GUILTY MI - 4 students killed, 6 injured, Oxford High School shooting, 30 Nov 2021 *Arrest incl parents* *teen and both parents guilty* #7

[Cool Cats]

I wonder if/how his lifestyle will change in the new facility.

Less school work. The juveniles at Thumb get alot of attention for school work, most haven't completed HS.

He is a level 2 which gives him alot of freedom out of his cell but the Oaks housing unit has a special program if he needs protective custody.

He could be put away from general pop but not be locked down 23 hours.

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[Weki]

that is a great phrase- and so true

I should have amplified a bit: After listening to his nasty threats made towards the prosecutor, I think it gives some insight into his persona-- he sounds like a bully and aggressive and I imagine he was like that with his wife and son-- would not make for a happy household-- He knew his calls were being recorded and he did not care one bit--- in fact he wanted the prosecutor to know he was threatening her ( oops my bad: I meant to say VENTING!!!)

Before the jail calls were released it was suggested somewhere that he may have been venting about his HOA……lol….maybe he was just upset about his HOA and Karen McDonald was catching strays. We’ll never know. It will remain a mystery as these things are so hard to figure out.

/sarcasm

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

This lengthy report is for subscribers only and likely has a paywall. Ethan's appeal team is questioning the lack of lay witnesses' testimony on behalf of Ethan during the Miller hearing and sentencing. Lay witnesses, including family members, would have provided insight into Ethan's home life during his early years.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2024/05/13/appeals-attorney-oxford-shooter-didnt-have-lay-witnesses-family-testify/73673523007/

 

[Cool Cats]

Oxford school shooter needs dad's help — but James Crumbley won't give it

The Oxford school shooter says he has new witnesses who can help his appeal. His dad isn't among them.

news.yahoo.com

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Ethan Crumbley's parents refuse to help him appeal his murder conviction

The father of Ethan Crumbley, who killed four students at Oxford High School in Michigan in 2021, said his son could tell his lawyers himself about his family and home environment.

www.nbcnews.com

Mass shooter Ethan Crumbley asked his parents for help appealing his life sentence, but they refused to disclose documents that he said would strengthen his case, according to court documents.

Crumbley, who was 15 when he opened fire at Oxford High School in Michigan, killing four classmates and injuring seven other people, asked an Oakland County circuit judge on May 10 for pre-sentencing investigation reports used in the involuntary manslaughter trials of Jennifer and James Crumbley that include information about their home and family life...

The records Ethan Crumbley requested would shed light on his upbringing and possible mental state while he was growing up, which could help his appeal, his lawyers said in the May 10 court filing.

But in a response filed on May 14, James Crumbley urged the judge to deny the motion, saying his son could inform his legal team himself about his early home life...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Oxford High School shooter asks parents for help in appeal of life sentence, gets denied

The Oxford High School shooter asked his parents to help in the appeal of his life sentence, but they turned him down, court records show.

www.clickondetroit.com

 

[Sundog]

Ethan Crumbley's parents refuse to help him appeal his murder conviction

The father of Ethan Crumbley, who killed four students at Oxford High School in Michigan in 2021, said his son could tell his lawyers himself about his family and home environment.

www.nbcnews.com

Mass shooter Ethan Crumbley asked his parents for help appealing his life sentence, but they refused to disclose documents that he said would strengthen his case, according to court documents.

Crumbley, who was 15 when he opened fire at Oxford High School in Michigan, killing four classmates and injuring seven other people, asked an Oakland County circuit judge on May 10 for pre-sentencing investigation reports used in the involuntary manslaughter trials of Jennifer and James Crumbley that include information about their home and family life...

The records Ethan Crumbley requested would shed light on his upbringing and possible mental state while he was growing up, which could help his appeal, his lawyers said in the May 10 court filing.

But in a response filed on May 14, James Crumbley urged the judge to deny the motion, saying his son could inform his legal team himself about his early home life...

The parents may be filing their own appeals, and so the pre-sentence reports that EC's attorneys want may be a conflict of interest.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Campaign to create garden in memory of Oxford shooting victims aims to raise $50,000

The garden will be named "Hana's Garden" in memory of the shooting's youngest victim, Hana St. Juliana, but it would represent all four students who died.

www.detroitnews.com

A fundraising campaign to create a public garden in Oxford in memory of the four students fatally shot at Oxford High School in 2021 is underway, and organizers want to raise $50,000 by June 21 to qualify for matching funds from the state.

"Hana’s Garden," named for Hana St. Juliana, 14, will honor her and the three victims of the Nov. 30 2021 shooting, the Michigan Economic Development Corporation said in a recent news release. The garden's design concept will center "four," representing the four lives lost...

 

[ilovewings]

Teenager who killed 4 in Michigan high school shooting appeals life sentence

A teenager who was convicted of fatally shooting four students at his high school in Michigan is appealing his life sentence

abcnews.go.com

 

[texaslb218]

Teenager who killed 4 in Michigan high school shooting appeals life sentence

A teenager who was convicted of fatally shooting four students at his high school in Michigan is appealing his life sentence

abcnews.go.com

I oppose any attempt to allow him in society even for an hour. It's a NO from me.

 

[ilovewings]

I oppose any attempt to allow him in society even for an hour. It's a NO from me.

Ditto

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Oxford High School shooter asks to withdraw guilty plea, be resentenced

The shooter's attorney said his cognitive-adaptive dysfunctions — possibly caused by alcohol exposure in the womb — were not adequately raised.

www.detroitnews.com

New evidence prompts motion to withdraw guilty plea in Oxford High School shooting

Attorneys for the Oxford High School shooter filed a motion to withdraw his guilty plea in the deadly school shooting.

www.clickondetroit.com

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Oxford High School shooter asks to withdraw guilty plea, be resentenced

The shooter's attorney said his cognitive-adaptive dysfunctions — possibly caused by alcohol exposure in the womb — were not adequately raised.

eu.detroitnews.com

"The two motions, filed Friday in Oakland County Circuit Court, also argue that Crumbley's earlier attorneys were not effective in investigating his "cognitive-adaptive deficits" and other mitigating factors in his case..."

All the more reason he stays in prison, since these deficits won't be going away. While IMO his parents are also responsible, it doesn't mean he can be rehabilitated nor that he should walk free someday.