Good morning all. While I can agree that the same and correct answer can be derived from opposite significators or houses, it is dependent upon one side being read as a reflection and the other side as a projection. The problem comes with pinpointing location and direction. Each side of an axis will point to quite a different place. When two people face off they are facing opposite directions. You can only determine the movements by correctly identifying significators, which is the hardest task in mundane or horary astrology. The JFK assassination is one good example. Out of the dozen or so charts I've been working with where exact details are known, that one is the only one that I have to read direction exactly opposite. One assumption I might come to there is that it was more premeditated than any of the other charts I've been working with. Much more research will need to be done in this area as this is the only one of my group of charts being studied that doesn't involve a missing person, which may usually be more spontaneous rather than premeditated. But I was able to exactly pinpoint the distance by road and direction by reversing the JFK chart, the others by reading them straight. The other reason for reversal may be that the perpetrator sees themselves as the victim when in fact they are projecting themselves onto the victim, seeing them as the perp. If that is the case, the psychological state of the person would need to be determined before the direction of movement could be correctly determined. It could very well be that Oswald was out of body, seeing himself from outside, as when the spirit has departed. He was only a couple days away from his own death so it is highly likely spirit had made the exit.
As for the question regarding the best or correct chart to use, to randomly choose other times would lead many different directions. We could look at when the video/
picture of Caylee was taken the day before, which I have looked at. In looking at this photo, I think I see her God light still present. But I'm not as good as others at seeing. If so, it would indicate she hadn't left her body and if she died soon after, it was an accident.
This chart, June 15, 12:03:27 pm also has Pisces ruling the descendant. This chart could be read, using the 7th as the subject of the photo being taken and the 9th as the granddaughter. This makes sense to since Venus rules the grand child and is exalted in Pisces which also fits her being the natural ruler of that house.
At this point, things are changeable and unstable, mutable signs ruling the angles. But there is a fixed t-square that is not changeable. The fixed laws of the universe come into play here. We can't avoid the law of gravity, any more than we can keep the Sun from rising tomorrow. Moon is at a critical degree, as well as Mars when this picture is taken. This is the photo of Caylee sitting on Great Grandpa's lap on Father's day. The t-square shows the empty part falling in the house of the grandchild so simply could be pointing out this fixed record of the child, Taurus showing tangible value. The critical degrees can show crisis but this was a lovely time, not crisis. The critical degrees are where the Lunar mansions change. Moon, the reflection of Sol, has outgrown her current space and must move into more appropriate quarters. But, Moon here, opposite the grand daughter could be capturing the absence of Caylee, already at this point.
Moon's next major contact at this time is trine Uranus, again a potential accident. Then square Neptune at void. Now, Uranus rules the 12th of the 7th. This is the house of suicide not murder. There is no connection with Saturn ruling, Cindy's daughter, shown by the 5th. A self inflicted accident or suicide wouldn't directly involve other people. Scorpio is known to inflict pain upon self at times. I can't help but notice how often Pisces is showing up int the charts. Allowing Uranus and Neptune to trade signs, as they do when in mutual reception, we can see the potential for an accident by drowning or in water. But I'm not even sure this would be a simple drowning. It looks more like a potential electrical involvement, Aquarius and Gemini both being electrical in nature. Now, I see some 6th house type inconjuncts and activity also. The 6th house involves hygiene like taking a bath. Moon is making a waxing inconjunct to Sun and Venus, the grand daughter that is combust. Sun was recently waxing inconjunct Jupiter also. Sun could be music, a radio, Neptune could also. Mars is the natural ruler of the 8th, death, in the 6th of the photo subject, the 7th, and very near the fatal position of Moon's and nodes. The South node is the release point. Keep in mind that Mars rules the 12th of the grandchild. This release is less than a degree away. There are certain degrees that are said to be connected to suicide. One is the 26th degree of Gemini which is 25Gem01 to 26Gem. Sun is only 6 minutes away and Venus has just left there. Sun is Caley's ruler and Venus disposites her Moon. In fact, using a sunrise chart for Caylee, her 4Libra Moon is very near the turned 8th house here. The Arabic part of danger, here is at critical 17Gem high in the sky. The ruler Rx shows it is likely a repeated danger.
Again, if this isn't how it happened the other 6th house potential is a servant of some kind, someone that provides a service, like a nanny. I am not seeing death at the hands of the mother here. In fact there is no contact shown here between Moon and the potential rulers of mother of either 7th or 9th house Caylee. The same is true if we gave her the ascendant. Cindy's daughter is near crisis, Saturn being near critical 4Virgo, but that doesn't happen yet. Moon will square but not till after moving out of the sign of death. And we know she didn't return home till later that night. Perhaps we could cast a chart for the first call on her phone after she got back in that area for more of the story.
I'm sure this theory or reading won't be easily accepted but this is what I see here. I can more clearly see her in the grave, looking at her asteroid namesake, but I'll have to save that for a later time. Her natal Cayley sits on the midheaven but transiting is in the 4th of this chart, which is not only the grave, but the 8th of the 9th house.
Connie
What did she do with it? I'm sure it wasn't about a bamboo root at all. She was tripping alright -- just not over roots. Thanks!
