Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #110

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This just makes me sick: this is what we have come to as a country- God help us--- A fine and wonderful scientist like this gets this horrible treatment --
 

This just makes me sick: this is what we have come to as a country- God help us--- A fine and wonderful scientist like this gets this horrible treatment --
It is sad, and it happens on both sides, each side goes after the other side. We've lost the ability to deal with different viewpoints - scientific and other.
 

This just makes me sick: this is what we have come to as a country- God help us--- A fine and wonderful scientist like this gets this horrible treatment --
It is gross. My husband is friends with a guy named Anthony Fauci, and strangers sent him death threats on Facebook at the height of the pandemic. Not only is it gross, but it's really sad these people have nothing better to do with their time.
 
It is gross. My husband is friends with a guy named Anthony Fauci, and strangers sent him death threats on Facebook at the height of the pandemic. Not only is it gross, but it's really sad these people have nothing better to do with their time.
I feel terrible for what Dr Fauci has been put through-for doing the right thing-it is sad
and disgusting
 
I got my second bivalent booster yesterday -- #6 covid shot in total.

My earlier bivalent shot was in November and it recently occurred to me how long ago that was.

I am fortunate to live in such a small town that I can usually arrange to only visit a store, restaurant, etc, when it's essentially empty, so I don't usually wear a mask when I go in. (In the bigger grocery store and drugstore in the county seat, I always still wear a mask.)

It's farmers market and tourist season now and places are more crowded, plus I've agreed to drive two friends to a city about 2 hours away in a few weeks, for the hip surgery one is having (and her spouse can't drive right now but will ride along). Friend's sister will drive them back home after surgery and stay to help during recovery, so I'm only needed to drive the one time. But still that's 2+ hours in a small enclosed space with two other people, so I decided this was a good time to boost my immunity.

I had far fewer side effects with the Pfizer shot last autumn than I did with all the earlier Moderna shots I got, so I was hoping I could get Pfizer again, but my County Public Health office only had Moderna, so I took what was available.

This morning I have a slight fever, and feel kinda achy, plus the sore arm, but it's not bad compared to my earlier reactions. I'll just putter around the yard today and tomorrow, only doing what I feel like doing. I imagine I'll be back to feeling good by Sunday or Monday.

ETA forgot to mention that officially only immunocompromised people or those over 64 are cleared for another booster. I'm not 64 yet so they asked me about a bunch of health issues that would qualify me, but other than slightly high cholesterol, I didn't have any. But when I mentioned that my mom is in skilled nursing, they gave me the ok to mark down "immunocompromised" and receive the shot. In my county hardly anyone gets the covid shots so there is no shortage, but perhaps elsewhere in the state they have to worry about not running out so limit who can get them. Silly if you ask me, but..
 
I got my second bivalent booster yesterday -- #6 covid shot in total.

My earlier bivalent shot was in November and it recently occurred to me how long ago that was.

I am fortunate to live in such a small town that I can usually arrange to only visit a store, restaurant, etc, when it's essentially empty, so I don't usually wear a mask when I go in. (In the bigger grocery store and drugstore in the county seat, I always still wear a mask.)

It's farmers market and tourist season now and places are more crowded, plus I've agreed to drive two friends to a city about 2 hours away in a few weeks, for the hip surgery one is having (and her spouse can't drive right now but will ride along). Friend's sister will drive them back home after surgery and stay to help during recovery, so I'm only needed to drive the one time. But still that's 2+ hours in a small enclosed space with two other people, so I decided this was a good time to boost my immunity.

I had far fewer side effects with the Pfizer shot last autumn than I did with all the earlier Moderna shots I got, so I was hoping I could get Pfizer again, but my County Public Health office only had Moderna, so I took what was available.

This morning I have a slight fever, and feel kinda achy, plus the sore arm, but it's not bad compared to my earlier reactions. I'll just putter around the yard today and tomorrow, only doing what I feel like doing. I imagine I'll be back to feeling good by Sunday or Monday.
Thanks for reporting on your experience. I am still chicken to get the Bivalent- it has been a year since my last booster- since the present Bivalent covers the old covid virus that initially hit our shores in March 2020, it is considered only partially effective against the variants that are present now because the "old" covid is no longer circulating. Nevertheless, I think it is a good idea to get the booster. I hope you feel better soon.
 
