No lies detected.
Gosh I can only imagine how much built-up resentment and anger Veronica’s family has for Tifany even before these nightmarish last few weeks.
The judge in the NN Brian Entin interview is a municipal judge. These judges have very little power and deal with minor city issues like parking tickets and the like. They are selected by mayors.
The judges in domestic situations are district judges. They have much more power and responsibility.
Here is an article on the associate judge of Cimarron County, OK:
They showed them shackled walking in to Court outside. They were brought in one at a timeWould have liked to have at least a pic in their jailhouse jumpsuits. Oh well.
Or maybe the judges just occasionally chat about "shop talk" kinds of legal issues.Indeed. I wrote the same somewhere above that my friend who is a NYC Municipal Court judge does parking tickets.
I think this judge who is pals with this crew would have had exactly zero influence in a custody hearing, EXCEPT that in a tiny town, I presume there is some kind of fellowship between the few judges that are around. Maybe they give each other a nudge on how they should rule in a case.
JMO and speculation.
What’s PC?I do think it's possible that Grice is cooperating NOW with LE. I think he could have backed out and maybe he didn't go that day after all and once things went down, he went into hiding.. or he played along for a while and then he came forward to say what he knew and he kept an eye on them AFTER the murders and BEFORE the arrests. That I can believe.. he's MIA now because he's in PC. I think he was young and new to the group and it's more likely he backed out once he realized they were serious and people were going to die..
Good to know that these miscreants will remain behind bars. I hope they are also denied visitors and phone calls except from attorneys as who knows what they could accomplish in terms of revenge.Bond denied according to Brian Entin.
GOOD.
Protective custody?What’s PC?
I wonder if that change in LE presence at a visitation exchange was perhaps made because TA wanted it that way? And got it that way?In one of the court documents from the custody case, it says that they used to have LE there at the child exchange time for safety reasons, and that this was by VB's request. HOWEVER, it also says that they stopped doing that, despite VB continuing to request this, because the cops decided it was UNNECESSARY! So they thought she was just saying they needed to be there, probably to make TA and/or Wrangler look bad, when really she was at no risk from them, so no need for LE to come anymore. And this is documented, on record, of them saying this, so I hope this comes up later.
andI do think it's possible that Grice is cooperating NOW with LE...he's MIA now because he's in PC. (snipped for length)
Based on the context of @justtrish's remarks, PC is for Protective Custody.What’s PC?
Protective custody.What’s PC?
The huge jump in severity does make you wonder.
However, this was so botched and outrageous that I have doubts these people are experienced in murder.
What am illustrative and expertly written post.In the first custody hearing, Tifany came much more prepared than what Veronica or anyone ever would anticipate, and had photos of evidence and had more witnesses arranged to speak on Wrangler's account than Veronica had for herself. Tifany made it much bigger than it should have been because with her son being awarded full custody, it was only in his name in her mind, and those kids were hers. Eventually this led to her keeping the kids away from both of them, because with Wrangler's past and Tifany's influence it's easy for someone not understanding the full situation to casually assume perhaps they are better with her than their father with a criminal past and someone who she carefully molded to the public as not caring about them anyway. Veronica was young, but she had so much strength to fight this unfair battle where the cards were stacked unbeknownst and against her from the beginning. Tifany thought she really had control of them all up until Wrangler screwed up and managed to get arrested on Nov. 16 in possession of a firearm as a felon and was sentenced to six years, all suspended and placed on probation. Then, on Feb. 21, Wrangler was arrested and charged with Domestic Assault and Battery in the Presence of Minors and Public Intoxication, which prompted the district attorney to ask the court to revoke Wrangler's probation. The charge was for attacking his mother in law.
Tifany knew that this would be how Veronica would finally be awarded full custody. The court would finally award full custody to the mother, and while she could influence Wrangler to have the kids all the time, she couldn't do the same any longer with Veronica. We can't see the document that was sealed, and I'm not going to discuss it further than mentioning it, but it wouldn't matter at this stage bc unfortunately, imo Tifany had been planting seeds especially about Veronica and Wrangler for years anyway to potray a role she never was. Unfortunately, in her mind and how she convulted other weak minded people her view that no one was going to take those children away from her no matter the cost, the truth, the law, or consequence. Just imo.