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Old 10-14-2006, 09:43 PM
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Linda and Lori Peugeot, kidnapped 1969

Linda and Lori Peugeot were kidnapped from a shopping center September 1969 in Maryland by prison escapee Stanley Hoss. He was later apprehended and confessed to killing Linda and Lori. They have never been found.
http://216.15.229.16/news/full_story.cfm?story_id=16609
A book is being written by Jim Hollock about Stanley Hoss' crimes and each of his victims lives.
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:50 PM
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MD - Linda Peugeot, 21, & Lori Peugeot, 2, LaVale, 22 Sept 1969

Linda Peugeot
Missing since September 22, 1969 from LaVale, Cumberland County, Maryland
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics
Age at Time of Disappearance: 21 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'0"; 96 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
Clothing: Light blue sweater; bellbotton slacks with shoulder straps and a black and white checked blouse.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Linda and her baby daughter Lori Peugeot were last seen on September 22, 1969 in LaVale, MD.

The two were allegedly kidnapped and murdered by Stanley B. Hoss Jr., a convicted cop-killer who grabbed the mother and daughter in the parking lot of the former King’s Department Store in LaVale on September 22, 1969.

Linda Peugeot was a waitress at Warner’s. The bodies were never recovered.

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If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Cumberland County Sheriff's Office


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Old 10-30-2006, 08:08 AM
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Some folks believe this might be Sharon Marshall and her mother...
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Old 11-23-2006, 02:02 PM
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We have been doing alot of research on this possibility.
http://officialcoldcaseinvestigations.com/index.php
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:23 PM
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Is the father of this little girl still alive and if so they could do a DNA test between Sharon Marshall and him. Also does anybody know where this guy was in prison and if he ever had any connection with FDF while in prison. I know it says that he was found with their car. But I think it is worth looking into because that little girl looks so to much like Sharon.
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:31 PM
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FDF Crimes timeline

Floyd's crime timeline
1960 - Breaks into a Sears store in Los Angeles to steal a gun. The alarm goes off and he gets arrested. He is subsequently placed in a youth facility in Preston.
1961 - Was on parole for the break in when he violates his parole by going to Alaska on a camping trip with fellow parolee James Marvin.
June 1962 - Abducts 4 year old from bowling alley and rapes her
July 1962 - Convicted of "Child Molestation" and sentenced to 20 years
March 1963 - Escapes from mental facility where he was sent for evaluation and subsequently robs a bank to supposedly get money to appeal his Child Molestation sentence. Was in a shoot out and shot in the stomach. He survived the operation.
July 1963 - Was sentenced to 15 years at Chillicothe Federal Reformatory in Ohio.
September 1963 - Tries to escape again by hotwiring a truck and crashing through a fence. Subsequently transferred to Lewisberg Pennsylvania.
June 1964 - Transferred to Springfield Missouri Medical Center for prisioners for evaluation
February 1965 - Transferred to Federal Penn in Marion Illionos.
February 1968 - Transferred back to Reidsville GA to finish rape sentence. Meets David Dial who is incarcerated for a drug offense.
November 1971 - Transferred to Federal Penn in Atlanta GA for the Escape Attempt from OH reformatory
November 1972 - Floyd is released to a halfway house
Late January or February 1973 - Attempts to kidnap a young woman from a gas station in Atlanta GA. Before his June court appearance, Floyd dissappears - it is later found out that he bunks with David Dial, assumes the alias Daniel Pittman and begins working for AVIS Car Rentals.

It's odd that Hoss and Floyd's patterns of crime were so similar.

Hoss's crime timeline
September 11, 1969Stanley Hoss, 26, of Tarentum, PA broke out of
the Allegheny County Workhouse in Pittsburgh PA
where he was serving time for a rape conviction

September 19, 1969 Gets pulled over in stolen vehicle. Murders
patrolman Joseph Zenella, 25 durng a traffic
stop in Verona PA.

September 21, 1969 Kidnaps a woman, 20 at a cemetery near her
home in Arnold, PA. He forced her to drive to
Wheeling, WV and released her. Steals a white
sports car. Drives to Cumberland MD

September 22, 1969 Abducts Linda,21 and Lori Mae Peugeot, 2, from a
dept store parking lot in Cumberland, MD

Steptember 19-23, 1969 sightings reported in WV, MD and OH where
held 2 women at gunpoint & carjacked them.

September 23, 1969 Stops at a Jay's Florist in Wellington, OH to
send a dozen yellow roses to Lucille his girlfriend of
Brokenridge PA. FBI in Steubenville OH said Hoss
was last seen heading West on US 40 with a
woman. Reports received (from ??) that Hoss
released the Peugeots but those reports were not
confirmed.

