Searching for Seka

[Odyssey]

Croatian is very similar to Serbian and easily understood by Serbians and vice versa.

In most cases, Seka is a nickname both in Croatia and Serbia.

This person might know or has heard of Seka. It might be a good idea to contact her.

My belief is that Seka is living in the US.

HTH

I can't find an email for her... ugh...

I might add though, I did not find very many licensees whose names appeared Serbian - I was searching late 1970s-early 1980s in San Francisco only... I think I found about 8 of them...

Kiva: I do have a question about the Seka nickname. Would you think it is more likely that she went by the nickname Seka because her real name was difficult to pronounce, or uncommon here? Or do you think someone named Kathleen would be just as likely to go by Seka?

Appreciate your help, as always!!

 

[Odyssey]

Well!
You're not going to believe what I've just found... On Facebook, there is a group called Zim's Restaurant. Whoopie. There are 120 people in the group so far and they are discussing the restaurant, the waitresse's the owner and some of them went there in the early 70's! Some are old waitress's and daughters and son's of people who worked there... Do I dare? Please give me some thoughts, please........ SK
For those interested..... https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/211635915110/

I double dare you!

Yeah I think that would be good... if Steve Z remembered them and probably wasn't even all that involved in the day to day stuff... my bet is the waitresses would remember them...

 

[SideKick]

Another long shot here... going on the theory that Seka may have been a medical student... I started searching the California physician and nurse licenses for any names that sound like they could be Serbian. (A wiki article stated that most Serbian/Yugoslavian surnames end in "ic" so that's what I was looking for)

I found one named S88V88E88T88K88A G88R88S88K88O88V88I88C

(Ignore the 8's, I'm just trying to keep her name from showing up on a Google search that her patients may see) Anyway, she was licensed as an RN in San Francisco and currently works at Kaiser on Geary in SF. Her Kaiser profile says that she speaks Croatian (not sure if this is a plus or a minus, Seka should speak Serbian, right?), and has been in the SF Bay Area for 35 years (arriving circa 1975-1976), and with Kaiser for 30 (circa 1980-1981).

I could see how this first name could be understood as "Seka" by someone who may not be familiar with the Serbian names.

Again, total long shot.. but I thought it was worth mentioning since the timing also seems right.

~~ If I decifered correctly, she is currently 53 yrs old. In 1978 she was 20.
There is a phone number online, easily accessible. Anyone want to ring her?
Also on 123people.com lists possible relatives and an alias name...

 

[SideKick]

I can't find an email for her... ugh...

I might add though, I did not find very many licensees whose names appeared Serbian - I was searching late 1970s-early 1980s in San Francisco only... I think I found about 8 of them...

Kiva: I do have a question about the Seka nickname. Would you think it is more likely that she went by the nickname Seka because her real name was difficult to pronounce, or uncommon here? Or do you think someone named Kathleen would be just as likely to go by Seka?

Appreciate your help, as always!!

Sorry, who's email addy are you referring to?

thanks

 

[Odyssey]

Sorry, who's email addy are you referring to?

thanks

I was trying to find an email for that Kaiser doctor... and yes, you did decipher correctly.

 

[KivaSupporter]

I can't find an email for her... ugh...


Kiva: I do have a question about the Seka nickname. Would you think it is more likely that she went by the nickname Seka because her real name was difficult to pronounce, or uncommon here? Or do you think someone named Kathleen would be just as likely to go by Seka?

Appreciate your help, as always!!

Seka means "little sister". She would probably use it informally, like with family and friends. In my opinion, she would not use it professionaly.

Yes, Kathleen could go by Seka, but Kathleen is not a name that one would find in former Yugoslavia. It could be that her name was Kata or Katica and she is using English equivalent. I am guessing.

If you have any questions, I would be happy to help.

 

[Annasmom]

Annasmom, I was thinking of sending a copy of the flyer by e-mail. A person in Croatia could then print copies and distribute them.

I believe I can produce a flyer in Word.

Would you please give me your suggestion about what to say in the flyer? I will translate it into Croatian.

If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

Maybe something like this: The person who wrote this post card may have information about two individuals (now deceased) who are persons of interest in a case involving the disappearance of a five-year-old girl in 1973 in California. Family and friends of the girl still hold hope that she may be found alive, and the case is still open. Contact _______________.

 

[Annasmom]

If anyone of you know which Zim's the G's frequented, it would very helpful IF I post on the FB site. The address.....? They are talking about 8th & Geary, Geary between 17th and 18th, Market and Van Ness and 19th, and one near Jackson and Vaness.

I think it could be the one at Market and Van Ness. I am just going on Joe Ford's notes in the book, because I don't know the area.

 

[SideKick]

Is it at all possible to obtain US Visa's issued to female person's from Serbia?

I have chatted with Miss Marple, and she sends her best wishes to you all, she is busy travelling but will pop in soon. The question is from Miss Marple...

 

[KivaSupporter]

Is it at all possible to obtain US Visa's issued to female person's from Serbia?

I have chatted with Miss Marple, and she sends her best wishes to you all, she is busy travelling but will pop in soon. The question is from Miss Marple...

At the present time or?

 

[SideKick]

At the present time or?

~~ I suppose anytime during 1978-present in order to locate Seka.:sleigh:

 

[Evan's Mom]

Another 2006 Post from Dr. D.

Dr. Doogie04-08-2006, 05:14 PM
No luck - Brody addressed the letters to her family as "Dear Friends". No address other than references to "Beograd".

