Crumbley convictions set a legal precedent for parents that could reach beyond shootings
The Michigan prosecutor who won convictions against the mother and father of teenage school shooter Ethan Crumbley said Friday her goal was not to ensure that the sins of other criminally convicted children are visited on their parents in court, but to prevent further gun violence.news.yahoo.com
What precedent it sets is keep your guns locked up so your kid can't use them. The verdicts are a “warning” to parents like James and Jennifer Crumbley, who failed to keep a deadly weapon out of their son’s hands.
If your kid uses his friend's parents' gun then it is on them, not you.
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I agree with the verdict. I see an appeal being filed because it was not a law at the time to lock up the gun and this juror said that did it for him.Foreman of James Crumbley jury says gun storage was key issue for him, but not all jurors
Jury foreman says the prosecution's evidence "all kind of pieced together" against James Crumbleywww.freep.com
I still think the school should get some blame due to not checking the back pack. Moo...As of March 14, both parents were determined to be partly at fault for the deaths of 14-year-old Hana St. Juliana; 16-year-old Tate Myre; 17-year-old Madisyn Baldwin; and 17-year-old Justin Shilling. The Oxford shooter himself was convicted in 2022 of four counts of first-degree murder, as well as 20 other felony charges. He’s since been sentenced to life in prison without parole.Conviction of Oxford shooter’s parents ‘just the beginning’ for parents of murdered students
The parents of four students murdered in the Oxford shooting say the recent convictions are only the beginning.www.clickondetroit.com
But some say the shooter and his parents aren’t the only people who hold responsibility for the mass shooting. The families of the students who were shot and killed that day are still looking to hold the school district and its administrators responsible one way or another.
“While we are grateful that James and Jennifer Crumbley were found guilty, we want to be very clear that this is just the beginning of our quest for justice and true accountability,” the victims’ parents said Monday in a joint statement. “There is so much more that needs to be done to ensure other families in Michigan and across the country don’t experience the pain that we feel and we will not stop until real change is made.”...
That and the school counselor should have counseled him that day. Sending him back to class instead of being buddies for the day and doing some one on one counseling may have kept him from shooting up the school.I still think the school should get some blame due to not checking the back pack. Moo
James's "gross negligence" equated to "Involuntary manslaughter".I agree with the verdict. I see an appeal being filed because it was not a law at the time to lock up the gun and this juror said that did it for him.
Shawn Hopkins, counselor.That and the school counselor should have counseled him that day. Sending him back to class instead of being buddies for the day and doing some one on one counseling may have kept him from shooting up the school.
But then again, a school counselor's job is a weird mixed bag. He did testify to having seen many mental health issues in students over 10 years. But I cannot recall specifically what he said his specific duties were. Anyone recall if his job was also guidance counselor in the way of academics, or was he more a conflict resolution/mental health counselor? IMO, this whole school counselor thing seems like a vague position.
Crazy the school board has the power and authority to quash a government investigation.I still think the school should get some blame due to not checking the back pack. Moo