Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #21

[CuriousKat99]

Yes and dont forget that DdeH did the same thing with her name / names

AND her parents death certs have VERY ODD abbreviations of family names

I personally believe that IF the day ever comes that SL writes the whole truth of the deH family, most of us will be completely shocked and surprised at what has been uncovered,
While most things are of no surprise anymore given he has over 50 aliases, the truth throughout his life will be out of the park

IMO
JMO

100%. Seemingly accidental typos everywhere he’s been, add to that the changes in names & addresses shortly after each event. Got his trademark MO stamped all over them if only the police cared to investigate thoroughly. It’s just the tip of the iceberg

 

[Kie22]

Happy New Year to all on this forum!
Let's hope justice is achieved for SL in 2024....

 

[KiwiNZ]

That’s correct, the FNMR QLD drivers licence had the gender as male as well as the extra ‘a’ in Natalia as you have noted. Both ‘typos’ would lessen the likelihood that anybody would be able to match the record should they ever try to search, just like the extra space in Remakel in the lonely hearts ad in 1994.

IMO he took that license from her or collected it before she noticed the "male" otherwise she likely would have alerted them to the mistake and had it corrected

 

[mishy66]

IMO he took that license from her or collected it before she noticed the "male" otherwise she likely would have alerted them to the mistake and had it corrected

Agree 100%

 

[mishy66]

IMO he took that license from her or collected it before she noticed the "male" otherwise she likely would have alerted them to the mistake and had it corrected

"Oh my Chérie Amour they have made a mistake on your licence. Let me take it now, I have a friend who can take care of it for you".

I can just imagine him saying this to poor Marion.

 

[mishy66]

AH remember your friends Deprez and TROOSTERS, when you all stole the loot from schools and copper from the construction sites and got caught IN THE MID 50'S ?

I was reacquainting myself with your old mate Troosters and found like you, he was a criminal all his life too!
You all worked throughout a decade fleecing the community - In the provinces of Liège and Brabant, they were all known as the Handbag Bandits and the Motorbike Killers, who specialised in vehicle and handbag thefts amongst other crimes.

Troosters and his mate Otte along with a band of thieves including children from the age of 13 spent years terrorising women and breaking into businesses and shops - one of them; Lesuisse stabbed to death his wife while she worked in a cafe and another by the name of Kaszuba, a polish man, together with Leclercq ( theres that name again! - connected to the renov construct dodgy company and family) and up to 15 other criminals, stole safes, money and jewels which they then split the profits to another criminal named Tassin under his dodgy 2nd hand business. But greed got the better of them and they all sold each other out....Tassin "the Papa" of the business has a long rap sheet

I'll keep reading, see what else I find

 

[Brown Alleycat]

AH remember your friends Deprez and TROOSTERS, when you all stole the loot from schools and copper from the construction sites and got caught IN THE MID 50'S ?

I was reacquainting myself with your old mate Troosters and found like you, he was a criminal all his life too!
You all worked throughout a decade fleecing the community - In the provinces of Liège and Brabant, they were all known as the Handbag Bandits and the Motorbike Killers, who specialised in vehicle and handbag thefts amongst other crimes.

Troosters and his mate Otte along with a band of thieves including children from the age of 13 spent years terrorising women and breaking into businesses and shops - one of them; Lesuisse stabbed to death his wife while she worked in a cafe and another by the name of Kaszuba, a polish man, together with Leclercq ( theres that name again! - connected to the renov construct dodgy company and family) and up to 15 other criminals, stole safes, money and jewels which they then split the profits to another criminal named Tassin under his dodgy 2nd hand business. But greed got the better of them and they all sold each other out....Tassin "the Papa" of the business has a long rap sheet

I'll keep reading, see what else I find

Great work Mishy. I always look forward to see what your research has unearthed!
Interesting to see that he was up to no good in the province of Brabant! I have just finished watching the series "1985" which is about the "Brabant Killers" which terrorised Belguim 1982-1985. There has been some speculation if there is any link between AH and this gang, especially as one of the members of this gang has been described as "The Giant" and one that has a limp (not sure if this was The Giant or another member of the gang). I did a double take when I saw that during one of their attacks that happened on 7th October, 1983 in Beersel the get-away car had a sticker on the back window that said "I ❤ Australia". As this car was stolen shortly before the crime it is probably purely coincidental. Interestingly though, AH was, at the time of the Brabant Killer crimes of 1983-1985, living I believe in Burwash UK and owned a van which would drive off at odd hours and return many hours later. Up to no good then too I wouldn't doubt.
Keep up the excellent researching Mishy!