I got my second bivalent booster yesterday -- #6 covid shot in total.

My earlier bivalent shot was in November and it recently occurred to me how long ago that was.

I am fortunate to live in such a small town that I can usually arrange to only visit a store, restaurant, etc, when it's essentially empty, so I don't usually wear a mask when I go in. (In the bigger grocery store and drugstore in the county seat, I always still wear a mask.)

It's farmers market and tourist season now and places are more crowded, plus I've agreed to drive two friends to a city about 2 hours away in a few weeks, for the hip surgery one is having (and her spouse can't drive right now but will ride along). Friend's sister will drive them back home after surgery and stay to help during recovery, so I'm only needed to drive the one time. But still that's 2+ hours in a small enclosed space with two other people, so I decided this was a good time to boost my immunity.

I had far fewer side effects with the Pfizer shot last autumn than I did with all the earlier Moderna shots I got, so I was hoping I could get Pfizer again, but my County Public Health office only had Moderna, so I took what was available.

This morning I have a slight fever, and feel kinda achy, plus the sore arm, but it's not bad compared to my earlier reactions. I'll just putter around the yard today and tomorrow, only doing what I feel like doing. I imagine I'll be back to feeling good by Sunday or Monday.

ETA forgot to mention that officially only immunocompromised people or those over 64 are cleared for another booster. I'm not 64 yet so they asked me about a bunch of health issues that would qualify me, but other than slightly high cholesterol, I didn't have any. But when I mentioned that my mom is in skilled nursing, they gave me the ok to mark down "immunocompromised" and receive the shot. In my county hardly anyone gets the covid shots so there is no shortage, but perhaps elsewhere in the state they have to worry about not running out so limit who can get them. Silly if you ask me, but..
I'm glad you were able to get the booster and are having fairly minor reactions. When I got my shot last week, I was offered my choice of Pfizer or Moderna, and decided to go with Pfizer. I had a sore arm for a few days but no other reactions.
 
Thanks for reporting on your experience. I am still chicken to get the Bivalent- it has been a year since my last booster- since the present Bivalent covers the old covid virus that initially hit our shores in March 2020, it is considered only partially effective against the variants that are present now because the "old" covid is no longer circulating. Nevertheless, I think it is a good idea to get the booster. I hope you feel better soon.

Thanks for the kind thought.

The public health folks told me that the booster that will be available in the fall will be monovalent, aimed at the latest variants. I'll get that one as well.

Remember than the effectiveness of the vaccine apparently wanes after 4-5 months -- factor that in to your decisions about when to get what.
 
Thanks for the kind thought.

The public health folks told me that the booster that will be available in the fall will be monovalent, aimed at the latest variants. I'll get that one as well.

Remember than the effectiveness of the vaccine apparently wanes after 4-5 months -- factor that in to your decisions about when to get what.
Since I had my last booster one year ago I am pretty much assuming I have very little protection if any, though I do wonder if there is still some protection with the four shots I did have.
 
My apologies if this is a repeat but it's too good not to have a relisten if so. :) Whoever wrote these lyrics must have been in my head!!

*puts my foil hat back on just in case, muttering "see what happens when I take it off??"*


A big thanks to @JDG
 
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I am not a happy camper right now. I ordered free Covid tests on 5/5 to replace the old ones that had expired. They came with mere days before expiring on 6/7!!! And that's by checking for the "extended" expiration date!

If any of you weren't aware, the FDA was a website that you can search to see if there's an extended expiration date on your tests.


You'll need to scroll down the page past the text. There you'll see a Search box. Type in the brand name and hit enter.

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Then click on the link on the right side that takes you to that brand's list of expiry dates. The easiest thing to do next, since my brand had 15 pages, with thousands of lots to go through, it to search for your lot number using Ctrl-F (or however you search a page).

