Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #2

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As these are separate cases, albeit lumped together in one trial, has any announcement been made regarding order of dealing with the various cases ?
 
Davieson said:
As these are separate cases, albeit lumped together in one trial, has any announcement been made regarding order of dealing with the various cases ?
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I'm not aware of any but logically- and jmo of course - I'd guess the judge wants the 2 unknown cases dealt with first because of the nature of the 'evidence' in these two cases, so the credibility of the witnessess (CB's criminal tabloid-spilling buddies) concerned can be tested and examined in order to highlight any discrepancies or anomalies in their testimonies.

If they emerge 'unscathed' from these two cases and are seen as credible, then their testimony may be allowed to impact the HaB case, the one - the only one really - at the epicentre of this trial. Just my thoughts.
 
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Anxala said:
I'm not aware of any but logically- and jmo of course - I'd guess the judge wants the 2 unknown cases dealt with first because of the nature of the 'evidence' in these two cases, so the credibility of the witnessess (CB's criminal tabloid-spilling buddies) concerned can be tested and examined in order to highlight any discrepancies or anomalies in their testimonies.

If they emerge 'unscathed' from these two cases and are seen as credible, then their testimony may be allowed to impact the HaB case, the one - the only one really - at the epicentre of this trial. Just my thoughts.
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May I ask - which 2 cases? I have all them identified by someone. i.e. 10 year German girl, 11 year old Portuguese girl, 70-80 year old woman, 14 year old & HazelB. TIA!
 
@Niner The two unknown victims, the ones allegedly seen on video - the elderly woman and the 14yr old girl, no names, no dates of attacks - for which no other evidence apart from the testimonies of HeB and MS exists.

The other three cases are identified known victims.
 
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Anxala said:
@Niner The two unknown victims, the ones allegedly seen on video - the elderly woman and the 14yr old girl, no names, no dates of attacks - for which no other evidence apart from the testimonies of HeB and MS exists.

The other three cases are identified known victims.
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Do both witnesses claim to have seen both taped attacks ?
 
Mex said:
I "remember" transferring analogue video tape to DVD in a work situation pre circa 2005.

At that time it was pretty basic and nothing like future editing suites became.

But memory being fallible, I checked it out and the technology was there in 2005. Anyone with an interest in producing and distributing video content as CB appears to have been would have gained access to whatever was relevant state of the art technology. Particularly if there was money to be made from it.


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2001: The digital cameras I bought for use at our UN Observation Post on Israel/Lebanon & Israel/Syrian borders were Canon (Powershot IIRC) ... and it was loaded with/recorded onto CDs.

It was a step up from the "old" camera which recorded onto floppy disc (also considered 'digital' and may have been the "Powershots").
 
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Denis R Tandib said:
That explains a few things. There is no story, the police visited a house, that’s it until JC gets onto it.

Love the below quote from HCW - like a comedian who will only tell the punchline; not the joke!

We don’t need to hear from the prosecutors, the witness will sell their story to MSM for a six-pack of Stella next week.

The publication contacted Mr Wolters for comment. He said: “We do not comment on possible witnesses or other details regarding the investigation into the Maddie case.”
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Fear not the red top have tracked him down and he's telling no body nothing , the paper or the BKA
 
Anxala said:
@Niner The two unknown victims, the ones allegedly seen on video - the elderly woman and the 14yr old girl, no names, no dates of attacks - for which no other evidence apart from the testimonies of HeB and MS exists.

The other three cases are identified known victims.
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Okay - thanks for that info. I shall correct my notes! :)
 
Vern said:
2001: The digital cameras I bought for use at our UN Observation Post on Israel/Lebanon & Israel/Syrian borders were Canon (Powershot IIRC) ... and it was loaded with/recorded onto CDs.

It was a step up from the "old" camera which recorded onto floppy disc (also considered 'digital' and may have been the "Powershots").
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My set up was definitely more 'Heath Robinson' than yours but DVD technology has been available on the domestic market since the early nineties when it was indicated the discs were indestructible. They weren't, but certainly more robust than tape.

Anyway - without a doubt, it would have been possible for CB to have had access to the technology circa 2005 and before. I don't have an exact date but I would certainly agree with your 2001.
 
Vern said:
2001: The digital cameras I bought for use at our UN Observation Post on Israel/Lebanon & Israel/Syrian borders were Canon (Powershot IIRC) ... and it was loaded with/recorded onto CDs.

It was a step up from the "old" camera which recorded onto floppy disc (also considered 'digital' and may have been the "Powershots").
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Perhaps he bought his setup from SM.
 
Anxala said:
I'm not aware of any but logically- and jmo of course - I'd guess the judge wants the 2 unknown cases dealt with first because of the nature of the 'evidence' in these two cases, so the credibility of the witnessess (CB's criminal tabloid-spilling buddies) concerned can be tested and examined in order to highlight any discrepancies or anomalies in their testimonies.

