LA LA - Port Allen, WhtFem 24-33, UP1872, under rock pile, long, dark brown hair, jewelry, Feb'85

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves
Alma Louise O'Con is my 2nd cousin. Is there reason to still believe this is possibly her? My mother & grandfather have been missing her for more than 35 yrs. It's still a painful topic for them. Here is a clearer picture of her, this would have been about 6-7 years before her disappearance.
attachment.php

Any thoughts??
Thanks in advance!
 

Attachments

  • FullSizeRender.jpg
    FullSizeRender.jpg
    34.1 KB · Views: 88
Welcome, Lucynethel
Both the unidentified remains and your 2nd cousin have dental records available, according to NamUs.
If both sets of records are in the NCIC database, then Alma would have automatically compared to this case and ruled out or matched. There is only one way to find out for sure, and that would be to contact the NamUs case manager, tell them you are a family member are and ask if she's been ruled out, if you haven't already.
Also, I noticed that Alma's DNA profile is stating "initial inquiry underway". Do you know anything about that or how long it's been in that status? Getting that submitted and updated will help compare to other UP cases as well.
Here are the links to Alma's and the Jane Doe's NamUs cases. Please contact them and ask, their email addresses and phone numbers are listed in the contact section:
Alma: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10862/1/
Unidentified case: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1872
Good luck! Thank you for posting such a lovely picture of your cousin.
 
LA – Port Allen, West Baton Rouge Parish, W/F, 24-33, Skeleton (Port Allen Jane Doe), 20 Feb 1985


Date Discovered: February 20, 1985

Location Discovered: Port Allen, West Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana

336_1.jpg 191UFLA8.jpg
191UFLA1.jpg 191UFLA2.jpg

85-01A (1).jpg


Physical/Clothing/Medical
Estimated Age: 25-33 Years Old
Height: 5’2” – 5’4” (62” – 64”), Petite Frame
Estimated Weight: Estimated 115 lbs.
Hair: Dark Brown w/reddish highlights, 6” – 8” Inches Long
Eye: Unknown
Race: White
Sex: Female
Clothing:
Jewelry: Rope design bracelet worn on left arm, (4) rings; oval cut turquoise stone, double heart with stone in each heart, single dark colored pearl inset with flower petal, round cut clear stone
Medical/Scars: Left 2nd rib attached to the 1st rib by boney extension, bifurcated right 3rd rib (bifid or forked ribs are uncommon); deformities may have been a birth defect
Transportation:
Finger Print: Not Available
Postmortem Interval: 3 Months (Nov 1984)
Probable year of death: 0 to 1985 (NAMUS)
Dental Status: Dental information / charting is available and entered (04/19/18); Amalgam fillings in teeth # 2, 3, 14, 15, 19, 30 and 31.
DNA Status:Sample Submitted - Tests Complete (04/19/18)


Circumstances:
On the early evening hours of February 20th, 1985 (4:45 pm) a rabbit hunter found skeletal remains behind the Mississippi River levee, ½ mile south of the Mississippi River bridges. The skeleton had no clothing or even fibers were found only costume jewelry (1) bracelet on the left arm and (4) rings. The body had been covered very carefully with revetment limestone rocks (20lbs ea) from the levee area. The skeletal remains were examined, the woman had deformation of the upper left ribs and bifurcated right rib that may have been the result of a birth defect. She was very likely middle class due to her bones being healthy and has good dental care. In all after the examination a cause of death was not determined.

By June 1985 LE followed up on several leads however all resulted into dead ends. LE contacted Washington State authorities as that there were some similarities between the woman found and the Green River killer victims. The unidentified woman was in the same age bracket and some of the bodies found in Washington were buried under stones. At the time Washington authorities were still trying to locate (15) other women reported missing.



Investigating Agency:
West Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office
850 8th Street, Port Allen, LA. 70767
Tele: 225.382.5245 / 225-343-9234
Web: http://www.wbrsheriff.org/


Information Resources:

NAMUS
NAMUS Case # 1872: https://identifyus.org/cases/1872
Case Manager: Ginesse Listi
Tele: 225.578.3906

LSU Faces
LSU Faces Case MP Case # 85-01: http://identifyla.lsu.edu/profile.php?id=336
Teresa Wilson – Tele: 225.578.4761
Maria Allaire – Tele: 225.578.4775
General E-Mail: faces@lsu.edu
General Web: http://www.lsu.edu/faceslab/
LSU Faces Laboratory FB: https://www.facebook.com/pg/lsufaceslab/posts/

Doe Network Case # 191UFLA: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/191ufla.html
Porchlight # LAF850220: http://s10.zetaboards.com/usedtobedoe/topic/994466/1/

News Sources:
02/21/85 – The Advocate
02/22/85 – The Advocate
02/22/85(b) – The Advocate
02/23/85 – The Advocate
06/05/85 – The Advocate
08/17/88 – The Advocate

NAMUS Rule Outs as of 04/19/18:

Ida Basco Louisiana
Susan Cappel Ohio
Paulette Jaster Michigan
Patricia Kelley Tennessee
Elizabeth Maggard Kentucky
Sharon McCully Texas
Eleanor Parker Louisiana
Babette Phillips Louisiana
Amber Scholz Wyoming
Mary Shinn Arkansas
Annette Vail Oklahoma
 
