ZG Hires Attorney - Lawsuit Against Casey Anthony Part 2

[Friptzap]

That she lied is likely to enhance ZFG's chances of winning, in my lawyers' opinions. She slandered the woman over a period of time, insisting that she handed off her daughter to ZFG at the Sawgrass. She even insisted that ZFG at the Sawgrass took Caylee, after LE confronted her with the fact that there IS no nanny named Zanny. She gave enough detail that an image fitting this woman formed in the public mind (race, appearance, NY connection) but backed off on the photo array to preserve her "defense."

You can't make the aggressor into the victim, here, CW. ZFG is not the aggressor.

With all due respect one lawyers opinion holds no water over another lawyers opinion. There are lawyers arguing boths sides of this.

That said she did not slander anyone in particular other than her "real" ZFG Nanny, if one exists, and if she is also innocent otherwise she would of course be guilty and therefore it would not be slander.

She specifically said this ZFG is not the one that took her child, so how can you derive she slandered this one? Again the MEDIA and bloggers did this, not Casey. I wish it were not true and I wish they could find some other law to base their claim on other than slander/libel/defamation because that "boat won't float."

Perhaps they can create enough drama in the trial to convince a Jury, honestly if this happens I would feel like I had just lost some Constitutional Rights. That does not please me at all and I would never want to speak to law enforcment again regarding ANY crime and would keep my witness statments to myself!

Please undertand I truely believe Casey stole this womans information and is actually using it in her lies, but you need to find a law to fit the crime to sue her for, I believe they have chosen the wrong law to lay down here. Find something else that fits because libel/slander/defamation does not fit this crime.

 

[tiffertots]

I'd rather be a SURVIVOR than a VICTIM anyday!!

 

[Friptzap]

The media did not file the criminal complaint with ZFGs name-- KC did. Information re: kidnappers of always released to the press, right away. It is not private. We've discussed this, before, honey!

After the Sawgrass story fell through, KC made one up re: ZFG and the park. She told her security person, knowing that he would repeat it.

The information about LE clearing the woman was published as soon as it happened. However, the lady's image, name, race, and rental ap was already in the public mind.

That LE cleaned up KC's mess does not absolve KC from making it, to begin with.

I hope ZFG is given a HUGE award, despite the fact that (as she knows) there is little chance to collect.

She filed a criminal complaint with A ZFG's name she allready said after police asked her it was not THIS ZFG. As you are admitting. Casey never released anything to the media and she never wrote anything in the paper about this crime, she cannot be held responsible for the media twisting this all out of proportion based on the law they are using to charge her with. PLEASE I want someone to find a law that CAN be used so she CAN win a case against Casey, but I do not feel this case will win basing it on the laws they are trying to base it on. Just because we discussed this before does not mean I ever agreed with you.

There is enough doubt here in this thread alone to prove that there will be just as many people in the jury on both sides of this argument, I wish it were not true and I hope they get some really dumb people that will find for ZFG but I have been in a jury pool and they are not all stupid people.... Which honestly is a good thing or I would think our justice system was a total failure.

 

[Clearly Confused]

Is she file a suit against the employer who fired her over this? Wouldn't that be wrongful termination?

 

[Friptzap]

Is she file a suit against the employer who fired her over this? Wouldn't that be wrongful termination?

she was fired before this all happened.

 

[calgary]

I thought the lawsuit was stupid. The lawyer of course will do all he can to get any "movie/tv" money out of it. I think ZG had visions of being the next Amber Frey. Who knows, maybe she will. Anything that will help put Casey behind bars is fine with me. I hope she/lawyer net millions :crazy:

 

[Dr. Pennypacker]

Well, if MY name was used in a criminal report, and MY kids were threatened because some people believed it, I'd do what ZFG is doing, but faster, harder, and more publicly. I would use the legal system to shove every, single slanderous, word back down that mendacious mouth.

KC did this. ZFG did not.

You tell 'em!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[Brini]

With all due respect one lawyers opinion holds no water over another lawyers opinion. There are lawyers arguing boths sides of this.

That said she did not slander anyone in particular other than her "real" ZFG Nanny, if one exists, and if she is also innocent otherwise she would of course be guilty and therefore it would not be slander.

She specifically said this ZFG is not the one that took her child, so how can you derive she slandered this one? Again the MEDIA and bloggers did this, not Casey. I wish it were not true and I wish they could find some other law to base their claim on other than slander/libel/defamation because that "boat won't float."

Perhaps they can create enough drama in the trial to convince a Jury, honestly if this happens I would feel like I had just lost some Constitutional Rights. That does not please me at all and I would never want to speak to law enforcment again regarding ANY crime and would keep my witness statments to myself!

Please undertand I truely believe Casey stole this womans information and is actually using it in her lies, but you need to find a law to fit the crime to sue her for, I believe they have chosen the wrong law to lay down here. Find something else that fits because libel/slander/defamation does not fit this crime.

Defamatory lies ------------> reckless disregard for consequences ------------> public exposure -----------> proof of harm. All this within the context of "reasonable man."

Would the average Joe Six-Pack be persuaded that THIS ZFG was THE ZFG:?

THAT is the test. That's why I predict the courts will find for ZFG.

