Thanks so much, oceanblueeyes. Wow, I didn't know any of this --except that you could be bleeding profusely and still have to wait at the ER. That makes sense about the blood test not coming back for a few hours. Thanks again.
Huckaby tied to January missing girl report
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Thanks so much, oceanblueeyes. Wow, I didn't know any of this --except that you could be bleeding profusely and still have to wait at the ER. That makes sense about the blood test not coming back for a few hours. Thanks again.
TY! Soon after posting this I noticed the other thread (very similar to this one) & probably should've used that thread instead?
I'll try to read some of it & definitely will read the news articles to catch up on what I've missed this past week.
Don't feel bad, it's confusing having 2 threads on this topic and it's hard to keep up with all the posts and news coming in.
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Prayers for Lora Polk and her daughter. Ms. Polk seems to be trying to turn her life around. MH is evil.
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A friend of mine suffered a broken wrist and went to the County Hospital ER, since he had no medical insurance. He sat there for four hours before a doctor saw him. That's how backed up they are these days.
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And I'll bet MH slept like a baby that night. :furious:
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The ER may have even checked the levels in the child's blood again after two hours to make sure the drug levels were going down. There was no mention of there being enough to consider an overdose, but I wonder... The child could have been given something at the beginning of the reported 4 hour kidnapping which wore off then was given another dose. Except the child does seem to remember going to 3 different parks but nothing after the ER visit or being detained by CPS.
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I'm seeing a different pattern here than I have noticed before.
Huckaby seems to target single mothers with daughters.
1. The single mother with the daughter who ended up in jail accused of arsen until a second fire was started while she was in jail. Huckaby was there. That mother said she had sent her young teen daughter to live with someone else 10 days before the fire, and that was one reason LE suspected her. What she didn't say was why she did that. Coincidence? Luck? Or did something frightening or suspicious cause her do that, something she hasn't mentioned?
2. The single mother with the 7 yr. old who came home from work to find her child missing, then returned by Huckaby with drugs in her system. That mother was humiliated and suspected, as well.
3. Now Sandra's mother, who was not living with Sandra's father, but the maternal family...and her child ends up drugged and dead. One has to wonder what that mother would have gone through had the family NOT had a CAMERA outside the home?
What an ironic gift with the tire-slashing...which is an unusual act of some kind of revenge, when you think of it. It's not like the criminal took anything away, like in a burglary; just the satisfaction of knowing he/she had caused the family a lot of fear, time, and money. Whoever did that ended up giving the Cantus a video which probably saved them from being suspects, as it gave LE a definite timeline and location for Sandra's disappearance.
So that's a pattern--that we know about: three single moms with daughters, like Huckaby, ending up with horrible events happening to them, two involving their little girls. And two of these mothers ended up being suspects.
Huckaby profiled her victims, didn't she? But the weird thing: she seems to have targeted the MOTHERS as much as the DAUGHTERS. She knew who to pick, who was vulnerable AS A PARENT.
LE should look at single mothers with daughters who had encounters with Huckaby in the last five years.
There go those chills again...hair standing up on the back of my neck....
Huckaby seems to target single mothers with daughters.
1. The single mother with the daughter who ended up in jail accused of arsen until a second fire was started while she was in jail. Huckaby was there. That mother said she had sent her young teen daughter to live with someone else 10 days before the fire, and that was one reason LE suspected her. What she didn't say was why she did that. Coincidence? Luck? Or did something frightening or suspicious cause her do that, something she hasn't mentioned?
2. The single mother with the 7 yr. old who came home from work to find her child missing, then returned by Huckaby with drugs in her system. That mother was humiliated and suspected, as well.
3. Now Sandra's mother, who was not living with Sandra's father, but the maternal family...and her child ends up drugged and dead. One has to wonder what that mother would have gone through had the family NOT had a CAMERA outside the home?
What an ironic gift with the tire-slashing...which is an unusual act of some kind of revenge, when you think of it. It's not like the criminal took anything away, like in a burglary; just the satisfaction of knowing he/she had caused the family a lot of fear, time, and money. Whoever did that ended up giving the Cantus a video which probably saved them from being suspects, as it gave LE a definite timeline and location for Sandra's disappearance.
So that's a pattern--that we know about: three single moms with daughters, like Huckaby, ending up with horrible events happening to them, two involving their little girls. And two of these mothers ended up being suspects.
Huckaby profiled her victims, didn't she? But the weird thing: she seems to have targeted the MOTHERS as much as the DAUGHTERS. She knew who to pick, who was vulnerable AS A PARENT.
LE should look at single mothers with daughters who had encounters with Huckaby in the last five years.
There go those chills again...hair standing up on the back of my neck....
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Did anyone ever find out what happened to Melissa Huckaby's mother?
I seem to have missed that. Her father has shown up, and people have asked what happened to MH's mother...but I missed it if that's been made public.
I'm wondering if Melissa was raised by her mother without her father, if they were divorced?
I seem to have missed that. Her father has shown up, and people have asked what happened to MH's mother...but I missed it if that's been made public.
I'm wondering if Melissa was raised by her mother without her father, if they were divorced?
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Good point.
Q - Did Sandra's grandparents live with her? I know I read that her grandfather was at the home the day she went missing. It would be interesting to find out, because if Sandra WAS living with her grandparents, that means MH, Sandra and Polk all lived with grandparents. Makes me go back to my theory that MH was abused by her grandfather, maybe it ties in to her pattern somehow. Just a thought anyways.