LA – Port Allen, West Baton Rouge Parish, W/F, 24-33, Skeleton (Port Allen Jane Doe), 20 Feb 1985


Date Discovered: February 20, 1985

Location Discovered: Port Allen, West Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana

View attachment 133162 View attachment 133163
View attachment 133164 View attachment 133165

View attachment 133166


Physical/Clothing/Medical
Estimated Age:
25-33 Years Old
Height: 5’2” – 5’4” (62” – 64”), Petite Frame
Estimated Weight: Estimated 115 lbs.
Hair: Dark Brown w/reddish highlights, 6” – 8” Inches Long
Eye: Unknown
Race: White
Sex: Female
Clothing:
Jewelry:
Rope design bracelet worn on left arm, (4) rings; oval cut turquoise stone, double heart with stone in each heart, single dark colored pearl inset with flower petal, round cut clear stone
Medical/Scars: Left 2nd rib attached to the 1st rib by boney extension, bifurcated right 3rd rib (bifid or forked ribs are uncommon); deformities may have been a birth defect
Transportation:
Finger Print:
Not Available
Postmortem Interval: 3 Months (Nov 1984)
Probable year of death: 0 to 1985 (NAMUS)
Dental Status: Dental information / charting is available and entered (04/19/18); Amalgam fillings in teeth # 2, 3, 14, 15, 19, 30 and 31.
DNA Status:Sample Submitted - Tests Complete (04/19/18)


Circumstances:
On the early evening hours of February 20th, 1985 (4:45 pm) a rabbit hunter found skeletal remains behind the Mississippi River levee, ½ mile south of the Mississippi River bridges. The skeleton had no clothing or even fibers were found only costume jewelry (1) bracelet on the left arm and (4) rings. The body had been covered very carefully with revetment limestone rocks (20lbs ea) from the levee area. The skeletal remains were examined, the woman had deformation of the upper left ribs and bifurcated right rib that may have been the result of a birth defect. She was very likely middle class due to her bones being healthy and has good dental care. In all after the examination a cause of death was not determined.

By June 1985 LE followed up on several leads however all resulted into dead ends. LE contacted Washington State authorities as that there were some similarities between the woman found and the Green River killer victims. The unidentified woman was in the same age bracket and some of the bodies found in Washington were buried under stones. At the time Washington authorities were still trying to locate (15) other women reported missing.



Investigating Agency:
West Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office
850 8th Street, Port Allen, LA. 70767
Tele: 225.382.5245 / 225-343-9234
Web: WBR Sheriff | Home


Information Resources:

NAMUS
NAMUS Case # 1872: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Case Manager: Ginesse Listi
Tele: 225.578.3906

LSU Faces
LSU Faces Case MP Case # 85-01: Case #85-01 - LA Repository for Unidentified & Missing People
Teresa Wilson – Tele: 225.578.4761
Maria Allaire – Tele: 225.578.4775
General E-Mail: faces@lsu.edu
General Web: LSU FACES Laboratory
LSU Faces Laboratory FB: LSU FACES Laboratory

Doe Network Case # 191UFLA: The Doe Network: Case File 191UFLA
Porchlight # LAF850220: LAF850220

News Sources:
02/21/85 – The Advocate
02/22/85 – The Advocate
02/22/85(b) – The Advocate
02/23/85 – The Advocate
06/05/85 – The Advocate
08/17/88 – The Advocate

NAMUS Rule Outs as of 04/19/18:

Ida Basco Louisiana
Susan Cappel Ohio
Paulette Jaster Michigan
Patricia Kelley Tennessee
Elizabeth Maggard Kentucky
Sharon McCully Texas
Eleanor Parker Louisiana
Babette Phillips Louisiana
Amber Scholz Wyoming
Mary Shinn Arkansas
Annette Vail Oklahoma

No additional ruleouts as of today.
 
Shoupe isn't on the exclusions list (which hasn't been updated for some time)

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Ida Basco Louisiana
Susan Cappel Ohio
Paulette Jaster Michigan
Patricia Kelley Tennessee
Elizabeth Maggard Kentucky
Sharon McCully Texas
Eleanor Parker Louisiana
Babette Phillips Louisiana
Amber Scholz Wyoming
Mary Shinn Arkansas
Annette Vail Oklahoma
 
Shoupe isn't on the exclusions list (which hasn't been updated for some time)

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Ida Basco Louisiana
Susan Cappel Ohio
Paulette Jaster Michigan
Patricia Kelley Tennessee
Elizabeth Maggard Kentucky
Sharon McCully Texas
Eleanor Parker Louisiana
Babette Phillips Louisiana
Amber Scholz Wyoming
Mary Shinn Arkansas
Annette Vail Oklahoma

This is a funny one. I found Babette Phillips no longer on the list, but they added MP1582 Babette Alberti 10/20/1983 St. Charles LA

When I went to the missing persons page, it turns out they're the same person. Phillips is apparently the alias.

Babette Nadine Alberti – The Charley Project
The Doe Network: Case File 1170DFLA
 

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
206
Guests online
302
Total visitors
508

Forum statistics

Threads
608,008
Messages
18,233,116
Members
234,274
Latest member
bellalrks01
Back
Top