Would you have a link to that Ch 4 prog please dotr. Googled it but cannot find it tonight. TIA
Sorry was posting an older link, should have specified that.Would you have a link to that Ch 4 prog please dotr. Googled it but cannot find it tonight. TIA
In my opinion, the BBC News article explains it all. There is no serial killer, just some very dangerous paths and a lot of (drunk) young men who try to pee into the canal and fall in.
In my opinion, the BBC News article explains it all. There is no serial killer, just some very dangerous paths and a lot of (drunk) young men who try to pee into the canal and fall in. It's very sad and the barriers around the canal need improving, but there's no serial killer. Manchester doesn't have an unusually high number of canal deaths for an area of its size. Most of the canal deaths can be easily explained. Even with the open verdicts, most of these were not suspicious. From the pictures you can see how dangerous is is. No barriers, no lighting, nothing to stop people losing their footing and falling.
Plus, well, it would be a pretty bad place to be a serial killer. Whilst it is very dark, most of the canal has properties overlooking it. It would be easy to get caught if there really was someone pushing this number of people in. Rumours of a serial killer, in my opinion, just make people paranoid. On the other hand, it has raised awareness of the issue and safety measures are trying to be introduced. And maybe it'll make some people less likely to walk by the canal alone, which means less accidents. That's at least one good thing to come from these rumours.
There's a saying in medicine: "When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses not zebras." Likewise, when you see tragic statistics, think accident before you jump all the way to 'serial killer'.
MOO of course.
All good points, and let's not forget that if there IS a serial killer he must have a 100% success rate otherwise there'd be dozens of reports by people who survived.
Case closed?
One case of a cyclist being pushed in the canal does not a serial killer make.
I still don't believe it. Just because one family you know said there's more to it doesn't really mean anything. An ex police officer with a huge amount of experience probably knows better than any of us.
Like I said in my previous comment, Manchester does not have an unusual amount of canal deaths for a city of its size. Especially considering how dangerous the canals are. The only reason it seems like a lot is because the media started to focus on it, because of these rumours.
I hate to repeat myself but the canals are dark, no barriers, narrow. They are very dangerous even when you're sober. We know from plenty of other cases across the world that it's very common for young men to seek out bodies of water to pee in when drunk. It would be very easy to lose your step there when drunk and fall in. As I also said previously, they'd be very bad places to kill someone. Most of the canal has properties overlooking them and it would be easy for such a person to get caught. And as previously said, if there really was a serial killer doing this, there would be survivors who managed to get themselves out and report being pushed. There's only one reported case of someone being pushed in, and that happened after all the hysteria - and he also wasn't very good at it, since the person didn't die. I'd suggest it was a copycat, who attacked because of all these perpetuated rumours, instead of having caused them.
Unfortunately a youtube documentary isn't evidence. There are some interesting points in it, but ultimately, nothing that can't be explained by all these deaths being tragic accidents. There's just no real evidence to the contrary. Pushing people into canals wasn't Sinaga's MO. An evil person, for sure, but there's nothing to suggest he's a serial killer.
All MOO.
I still don't believe it. Just because one family you know said there's more to it doesn't really mean anything. An ex police officer with a huge amount of experience probably knows better than any of us.
Like I said in my previous comment, Manchester does not have an unusual amount of canal deaths for a city of its size. Especially considering how dangerous the canals are. The only reason it seems like a lot is because the media started to focus on it, because of these rumours.
I hate to repeat myself but the canals are dark, no barriers, narrow. They are very dangerous even when you're sober. We know from plenty of other cases across the world that it's very common for young men to seek out bodies of water to pee in when drunk. It would be very easy to lose your step there when drunk and fall in. As I also said previously, they'd be very bad places to kill someone. Most of the canal has properties overlooking them and it would be easy for such a person to get caught. And as previously said, if there really was a serial killer doing this, there would be survivors who managed to get themselves out and report being pushed. There's only one reported case of someone being pushed in, and that happened after all the hysteria - and he also wasn't very good at it, since the person didn't die. I'd suggest it was a copycat, who attacked because of all these perpetuated rumours, instead of having caused them.
Unfortunately a youtube documentary isn't evidence. There are some interesting points in it, but ultimately, nothing that can't be explained by all these deaths being tragic accidents. There's just no real evidence to the contrary. Pushing people into canals wasn't Sinaga's MO. An evil person, for sure, but there's nothing to suggest he's a serial killer.
All MOO.
Never in my (almost) 50 years of life have I ever known any Male, young or old or drunk or stone cold sober to 'search out' a 'body of water' to pee in!!!! A tree? Yes, bushes? Yes, a wall or alleyway? Yes .. a body of water, to pee in never.