I rereading the correspondence, it appears that Seka first arrived in San Francisco from Yugoslavia in 1976. Brody refers to her also by a nickname of "Little Tito". Shortly after her arrival, it appears that she began to drift away from Brody's influence, causing him to warn her about the emotional damage that would occur to her if he were to break ties with her (the ego of this man was stunning).

Yugoslavia!?

Full link for my 2 posts:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-37212.html

I don't know how relevant it is, but I always thought that Little Tito was in reference to Josip Broz Tito former president of Yugoslavia.
Could George have found some commonality between Tito and Seka, and that's why he referred to her as Little Tito?

 

[KivaSupporter]

~~ I suppose anytime during 1978-present in order to locate Seka.:sleigh:

The laws have changed many times during that period. In my opinion, it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to do.

 

[Cubby]

Still running with RL. Should have several uninterupted hours this coming weekend to work on a thread for Seka at CD.

 

[SideKick]

Hello!
Well, I got a hit on the Zim's page on Facebook. A gentleman by the name of George posted in reply to my photo post of the two G's. He said: I knew Dr. Waters. He worked at the Mission Neighborhood Health Center on 16th & Shotwell up until or close to his passing.
I then messaged him a little about Anna and old George and that we're searching for Anna. I haven't received a reply yet.
I was however, surprised someone actually remembers him and posted!! I am going to ask him if he knew if there was a Seka working at Zims.
Best for the holidays.

 

[Annasmom]

Hello!
Well, I got a hit on the Zim's page on Facebook. A gentleman by the name of George posted in reply to my photo post of the two G's. He said: I knew Dr. Waters. He worked at the Mission Neighborhood Health Center on 16th & Shotwell up until or close to his passing.
I then messaged him a little about Anna and old George and that we're searching for Anna. I haven't received a reply yet.
I was however, surprised someone actually remembers him and posted!! I am going to ask him if he knew if there was a Seka working at Zims.
Best for the holidays.

Amazing work, SideKick!

 

[Firefly75]

I don't know how relevant it is, but I always thought that Little Tito was in reference to Josip Broz Tito former president of Yugoslavia.
Could George have found some commonality between Tito and Seka, and that's why he referred to her as Little Tito?

In my experience, people from the (now) former Yugoslavia are often referred to as 'something or other' of or related to Josip Broz Tito, not always necessarily because of any shared (personality) traits. Perhaps this lady believed in the values Tito tried to instill in children of the day (for example, that education and learning were of crucial importance, or some of his socialist values), who knows.

However, G. may have called her that simply on account of her being from Yugoslavia, or of Yugoslav ancestors. I've been called 'Little Tito' myself on occasion (usually by people who knew nothing whatsoever about Yugoslavia or its political situation). Once, on a trip to Italy, my friends and I went to a pizzeria for our tea and as it was in a somewhat remote place and there weren't many customers, the chef came out to recommend some food. He asked where we were from and said, "Ooh, figlii di Tito" (Tito's children, and please disregard any spelling mistakes in Italian). He referred to us as Tito's children for the entire time we were there.

Just a thought.

 

[OzzieMum]

Another long shot here... going on the theory that Seka may have been a medical student... I started searching the California physician and nurse licenses for any names that sound like they could be Serbian. (A wiki article stated that most Serbian/Yugoslavian surnames end in "ic" so that's what I was looking for)

I found one named S88V88E88T88K88A G88R88S88K88O88V88I88C

(Ignore the 8's, I'm just trying to keep her name from showing up on a Google search that her patients may see) Anyway, she was licensed as an RN in San Francisco and currently works at Kaiser on Geary in SF. Her Kaiser profile says that she speaks Croatian (not sure if this is a plus or a minus, Seka should speak Serbian, right?), and has been in the SF Bay Area for 35 years (arriving circa 1975-1976), and with Kaiser for 30 (circa 1980-1981).

I could see how this first name could be understood as "Seka" by someone who may not be familiar with the Serbian names.

Again, total long shot.. but I thought it was worth mentioning since the timing also seems right.

Hi Odyssey,

If SG is who you wanted me to look up on Ancestry, then you may just be on to something. Really good work

Leaving pronunciation aside, many Europeans and Asians adopt a more western name or a shortening of their name to "fit in". Svetka, SvEtKA.

There is an SG that was born in 1958 (it doesn't state what country) and she was naturalized in 1983 in CA. There is also a public record for the same SG (going by DOB) in San Francisco in 1993, 439 Panorama Dr, San Francisco, CA, 94131-1222 (1993)
[179 Duncan St, San Francisco, CA, 94110-4322 (1993)]. She would only be 53 now so you would hope she is still alive.

Prior to (or during) 1977 we can see by GB's letters that there was a falling out between him and Seka. It makes me feel sick to think about it but maybe GB was entrusted to care for Seka while she was attending nursing school but his interest became more than a Fartherly one. SG would have been 15 when Anna disappeared and 19 when the GB letter to Seka's family was sent.

I would like to see a transcription of Seka's post card of 1978. It's not very clear on the scanned copy. I do find it interesting that Seka calls GB, Jean Gorge (Jean Gorge is French for John George, right?). We may have been looking for George instead of John.

It is also very interesting that GB writes to Seka's parent in English. Serbian/Yugoslavian I doubt it back then, French, YES.

JMO

 

[OzzieMum]

Par Avion is also French for, by plane.

 

[OzzieMum]

Or if you want "air mail".