If they emerge 'unscathed' from these two cases and are seen as credible, then their testimony may be allowed to impact the HaB case, the one - the only one really - at the epicentre of this trial. Just my thoughts.
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On day three of the trial, Braunschweig state court heard from key witness MS, who claimed he once discovered videos of Christian B sexually assaulting two females.
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During extensive questioning by the judge and the defendant's lawyer, MS repeatedly claimed to not remember crucial details. His testimony also diverged from statements given at a trial in 2019, which saw CB be convicted of rape.

As the court session went on, defence lawyer FF asked the witness: "Do you suffer from Alzheimer's, or other diseases that affect memory?"
news.sky.com

Christian B trial: Madeleine McCann suspect 'seen on videos sexually assaulting woman and girl', court hears

Christian B is standing trial in Germany accused of three counts of rape and two of child sexual abuse. The prosecution claims the offences took place in Portugal between 2000 and 2017. The allegations do not relate to Madeleine's disappearance in 2007.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

I don't know what the procedure is in German courts regarding who does the summing up and when, although I think the prosecution is allowed the last word. But MS has said his piece for the court and his testimony will duly be considered.

My opinion - there is an inherent weakness in the case without identifiable witnesses who are not there to tell their story which is not the situation regarding the two with identified survivors who did and will testify on their own behalf.
DM was able to describe in detail what she was forced to endure. As is HB.
 
Mex said:
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On day three of the trial, Braunschweig state court heard from key witness MS, who claimed he once discovered videos of Christian B sexually assaulting two females.
...
During extensive questioning by the judge and the defendant's lawyer, MS repeatedly claimed to not remember crucial details. His testimony also diverged from statements given at a trial in 2019, which saw CB be convicted of rape.

As the court session went on, defence lawyer FF asked the witness: "Do you suffer from Alzheimer's, or other diseases that affect memory?"
news.sky.com

Christian B trial: Madeleine McCann suspect 'seen on videos sexually assaulting woman and girl', court hears

Christian B is standing trial in Germany accused of three counts of rape and two of child sexual abuse. The prosecution claims the offences took place in Portugal between 2000 and 2017. The allegations do not relate to Madeleine's disappearance in 2007.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

I don't know what the procedure is in German courts regarding who does the summing up and when, although I think the prosecution is allowed the last word. But MS has said his piece for the court and his testimony will duly be considered.

My opinion - there is an inherent weakness in the case without identifiable witnesses who are not there to tell their story which is not the situation regarding the two with identified survivors who did and will testify on their own behalf.
DM was able to describe in detail what she was forced to endure. As is HB.
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He's not exactly the most reliable witness is he. In the pictures he looked intoxicated to me..

This case has played on my mind alot...one of the things being they said he was a climber and that witness of HB saw a man climbing and yet the guys who stole the camcorder say it was one of those big old fashioned VHS types..
I just can't get a picture of him climbing up to an apartment with one of those old camcorders on his back... Then setting it all up ready for the rape and whatever ....I mean there is brash and there is taking the P brash

And that new video of the Sun newspaper harrassing the new person of interest is ridiculous... Why don't they just leave it to the detectives, The media have been all over this case and I'm starting to think it's outweighed the balance of this being a fair trial.
 
johnlair said:
He's not exactly the most reliable witness is he. In the pictures he looked intoxicated to me..

This case has played on my mind alot...one of the things being they said he was a climber and that witness of HB saw a man climbing and yet the guys who stole the camcorder say it was one of those big old fashioned VHS types..
I just can't get a picture of him climbing up to an apartment with one of those old camcorders on his back... Then setting it all up ready for the rape and whatever ....I mean there is brash and there is taking the P brash

And that new video of the Sun newspaper harrassing the new person of interest is ridiculous... Why don't they just leave it to the detectives, The media have been all over this case and I'm starting to think it's outweighed the balance of this being a fair trial.
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You are absolutely correct that there is far too much interference in the conduct of this case and the reason for that is self explanatory.

The 2019 rape trial which found CB guilty of aggravated rape was conducted with decorum because no-one knew of CB's association with another case.

Now that CB's cover has been blown, not even his lawyer is immune from being side-tracked. FF's day job of defending him against the five horrible cases he presently stands accused of could easily be compromised should he be beguiled into straying into territory which is nothing at all to do with those five indictments but something else entirely.

There is a case to be made that a prerequisite for an accused person receiving a fair trial is an adequate defence team giving full concentration to the matter in hand. At the moment I'm not sure they are doing that adequately.
 
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Maddie suspect Christian Brueckner's ally finally found

Christian Brueckner is currently on trial in Germany for charges unrelated to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
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So .. if .. as reported , this Ralph H. is an ex-associate of CB , he seems different from the other ones such as MT , He.B , MS ... they seem happy to talk about CB , but RH the opposite .. not wanting to talk .. one wonders why not ..
And RH does not seem to have been publicly mentioned by any of the " talking " associates .
 
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mrjitty said:
I get the feeling this trial isn't going to tell us anything about the MM case.
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It isn't intended to.
The trial is all about five separate sexual cases, not one of which has any relevance to the MM disappearance which is a different case entirely.
 
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