Patty G
Retired WS Staff
The rooms are labeled from the floorplan that LE was using. That's all I had to go by. :waitasec:
I thought that floor plan was generated by the media. LE hasn't released anything with regards to what they are using.
The rooms are labeled from the floorplan that LE was using. That's all I had to go by. :waitasec:
She's a pretty 20-something young girl...not exactly the type that's going to investigate things outside her home in the middle of the night (for her). We all come from a different frame of reference than these young people do. It was Saturday morning, she may have been out late the night before.
I am most certainly not a pretty twenty-something girl, but I live in a small, intown apartment building in a residential neighborhood.
In other words, the neighborhood is quiet, and my apartment complex is small with a common courtyard that has pool and fountains.
But I can hear my neighbor's conversations taking place on their patios, even if I am inside. And this is with the fountains running and people in the pool.
I have also heard dogs barking and sometimes louder than normal voices, and never once have I gotten up to check.
The neighbor said the voices were not loud or frantic. And the dogs were ALWAYS barking. I wouldn't have spied out my window either, but probably grumbled and pulled a pillow over my head.
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ok...but come on...do we really think that a dectective is going to tell their big mouthed untrustworthy wife a key piece of evidence taken from the scene of a crime????
really?
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ok...but come on...do we really think that a dectective is going to tell their big mouthed untrustworthy wife a key piece of evidence taken from the scene of a crime????
really?
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Well, I agree with LE not doing that, but......
What if the cleaning crew had been the ones to initially find some message written on the closet wall, and they tipped off LE.
I can totally see one of the cleaning crew telling a cousin, who told a neighbor, etc.
I really don't put too much value on this "message" thing, anyhoo, but wanted to weigh in on how a leak might have happened. . JMO
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One way a perp could have gotten Isa out with out waking anyone or Isa screaming is if he cloroformed her, knocked her out while he got her out.
In order for this all to work to believe a stranger took Isa, many assumptions have to be made:
1. we have to believe three dogs didn't bark
2. we have to believe the stranger knew where Isa slept (if her curtains were closed)
3. we have to assume Isa didn't put up a fight.
4. we have to assume the brothers never heard a thing
5. we have to assume sergio and rebecca both sleep very soundly.
6. we have to assume if the dogs did bark, not one member of the house heard them.
7. we have to assume CPS is just separating sergio for stupid reasons.
8. we have to assume the 911 call was just a fluke and sergio is a cool cucumber.
9. we have to assume the neighbor is wrong about voices and barking dogs because no criminal would abduct in the wake of dawn.
10. we have to assume the parents passed a poly.
11. we have to assume the "Hit" was a scent dog hit of a stranger; not a cadaver dog hit.
See, in order to fit a stranger, we would have to make all these assumptions and, imo, we can't base a theory of stranger abduciton and elimate the parents on this many assumptions.
If it were not locked.
The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children recently changed Isabel's case from endangered missing to non family abduction.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...en_US&orgPrefix=NCMC&caseNum=1193092&seqNum=1
Is this something they do at the advice of LE or is it at their discretion based on information in the media?
Then we have the FBI website that is also quite confusing because we have Hailey Dunn listed as a kidnapping but Haleigh Cummings, Lindsay Baum, Aliyah Lunsford, Kyrion Horman and other children listed as missing persons.
What does it all mean? Is missing person considered possible family involvement? Is kidnapping considered non family involvement? Or am I making too much of the labelling and it really doesn't make a difference?
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/@@wanted-group-listing
One thing is for sure, it becomes very frustrating and sad that so many of these cases that we followed...some for months....others for years, remain unresolved and these children are still "missing".
I saw it listed that way very early on. We even had discussions about it listing 'non family abduction.'
I think LE knows that the parents know where she is and that she is not alive.
JMO...
Most of those gates can be opened from the inside with a latch, but not from the outside. It's not a lock exactly. He could have climbed over the wall, entered through the window but exited through the gate.
That is really possible! If you choose to google the supposed contents of the note you will find that two different people claim LE told them this, so we would have not one but two leaks of the same information.
I do think the "note" is known by reporters and is real, but they've been asked to keep it quiet?
In order for this all to work to believe a stranger took Isa, many assumptions have to be made:
1. we have to believe three dogs didn't bark
2. we have to believe the stranger knew where Isa slept (if her curtains were closed)
3. we have to assume Isa didn't put up a fight.
4. we have to assume the brothers never heard a thing
5. we have to assume sergio and rebecca both sleep very soundly.
6. we have to assume if the dogs did bark, not one member of the house heard them.
7. we have to assume CPS is just separating sergio for stupid reasons.
8. we have to assume the 911 call was just a fluke and sergio is a cool cucumber.
9. we have to assume the neighbor is wrong about voices and barking dogs because no criminal would abduct in the wake of dawn.
10. we have to assume the parents passed a poly.
11. we have to assume the "Hit" was a scent dog hit of a stranger; not a cadaver dog hit.
See, in order to fit a stranger, we would have to make all these assumptions and, imo, we can't base a theory of stranger abduciton and elimate the parents on this many assumptions.
How do we know it's not the same person posting in two different places?
The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children recently changed Isabel's case from endangered missing to non family abduction.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...en_US&orgPrefix=NCMC&caseNum=1193092&seqNum=1
Is this something they do at the advice of LE or is it at their discretion based on information in the media?
Then we have the FBI website that is also quite confusing because we have Hailey Dunn listed as a kidnapping but Haleigh Cummings, Lindsay Baum, Aliyah Lunsford, Kyrion Horman and other children listed as missing persons.
What does it all mean? Is missing person considered possible family involvement? Is kidnapping considered non family involvement? Or am I making too much of the labelling and it really doesn't make a difference?
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/@@wanted-group-listing
One thing is for sure, it becomes very frustrating and sad that so many of these cases that we followed...some for months....others for years, remain unresolved and these children are still "missing".