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@Gemmie last year I asked my county public health department about the reliability of home tests that were expired.

She told me that as long as the C/control line appeared, the test was still good.

Of course we know home tests have some uncomfortably high rate of false negatives, but that isn't related to whether they are past their expiration date or not.

I have no source to cite so MOO, but I found that information helpful.
 
@Gemmie last year I asked my county public health department about the reliability of home tests that were expired.

She told me that as long as the C/control line appeared, the test was still good.

Of course we know home tests have some uncomfortably high rate of false negatives, but that isn't related to whether they are past their expiration date or not.

I have no source to cite so MOO, but I found that information helpful.
Do you know if they meant they were still good after checking and getting an extended expiration date? Or if they meant they last longer than the date printed on the package, which they do. Hence the FDA making that website I shared that helps folks know what the extended expiry dates are.

Either way, dates are just a magic number, the same like they put on food. I eat food WAY past the date on the package and have had no problems. It's usually about texture and taste, not that it's gone bad once the magic date rolls around. I used to work with a gal that thought you got cancer if you ate any food past the date on the package!! I was like... huh??? She's like... "You don't?". Nope, ya don't.

So I'm thinking these will be good even paste the extended expiration date. But I hoped for something fresher as I likely wouldn't need to test this year, and likely not next year either. But I'm thinking they've likely gone bad if I'm wanting to test over a year from now. :( Oh well.
 
Do you know if they meant they were still good after checking and getting an extended expiration date? Or if they meant they last longer than the date printed on the package, which they do. Hence the FDA making that website I shared that helps folks know what the extended expiry dates are.

Either way, dates are just a magic number, the same like they put on food. I eat food WAY past the date on the package and have had no problems. It's usually about texture and taste, not that it's gone bad once the magic date rolls around. I used to work with a gal that thought you got cancer if you ate any food past the date on the package!! I was like... huh??? She's like... "You don't?". Nope, ya don't.

So I'm thinking these will be good even paste the extended expiration date. But I hoped for something fresher as I likely wouldn't need to test this year, and likely not next year either. But I'm thinking they've likely gone bad if I'm wanting to test over a year from now. :( Oh well.
I don't know the answer to your question. They certainly didn't say anything about extended expiration dates. In fact she didn't mention expiration dates at all, although she was responding to my question about whether they should be used after the indicated date.

She only mentioned how the test device itself, when used, would show whether it was still good.
 
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I had to cut some out out to stay within the 10% rule. More info at source link below.

People spread the virus that causes Covid-19 to wild white-tailed deer in the United States more than 100 times in late 2021 and early 2022.

coronavirus lineages such as Alpha, Delta and Omicron continued to circulate in deer after they’d left the human population.

the study suggests that these animals could become a long-term reservoir, allowing the virus to hide out and develop new and potentially more dangerous mutations.

Scientists fear that those viruses could then jump back into the human population and spark another severe wave, as they did when Omicron arrived seemingly out of the blue. Although that scenario is concerning, it’s still largely theoretical.


 
Oh noooo...

Fears feline coronavirus might be on the way after 300,000 cats die in Cyprus

(...)

Stray and domestic cats have been killed by feline infectious peritonitis (FIP), a coronavirus strain, since January. Experts have warned that “many cats” could die if the virus circulating in Cyprus makes its way to western Europe.

The country, sometimes called the “island of cats”, is home to the earliest evidence of the animal’s domestication. But there is mounting unease about the threat posed by the virus, which does not infect humans, but is mostly fatal if left untreated in felines.

“Local veterinarians have been reporting an alarming increase in FIP cases, which started in the capital city of Nicosia in January and spread throughout the whole island within three to four months,” said Dr Demetris Epaminondas, vice-president of the Pancyprian Veterinary Association.

(...)

Professor Danielle Gunn-Moore, a specialist in feline medicine at the University of Edinburgh, told the Telegraph that an outbreak of this size “has never been seen in living or documented history”, with reports of dead cats in the streets and suspicions this could be a new, deadlier strain of FIP.

(...)

