checks? It seems to me that a person like Cindy would have contacted her bank and the stores where the checks were cashed and try to claim that she was a victim of a thief and try to recover some of the money.

What?! And expose her perfect daughter and hold her accountable? No way.