October 4, 1969 Captured in Waterloo, IA

I wonder why Hoss did not tell the autorities where Linda and Lori were if he was not able to be convicted of the crimes why did'nt he just tell. does anybody have any information on if he was asked and what his response was if any. thanks
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:18 AM
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Floyd's crime timeline...
February 1968 - Transferred back to Reidsville GA to finish rape sentence. Meets David Dial who is incarcerated for a drug offense.
November 1971 - Transferred to Federal Penn in Atlanta GA for the Escape Attempt from OH reformatory
November 1972 - Floyd is released to a halfway house...
Hoss's crime timeline...
September 22, 1969 Abducts Linda,21 and Lori Mae Peugeot, 2, from a
dept store parking lot in Cumberland, MD

Steptember 19-23, 1969 sightings reported in WV, MD and OH where
held 2 women at gunpoint & carjacked them.

September 23, 1969 ... Reports received (from ??) that Hoss
released the Peugeots but those reports were not
confirmed.

October 4, 1969 Captured in Waterloo, IA

I wonder why Hoss did not tell the autorities where Linda and Lori were if he was not able to be convicted of the crimes why did'nt he just tell. does anybody have any information on if he was asked and what his response was if any. thanks
Your timelines would seem to exclude Floyd from having anything to do with the abduction of Linda Peugeot and her daughter. But it seems very strange that they would have survived their time with the murderer Hoss, and then simply disappear of their own volition.

Hoss seems (in your timeline) to be a man on the run continually, and not someone who kidnapped the Peugeots for any purpose other than his own immediate intentions. Still, one wonders if perhaps he might have had a friend along route 40 with whom he might have left Linda and/or Lori as he fled westward.

To answer your question of why Hoss did not tell - Note that my first post states that Linda and Lori were ALLEGEDLY kidnapped and murdered by Hoss. That would mean that he was never tried/convicted of the crime.

My feeling is that he did not talk because then their bodies would have been found and that would be the evidence needed to convict him. There have been very few murder convictions without a body.

A kidnapping conviction might have been succussfully pursued by Maryland authorities, but it is likely that Pennsylvania authorities wanted him more because he had murdered the police officer.
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:14 AM
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Floyd's crime timeline
1961 - Was on parole for the break in when he violates his parole by going to Alaska on a camping trip with fellow parolee James Marvin.

March 1963 - Escapes from mental facility where he was sent for evaluation and subsequently robs a bank to supposedly get money to appeal his Child Molestation sentence. Was in a shoot out and shot in the stomach. He survived the operation.

The 1961 trip? I find it hard to believe Floyd and another con just spent some time camping. Anyone know of any missing or unidentified from this time period?

1963 -- Too bad he didn't die. Why'd they have to go and give him an operation?




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Old 12-13-2006, 11:28 AM
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The 1961 trip? I find it hard to believe Floyd and another con just spent some time camping. Anyone know of any missing or unidentified from this time period?
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/burr_ann.html Ann marie Burr ,it is said that Ted Bundy killed her but I don't think he did. I think it was a strange coincidence.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ins_karen.html Karen Tompkins
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:45 AM
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I put a few theories relating to this and the Sharon Marshall case in the Sharon Marshall thread.

I can't believe he started out in Allegheny County! I live there and this is the first I've heard of this story. Granted, I wasn't born at the time (I'm only 20 now), but after hearing about some other cases in the western PA area I'm surprised I never learned of this one. I also know several people from Verona, PA--I'll have to ask my close buddy from there if his folks ever heard the story (he wasn't born yet then).
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Old 12-14-2006, 01:55 AM
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Floyd's crime timeline


The 1961 trip? I find it hard to believe Floyd and another con just spent some time camping. Anyone know of any missing or unidentified from this time period?

1963 -- Too bad he didn't die. Why'd they have to go and give him an operation?



Mr. E, there was an 11 yr old girl named Karen Lynn Tomkins from Torrance CA that went missing in August 1961, the same month Floyd was released from the Preston Youth Correctional Facility, also in CA.
I contacted the Dept of Corrections to find the exact date of his release but they have not replied. If it was after 8/18/61 we can rule him out.
Karen has never been found.

The crimes he went to Preston for were committed in Los Angeles, literally over the tracks from Torrance -It is possible he went back to familiar territory upon his release. I dont believe his story about camping in Alaska either. What a great way to distance himself from any crimes in the L.A. area.

I spoke with a detective from the Torrance PD and he is working with the LAPD cold case detective in charge of Karen's case. Nothing new as of late. I guess it's time to call and bug them again.

I started a thread here on WS about Karen. The link is:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...+lynn+tompkins

Here is a link to her photo:
http://www.unsolved-crimes.com/tompkins.html


Anyone just joining the Sharon Marshall or Linda & Lori Mae Peugeot threads, it would be to your advantage to read the archived Sharon Marshall thread so we can proceed forward from where that thread left off. Many of the questions on this thread have been asked and answered there. Not that we couldn't all use a refresher course. The cases are both quite confusing.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:23 PM
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I received the following information from someone who is far more familiar with this case than I am.

Stanley Hoss committed 2 very brutal, disgusting rapes with a man named Richard Surdyk, and for those crimes, he was incarcerated.

He escaped with a man named Thomas Lubresky. They got a ride from a man Lubresky later identified as George Kane to the house of an invalid woman named Amanda Riddle. She gave them clothes and money.

