Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #3

[Noorie]

Also, a question was raised re bikies and panel beater businesses often have links to bikie groups. Any theories?

Someone brought that up in the first thread and it wasn't popular opinion. Maybe coincidence that a clubhouse is 2 minutes away from the business.

 

[Deleted member 293720]

 

[Bats]

I just watched the police update on A Current Affair. I didn't catch the last question asked by a reporter, nor the police response. The police officer smirked and looked away after his answer. Can someone tell me what was said. We have a big electrical storm here atm and the reception keeps coming in and out. Also, a question was raised re bikies and panel beater businesses often have links to bikie groups. Any theories?

I think you may be referring to a reporter's question which was something along the lines.... if you hadn't, would you say no? The question was around searching and finding things in other people's homes. ...officer Hatt's initial response to the first question was something like ...i can't comment on that.... evoking a wry smile for the second question.

 

[thegoogler]

It feels like they're close now, but then again I felt the same when the press releases disappeared from VICPOL website and that turned out to be nothing.

 

[ChuckE]

Couple of things that I would like to put forward.
1. I feel the police know what happened and who did it and are now waiting for them to crack.
2. The search footage today and the images etc are stage managed to assist in the investigation. People can only put up a charade for so long.
3. Mt Clear , The business and east ballarat are almost equal distances apart.
4. Look at the family dynamic very closely.

Yes!

 

[ChuckE]

Yes, he went home today as per his post on FB

Why'd he go home? Is there a bigger case for him?... seriously,all the hype and funding for his services and he's left? I hope his presence made a positive impact and provided some assistance...I really do....unlike the WT case

 

[Alli1982]

It is interesting the police are now reporting that the business forms part of the investigation.

Yep, debts owed?

 

[Alli1982]

Someone brought that up in the first thread and it wasn't popular opinion. Maybe coincidence that a clubhouse is 2 minutes away from the business.

I think this is the best theory, as per last post, the idea of debts owed to the wrong ppl MOO

 

[Deleted member 293720]

I was wondering this too?

No

 

[ChuckE]

Someone brought that up in the first thread and it wasn't popular opinion. Maybe coincidence that a clubhouse is 2 minutes away from the business.

Very possible... notorious for stand over and extortion tactics

 

[Oona]

“There is also nothing to indicate that Samantha left the area (mount clear search area) of her own accord."

What do people make of this statement?
My guess is that this is where and when her devices were switched off, but I am interested to hear other ideas.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/very-doubtful-that-she-is-still-alive-police-confirm-they-are-searching-for-samantha-murphys-body-in-mount-clear-area/news-story/d98b5d2658462da7f7396f79a4644b3f

 

[ChuckE]

It is interesting the police are now reporting that the business forms part of the investigation.

Of course

 

[epictreasure]

Yes, he went home today as per his post on FB

Maybe he realised what he could be getting himself into? I knew he couldn’t stay a longtime but I didn’t think it would be half a day

 

[Marg944]

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I just came across an article that seems to favour that red piece to be sap.

https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.353%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0/t_crop_custom/q_62%2Cf_auto/fee137d092f352ad72e36f12623ff19725e417d4

Detectives believe ‘one or more parties’ involved in disappearance of Samantha Murphy

Police say “everyone in relation to Samantha is a person of interest”, as they use intelligence gathered from phone data in a renewed search for the missing Ballarat East mum.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Noorie]

I think this is the best theory, as per last post, the idea of debts owed to the wrong ppl MOO

It's a very good possibility. JMO but not sure it was debt in a monetary sense. I think they had too much cash via the business link and it was starting to be obvious (renos and collectable cars) and the client didn't want it tied back to the source because of unexplained wealth laws. Just one of my theories.

 

[ChuckE]

“There is also nothing to indicate that Samantha left the area (mount clear search area) of her own accord."

What do people make of this statement?
My guess is that this is where and when her devices were switched off, but I am interested to hear other ideas.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/very-doubtful-that-she-is-still-alive-police-confirm-they-are-searching-for-samantha-murphys-body-in-mount-clear-area/news-story/d98b5d2658462da7f7396f79a4644b3f

Possibly devices indicated heart stopped...they haven't found her body and therefore if her heart stopped she could not leave of her own accord..but something (GPS, tracking etc) shows her body has been removed?

 

[Bats]

Someone brought that up in the first thread and it wasn't popular opinion. Maybe coincidence that a clubhouse is 2 minutes away from the business.

There are scenarios I've ruled out. This isn't one of them.

 

[epictreasure]

Can someone shed some light onto what circumstances would lead them to believe there was more than one person?
Could it be the watch tracked separately to the phone?
Source

 

[inkpink]

I've also been pondering if there are any extended family links to the tobacco wars.

Things are getting pretty radical in that space...

 

[SouthAussie]

Why'd he go home? Is there a bigger case for him?... seriously,all the hype and funding for his services and he's left? I hope his presence made a positive impact and provided some assistance...I really do....unlike the WT case

They knew he was only coming until Friday. He has work obligations elsewhere.

I will find the link and add it here.


ETA:
Cassar told 7NEWS.com.au he would only be in Victoria until Friday due to work commitments, but that his goal was to help the co-ordinators of Saturday’s search to “establish a solid game plan”.

“I’m hoping to get a lot done while I’m here,” he said.
“I’ll cover as much ground as physically possible while I’m out here, especially in the more remote places.

“I plan on training up some locals in the fundamentals of tracking, so when I leave I can continue to liaise with those on the ground.”

Veteran bush tracker joins search for missing mum after sharing new theory

It’s been over two weeks since Samantha Murphy was last seen, now a tracker with experience in high-profile missing persons cases is joining the search.

7news.com.au