Dr Epaminondas said the “only way to stop the disease is medical treatment”, but this too has proved difficult. Experts want to start using two treatments on the cats, but bureaucratic hurdles and cost have so far hampered progress.

The drugs are remdesivir, used for Covid-19, and the closely related GS-441524.

(...)

 
Oh noooo...

Fears feline coronavirus might be on the way after 300,000 cats die in Cyprus

(...)

Stray and domestic cats have been killed by feline infectious peritonitis (FIP), a coronavirus strain, since January. Experts have warned that “many cats” could die if the virus circulating in Cyprus makes its way to western Europe.

The country, sometimes called the “island of cats”, is home to the earliest evidence of the animal’s domestication. But there is mounting unease about the threat posed by the virus, which does not infect humans, but is mostly fatal if left untreated in felines.

“Local veterinarians have been reporting an alarming increase in FIP cases, which started in the capital city of Nicosia in January and spread throughout the whole island within three to four months,” said Dr Demetris Epaminondas, vice-president of the Pancyprian Veterinary Association.

(...)

Professor Danielle Gunn-Moore, a specialist in feline medicine at the University of Edinburgh, told the Telegraph that an outbreak of this size “has never been seen in living or documented history”, with reports of dead cats in the streets and suspicions this could be a new, deadlier strain of FIP.

(...)

Dr Epaminondas said the “only way to stop the disease is medical treatment”, but this too has proved difficult. Experts want to start using two treatments on the cats, but bureaucratic hurdles and cost have so far hampered progress.

The drugs are remdesivir, used for Covid-19, and the closely related GS-441524.

(...)


Wow, that's terrible! In the last six months, 300,000 cats have died in Cyprus. What is the bureaucracy that is preventing treatment? They need lots of remdesivir quickly.

Heartbreaking news for all who love cats.
 
Wow, that's terrible! In the last six months, 300,000 cats have died in Cyprus. What is the bureaucracy that is preventing treatment? They need lots of remdesivir quickly.

Heartbreaking news for all who love cats.
I know. It's so sad and so scary.

Some additional info from the article about why this is difficult to treat and control in Cyprus...

“We have lost 300,000 cats since January from FIP,” said Dinos Ayiomamitis, head of Cats PAWS Cyprus and vice-president of Cyprus Voice for Animals.

The island’s feline population is estimated at around one million.

Mr Ayiomamitis said part of the challenge around counting cases was that, with so many strays living across Cyprus, diagnosing and documenting every infection was almost impossible.

(...)

Although it [the antiviral drug] is approved for use in animals in the UK, and for importation into Cyprus, it is expensive – between €2,900 and €7,000 for a cat weighing between 3kg and 4kg.
 
I know. It's so sad and so scary.

Some additional info from the article about why this is difficult to treat and control in Cyprus...

“We have lost 300,000 cats since January from FIP,” said Dinos Ayiomamitis, head of Cats PAWS Cyprus and vice-president of Cyprus Voice for Animals.

The island’s feline population is estimated at around one million.

Mr Ayiomamitis said part of the challenge around counting cases was that, with so many strays living across Cyprus, diagnosing and documenting every infection was almost impossible.

(...)

Although it [the antiviral drug] is approved for use in animals in the UK, and for importation into Cyprus, it is expensive – between €2,900 and €7,000 for a cat weighing between 3kg and 4kg.

I would hope that animal organizations and others would share the costs of providing the antiviral drug they need in Cyprus to treat the cats, but also given that Cyprus is an island, I would think that they would be able to prevent FIP from spreading. They can stop animals from entering Cyprus and stop animals from leaving. I know there are quite a few countries that don't allow dogs or cats into their countries as they are rabies-free countries and are closed to dogs and cats entering (e.g. Australia). And some countries have very strict laws about dogs and cats leaving the country and require vet checks, etc. IIRC, Cyprus is partially Greece and partially Turkey, so both these governments could pass immigraton and emigration laws to keep current cats in Cyprus and prevent other cats from entering.

I hope international veteranarian groups are getting together on this to help these cats with both costs and other issues.

edited for spelling and typos
 
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