A few things I noticed in the article though:
1. If MH took the little girl to Wendys and gave her drugs in water it would have to be liquid drugs, or powder which would be absorbed much faster than a pill form. Since the PD found her at the park it would seem like she should have definitely been showing signs by then.
2. The PD say Polk had alcohol on her breath which she says is from 1 beer. I'm wondering what the time frame was for this. The PD noted it upon talking to her AFTER finding out about the drugs in the little girls system. When would she have been drinking? If it was around dinnertime, it would have had to have been after her daughter was found, but that means she was drinking and driving with her daughter in the car right?
Just some observations/questions. I don't want it to sound like I am saying MH didn't do this because I totally think she did, I just think there are still some unanswered questions.
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I don't think the PD found the little girl in the park. I believe Ms. Polk must have called the Huckaby home looking for her daughter and the grandmother, Connie, called Melissa on her cell phone and told her she needed to return the little girl that the mom had reported her missing. Or maybe Connie knew they were out looking for the girl and knew already that she was with Melissa.
Ms. Polk said that her daughter told her that Melissa gave her water from Wendy's and it tasted like medicine. We do not know when she gave her the water. Since imo, she had no intentions of bringing her back then, she could have just given the drug shortly before her grandmother called her telling her to bring the child home.
The sleepiness and staggering must have started very quickly after she came home. Ms. Polk said she took her to the hospital about 30-45 minutes after she was returned. Maybe Melissa gave it to her so she would sleep rather than talk about her day and to erase her memory of the day and of exactly what happened in those 4 hours.
Was this notated in their final report? I haven't read that but think it is irrelevant. The child did not go home with her but was returned to her mom the next morning.
It seems the mother came in from work and found her little daughter missing and called the police. Imo she did exactly what any caring mother would do. Not only calling police but taking her child to the hospital. I know she is very thankful that her daughter is safe and sound. I wish Sandra had had the same outcome when she crossed paths with MH.
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You are probably correct. They may have run another blood test to see if the level of drugs were dropping before they released her. The mom said she walked home from the hospital around 2:00 am. So she and the child were there for hours and hours.
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I haven't seen this posted, if it has been please disregard.
This is a link for those that wondered where MH's own child might have been during this incident...
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/676458.html
Thursday, Apr. 23, 2009
snippet of interest:
This is a link for those that wondered where MH's own child might have been during this incident...
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/676458.html
Thursday, Apr. 23, 2009
snippet of interest:
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Really!? You found it worse than coming off heroin? Dont answer if this is too personal but I am curious what was the AD, and also I'm wondering did you not have much of a habit when you kicked the heroin? It is blowing my mind that coming off an AD could be that indescribably horrible. I have stopped anti-depressant and it was nowhere near the torture of opiate withdrawal. AND the withdrawal seems to get worse every time. (Thank God, after over 10 yrs on heroin, I have now been off for as long as I was using.)
Anyway, I hope the AD is helping you and you are doing well. Hang in there!
(I'm sorry for the digression too)
As a recovering addict, I was perhaps even more than most people upset by hearing that the police might have not fully investigated the January crime at the time because the little girl's mom had alcohol on her breath and had some benzos. "When you *advertiser censored*/U/ME....." It is sickening to think that if they had taken that more seriously and questioned MH then, who knows she might have broken down and confessed and maybe Sandra would be alive.
It seems it is so unusual for a woman acting alone to do this...Hearing about the "Tracy 60" child pornographers being investigated, I am wondering if MH was providing and drugging kids for child *advertiser censored*. http://www.protect.org/Newswire/California/In-wake-of-tragedy-Tracy-could-lead-nation.html
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MH's daughter being with them bothers me. If she had other things in mind for the 7 yo she allegedly drugged, what was she going to do with her daughter during that time? Was she going to take her home to Connie? Was there a period of time when she did take her home for a nap?
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If M. really did the drugging of Loyd's little girl, I wonder if she also gave her own child something in the Windy's water. She was too cheap to even buy juice or a fountain drink. Keep a child missing for 4 hours, drag her around to 3 parks, then only buy water. Water to mix the stuff in was all she needed though I suppose.
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True that we do not have any official time frame for when the little girl was drugged. The articles I have read all stated that LE found MH at the park with the little girl (I could be wrong, just going by what I have read so far) IF that is the case, it would most likely mean that they had been to Wendys prior to going to the park as I doubt MH would drive her by Wendys to drug her right before taking her back home. Then again with MH who knows.
The thing about this that is hard for me to wrap my head around, is when Mrs Polk was drinking. I want to make it clear that I am not trying to defer any blame from MH to her at all. I am just trying to figure out when she was drinking. If she came straight home from work that doesn't fit, I certainly hope she wasn't drinking during the 30 or so minutes that her child was acting strange - that would also mean she was drinking and driving (by taking her daughter to get food).
I'm trying to figure this out to possibly find more links between this little girl and her life and Sandra. We know they had single moms, lived in the same park, were allowed to wander the park for lengthy periods of time (IMO) alone, etc.
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This is a transcript from the Nancy Grace show of Melissa's conversation with the reporter.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MELISSA HUCKABY, SANDRA CANTU`S MURDER SUSPECT: I had taken my daughter and one of her friends to the park, which I had done for the third time that week. The mother was I guess at work, and the grandmother had told the little girl that she could go to the park, which she does all the time, and when the mother came home she didn`t know where she was.
I`d given the mother my phone number, my cell phone number, in case anything were to happen. She needed to get a hold of me. She claims to have lost the phone number. Everything was fine. I brought her back. Police were called out at the time, and I was then called by my grandparents to bring her home because her mother did not know that she was missing -- I mean that she was with me.
(END VIDEO CLIP)