After his subsequent capture, Hoss confessed to police that after he abducted Linda and Lori, he shot Linda Peugeot almost immediately in the side and in the head. She bled out in the trunk of the car. According to police, there were huge amounts of blood in the trunk.

Hoss stated that he drove baby Lori around the country with him for 6 days, the last sighting of her with Hoss was in Fairberry, Illinois.

Stanley Hoss' brother Harold Hoss was living in Chicago when this kidnapping occurred. Harold is also a convicted felon.

Stanley Hoss made 3 trips to Chicago during his run from justice.

Floyd went to the Chicago area and mailed his friend David a postcard from there in 1973, which is the time it was believed that he obtained Sharon.

Lori's birthday is 9/22/1967. Sharon's was always said to be 9/19/1967. Floyd always said Sharon's mother's name was Linda. Floyd has always stated that Sharon is not "missing".
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:26 PM
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Richard that is interesting. Has this info been sent to the Sharon Marshall investigators?
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:15 PM
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Richard that is interesting. Has this info been sent to the Sharon Marshall investigators?
It actually came from one of them.
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:57 PM
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I wonder if its possible to do a DNA test between Sharnon and Linda? This seems like a very promising lead.
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Old 12-15-2006, 04:02 PM
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It actually came from one of them.
So that means they are following this and maybe will do DNA testing?
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Old 12-15-2006, 04:15 PM
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I received the following information from someone who is far more familiar with this case than I am.

Stanley Hoss committed 2 very brutal, disgusting rapes with a man named Richard Surdyk, and for those crimes, he was incarcerated.

He escaped with a man named Thomas Lubresky. They got a ride from a man Lubresky later identified as George Kane to the house of an invalid woman named Amanda Riddle. She gave them clothes and money.

After his subsequent capture, Hoss confessed to police that after he abducted Linda and Lori, he shot Linda Peugeot almost immediately in the side and in the head. She bled out in the trunk of the car. According to police, there were huge amounts of blood in the trunk.

Hoss stated that he drove baby Lori around the country with him for 6 days, the last sighting of her with Hoss was in Fairberry, Illinois.

Stanley Hoss' brother Harold Hoss was living in Chicago when this kidnapping occurred. Harold is also a convicted felon.

Stanley Hoss made 3 trips to Chicago during his run from justice.

Floyd went to the Chicago area and mailed his friend David a postcard from there in 1973, which is the time it was believed that he obtained Sharon.

Lori's birthday is 9/22/1967. Sharon's was always said to be 9/19/1967. Floyd always said Sharon's mother's name was Linda. Floyd has always stated that Sharon is not "missing".
Didn't Floyd say that he rescued Sharon from a bad situation, or something like that? Maybe he felt that taking Lori from this violent Hoss person was "rescuing" her.
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:00 PM
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So that means they are following this and maybe will do DNA testing?
If they can find the evidence box!!!
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If they can find the evidence box!!!
Sharon's or the Puegot's? i am sorry, I had quit following the Sharon Marshall case after it was locked and have been working on catching up on the new thread. I vaugley rememerb something about Sharon's blood being missing. Is there DNA on file for the Puegot's?
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:42 PM
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http://216.15.229.16/news/full_story.cfm?story_id=16609
This was interesting about Hoss, I am not sure if it has been posted or not.
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:16 AM
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http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/burr_ann.html Ann marie Burr ,it is said that Ted Bundy killed her but I don't think he did. I think it was a strange coincidence.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ins_karen.html Karen Tompkins
I was just going to post about Ann Marie Burr. If Floyd did make a trip to Alaska, Washington would have been on the way. I was originally looking at Ann as a possible connection to Sharon Marshall (similar to Karen Tompkins), but Ann seems a bit too young to be Sharon's mother.

I've posted about Lori Peugeot and Karen Tompkins on my Sharon Marshall MySpace page, as possible connections to her.
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Sharon's or the Puegot's? i am sorry, I had quit following the Sharon Marshall case after it was locked and have been working on catching up on the new thread. I vaugley rememerb something about Sharon's blood being missing. Is there DNA on file for the Puegot's?
They have been trying to locate the family. They believe the father is in PA, however, last I heard they are waiting till after Christmas to contact the family...
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:40 PM
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Hi, I am Gerald Peugeot's niece. Everything that needs to be done is being done. Every effort is being made by NCMEC to locate dna on Linda's side of the family and to have her and Lori entered into CODIS. After this is accomplished we will know if they are among the unidentified that are listed or if Lori is Sharon Marshall. Please, DO NOT CONTACT him. He is not wanting to speak to anyone except family and the few official persons who he has already had contact with.
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:24 PM
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Floyds Statement

Didn't Floyd also say that he took Sharon because she was with a man that was going to kill her? I think that was in Matts book. I am going to go back and look at the statements that Floyd made. How did they know that there was a letter sent to David that was postmarked from Chicago? and also do they know what was in the letter?
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So is it a possibility that Lori is Sharon Marshall? I need to do more reading on SM there is so much info on her thread.
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