IL IL - The Unidentified Victims of John Wayne Gacy

[PacificPacific]

Is it possible some of the victims were killed when gacy was out of state, then transported to his crawlspace after his return journey?

 

[Cubby]

Welcome to WS, PacificPacific. IDK about your possible scenario, it might be too dangerous to transport a body too far. I think it's possible he brought young men back to Illinois and killed them in IL.

 

[PacificPacific]

Well depending on the possible states they went missing from, it would have been a lot of effort to go all that way for the fat **** to find a boy and kill them, when he could have found one through uptown Chicago. I'm not entirely sure how long it takes to travel from one state to another, I live in England so I don't know too much about American geography

 

[CarlK90245]

Well depending on the possible states they went missing from, it would have been a lot of effort to go all that way for the fat **** to find a boy and kill them, when he could have found one through uptown Chicago. I'm not entirely sure how long it takes to travel from one state to another, I live in England so I don't know too much about American geography

The route from Minneapolis to Chicago is about a 6-hour drive.

 

[PacificPacific]

Anyway, who could be possible suspected victims?

 

[shehangsbrightly]

Folks, does anyone else think that this young man was a victim of JWG? I can't stop thinking that he was, but his time of disappearance doesn't jive with any of the estimates of the unidentified.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12787/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4640dmil.html

He was already ruled out as being Victim 21, according to Doe Network, through DNA comparison.

Where else did JWG bury his victims? Besides the Des Plaines River?

 

[Cubby]

Folks, does anyone else think that this young man was a victim of JWG? I can't stop thinking that he was, but his time of disappearance doesn't jive with any of the estimates of the unidentified.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12787/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4640dmil.html

He was already ruled out as being Victim 21, according to Doe Network, through DNA comparison.

Where else did JWG bury his victims? Besides the Des Plaines River?

If he was ruled out for one victim he was ruled out for all. The DNA comparison are to all UID'S or all MP's.

 

[PacificPacific]

He could be possibly any UID other than Body 21, Body 28, or Body 26 then I assume

BODY 21 has already been confrimed
BODY 28 died before he was reported missing
BODY 26 is way too short to be that of his remains

It could possibly be that his date of disappearance was inaccurate. Several gacy victims like Billy Carroll and Jon Prestidge were not reported missing until days/months after.

 

[PacificPacific]

Where it is confirmed on the doe network website that victim 21 is not Craig?

 

[CountEveryMoment]

Do they ever plan to redo the reconstructions of the victims? Every time I see the reconstructions I think they almost look like the same person. That's just opinion though.

 

[Cubby]

Do they ever plan to redo the reconstructions of the victims? Every time I see the reconstructions I think they almost look like the same person. That's just opinion though.

I agree. IDK, the reconstruction do look too much like the same person. However, it could be JG had a type and that's why the recons areally so similiar.

 

[PacificPacific]

I think all the recons are similar because they are all in black and white

 

[PacificPacific]

I've just had a thought. Haakenson may have been killed in one of gacy's "doubles" because gacy states occasionally he did "doubles". Yet the only double kill confirmed according to the disappearance patterns were Parker and Marino. Meaning that there must have been at minimum one more, the most notable one, (due to the fact the bodies were piled) could be between Johnston, haakenson himself and #26. Meaning #26 or haakenson or haakenson and Johnston could have been killed at the same time.

 

[Jake479]

Rip Jimmie Haakenson

 

[The British Empire]

Possible match for 954UMIL:

Craig Allen Conner
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4640dmil.html


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[theshadow45]

Welcome to Websleuths, The British Empire :welcome5:! Craig Conner has been mentioned previously on this thread but I don't think he was submitted or ruled out as being any of Gacy's remaining nameless victims.

 

[The British Empire]

Nothing yet from the Doe Network. How long does it normally take for a match to be processed?

 

[theshadow45]

It can take awhile. Another good resource for submitting potential matches is NamUs (https://namus.gov/), they list rule outs via manual submissions that they receive.

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

A missing boy thought to be a possible Gacy victim has been linked by DNA to some bones found in the Bass River State Park in New Jersey.

The bones found in Bass River State Park were listed in NamUs as UP 8978

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/8978.

There was no Websleuths thread for this UID, and Soden was not listed in any public MP databases.

12-year-old Donald Caldwell is not listed in any public databases either.

I am here as well about Steven and Donald. Particularly wanted to comment on why Donald doesn't have a missing person case file anywhere.

 

[dotr]

http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/crime...s-victim-of-notorious-serial-killer/458012169
James Byron Haakenson

July 19 2017

It's not every day you heard this: A monster murdered your brother," said James' sister Lorie Sisterman. "It's just not an everyday, normal conversation that you have with a detective from a different state that tells you this awful news."Sisterman's DNA helped identify her brother's remains. The DNA was submitted after someone in the family wondered if James had been a Gacy victim.
Sisterman, the oldest sibling, said the father of the family drank and wasn't always around. Her brother was a troubled youth and ran away to Chicago at the age of 16.
She remembered a conversation with another sibling around that time:

"And he said something like, 'Jimmie's wearing makeup.' And I'm like, 'What?' So starting to dabble, maybe, in the gay lifestyle. But all of us not understanding it."

Jimmie Haakenson called his mother from Chicago on Aug. 5, 1976.

Then, no word for 40 years.

This week, a Cook County sheriff's detective went to Minnesota to tell the family the news.

There are still six unidentified victims killed by Gacy, who was executed in 1994. It had been five years since his last victim was identified.