 

[princess]

Is she file a suit against the employer who fired her over this? Wouldn't that be wrongful termination?

The State of Florida is a "Work at Will" state.

Any company in Fl. can fire you for any reason at anytime and they do not have to tell you why and give you a reason..and you in turn get the pleasure of quiting at will at anytime without a reason as well here
(unless you are in a Union, which is a rarity here in Fl.)

She was a cleaning lady..probably with a small company..if they have less than 50 employess they are exempt from some Fl. employment laws, such as not having to offer insurance among other things.

She probably did not work for a real big company...probably Mom & Pop..JMHO

 

[Clearly Confused]

she was fired before this all happened.

Thanks. I ask because I thought she said she was fired because of all the unwanted attention to her job and that she did not want to mention the name. I could be wrong.

 

[Brini]

Is she file a suit against the employer who fired her over this? Wouldn't that be wrongful termination?

Dunno? Is it an "at will" employment situation? Those can be terminated for any or for no reason by either side. At least, in this state.

 

[princess]

she was fired before this all happened.

Provide a link please..because everything reported is to the contrary...

 

[Brini]

Thanks. I ask because I thought she said she was fired because of all the unwanted attention to her job and that she did not want to mention the name. I could be wrong.

That and maybe people threatened to withdraw their business.

 

[Brini]

she was fired before this all happened.

She said she was fired AFTER it started.

 

[princess]

sorry...I think this lawsuit is absolutely retarded!! But par for the course in todays society...I would expect nothing less!

Can you use a word besides retarded..those of use with special needs children are very sensitive to that word being thrown around..just asking..

:blowkiss:

 

[Brini]

All KC had to do to not be sued was: 1) Tell the truth about what happened to her child, or 2) Make up a completely unidentifiable "bushy haired man" like other criminals sometimes do.

KC was the initiator, resulting in harm to ZFG.

No one ELSE initiated any of this. KC did it ALL by herself.

 

[Brini]

Provide a link please..because everything reported is to the contrary...

She said that on NG two nights ago. I'm sure you can find a link either on MG's w/s, or on this one.

 

[princess]

She said that on NG two nights ago. I'm sure you can find a link either on MG's w/s, or on this one.

I am asking for a link from the other poster who said she was fired BEFORE being blammed...



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Originally Posted by Friptzap
she was fired before this all happened.

Provide a link please..because everything reported is to the contrary...
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[Friptzap]

Defamatory lies ------------> reckless disregard for consequences ------------> public exposure -----------> proof of harm. All this within the context of "reasonable man."

Would the average Joe Six-Pack be persuaded that THIS ZFG was THE ZFG:?

THAT is the test. That's why I predict the courts will find for ZFG.

And the boat you base these claims on don't float. The statute they are trying to sue her on are not the correct ones for the crime. I have no doubt Casey did something wrong, I just want JPM to base this suit on a statute that holds more water. He has a pefect case against the media, TEHY CANNOT REPEAT SOMEONE ELSES DEFAMATION etc etc etc and hold no LIABILITY. If as you say Casey is the one at fault here then they are equally liable for publishing her claims and for their continuation of seeking this person out trying to find her at fault, yeah now they jump on her bandwagon but in the beggining they were guilty.

Why does he not go after them? Freedom of speech and he knows this suit holds no water because of it. If he cannot win a case against them he will not win one against her unless he finds a stupid jury he can blindside with hatred towards her because of what she is being accused of doing to her daughter. The press cannot claim freedom of speech for printing Casey's lies if she is supposed to be guilty here, Casey cannot be blammed for them printing her lies because she TOLD the police this person was not the one and she did not ASK them to print anything. Read the statutes they are very clear to me in that Casey NEVER said anything publicly she cannot be held responssible because the media took her police report and printed, or repeated in in tv or radio news and for the simple fact that she never meant this person in her remarks.

I admit and HAVE ALWAYS STATED, even months ago when many people even on this forum were trying to claim this ZFG should be a suspect, that Casey has to have stolen this womans information and used it in her made up story about her fake nanny. That said find a real law to use against her, this one is just not strong enough to succeed in my opinion.

Now that is my opinion, and unless you can provide another law on which Casey can be found guilty all we are going to do is repeat the same debate arguments over and over, you have provided no details that will ever convince me otherwise.

 

[Friptzap]

Provide a link please..because everything reported is to the contrary...

Reported in the news or on this forum, sadly alot of mis-information is reported in both places

In the interview number V on this site she says she has no middle name, yet one appears in her lawsuit: http://www.local6.com/news/17007926/detail.html
No never no middle name... (not asked but I thought it was important to add.)

In this NG interview her lawyer only says she was fired but not when:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/01/ng.01.html


In this Wesh news report she says why she was fired but not when:
http://www.wesh.com/news/17486377/detail.html

"For Gonzalez, the damage was done. She said she lost her job managing a cleaning crew. Her boss told her they couldn't let one name bring a company down."

These "claims" here so far are after the incident, tonight I will try and search for the ones before, I believe I have only seen those in new videos though and or some of her appearances on video. But I have seen many posters and blogs and other online news reports stateing both. This is all I have time for though atm sorry.