 

[Martinie]

Do we have any pics of AH in 1982-1985? I had a google, but couldn't find many pics at all. I was looking at an article where they have a photo of a suspect (might not even be him) but thought it was worth having a looksie. I also compared his newspaper pic with ilona to the sketches of the gang and no 8 kinda looks similar to him when he was younger...

 

[Martinie]

Do we have any pics of AH in 1982-1985? I had a google, but couldn't find many pics at all. I was looking at an article where they have a photo of a suspect (might not even be him) but thought it was worth having a looksie. I also compared his newspaper pic with ilona to the sketches of the gang and no 8 kinda looks similar to him when he was younger...

I know we've been over this part of the case before, but I thought it'd be good to have another look and see what else can be found

 

[mishy66]

Great work Mishy. I always look forward to see what your research has unearthed!
Interesting to see that he was up to no good in the province of Brabant! I have just finished watching the series "1985" which is about the "Brabant Killers" which terrorised Belguim 1982-1985. There has been some speculation if there is any link between AH and this gang, especially as one of the members of this gang has been described as "The Giant" and one that has a limp (not sure if this was The Giant or another member of the gang). I did a double take when I saw that during one of their attacks that happened on 7th October, 1983 in Beersel the get-away car had a sticker on the back window that said "I ❤ Australia". As this car was stolen shortly before the crime it is probably purely coincidental. Interestingly though, AH was, at the time of the Brabant Killer crimes of 1983-1985, living I believe in Burwash UK and owned a van which would drive off at odd hours and return many hours later. Up to no good then too I wouldn't doubt.
Keep up the excellent researching Mishy!

Yes Im also convinced he ran with this pack.
I think another slueth dived into the giant and it wasnt AH.

I had posted up a while ago a blog about them all with photographs but it was removed.
It was when a victims family had commented that their relative was convinced AH was a member of the pack.

When I was reading about his mate Troosters and another criminal friend Otte, I was floored by so many of the similarities and connections- he certainly had many contacts IMO

 

[mishy66]

Do we have any pics of AH in 1982-1985? I had a google, but couldn't find many pics at all. I was looking at an article where they have a photo of a suspect (might not even be him) but thought it was worth having a looksie. I also compared his newspaper pic with ilona to the sketches of the gang and no 8 kinda looks similar to him when he was younger...

That photo with IK isnt AH.
Thats Michael Reid. - And yeah he does look like No8.....

A few here think AH looks like No 9
I dont think he is in the lineup myself

 

[Martinie]

That photo with IK isnt AH.
Thats Michael Reid.

And yeah he does look like No8

A few here think AH looks like No 9
I dont think he is in the lineup myself

Aahhh ok. I was wondering why it didn't really look like him, but i know there was a pic of him in a newspaper somewhere?? it just came up under RB in google with no further info. I'm trying to find relevant pics to that time period and comparing them.

 

[CuriousKat99]

Aahhh ok. I was wondering why it didn't really look like him, but i know there was a pic of him in a newspaper somewhere?? it just came up under RB in google with no further info. I'm trying to find relevant pics to that time period and comparing them.

You may be thinking of this one published in the Luxemburger Wort taken from an old black & white advertisement for the ‘furniture’ business he was running.

 

[Martinie]

You may be thinking of this one published in the Luxemburger Wort taken from an old black & white advertisement for the ‘furniture’ business he was running.

It was that one. I'm really sick and while Googling I mistook the other pic for this one as there was no info on the pics ‍ My bad.

 

[Knitty]

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