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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7.I would imagine that to be more like their living environment, I think living arrangements would be about the way they lived, things... -
porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7.Enough of baby Jesus for me. Bethlehem can and does have snow and CM just forgot to add that he also suffered from hypothermia lying in...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7.From the Argus coverage to-day. complaint/defence from CM under questioning. "Police will pile up charges and they like to prosecute."...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7.I don't this this will do her any good at all. And SS will want all of their names!
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7.CM “I don’t think being in the tent was the wrong thing to do, I think me being exhausted and sitting up at that time was very...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7.Very revealing. She is talking from a distance like a textbook. The spoken word would be more like, 'When I realised Victoria had died I...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7.I think that's an interesting idea. I think he is the one in charge, and using a 'sort of' gaslighting perhaps. So perhaps feeding her...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6.I'll bet her defence are really thrilled.
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6.I don't think it would have been CM who wanted the money for herself. If it was for someone else that could explain the unpaid rent etc.
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6.I'm sure that if CM or her defence had requested them to do so, they would have willingly explained how they would like to have saved...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6.I wonder if this is the reason for having more children, and why they were so loved? The first one increased her income from £50 to £500...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6.I think there could be reasons, and that the driver 'didn't see' doesn't seem sufficiently robust for me to think that there was no...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6.This has made me think about the age of the placenta/birth, together with the possible (we are told) age of the baby at death. It seems...
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porkypies replied to the thread UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6.I was particularly taken with him lying down on the floor then complaining that he was fed up of 'being looked down on'. But...
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