I can only assume that Matt thinks they are in her possession.
Do we have a date on when Matt noticed the birth certificates and passports missing? Is that in the filing and I missed it?
I can only assume that Matt thinks they are in her possession.
Do we have a date on when Matt noticed the birth certificates and passports missing? Is that in the filing and I missed it?
RO and temp custody filing says:
"within the last few days[filing was 5/6], the plaintiff was examining the contents of the marital safe and noticed the defendant had taken the children's passports."
Filing for legal separation:
"within the last few days[filing was 5/6], the plaintiff was examining the contents of the safe at the Signal Mountain residence and noticed the defendant had taken the children's passports and birth certificates."
Ex parte motion for exclusive use & possession of the marital residence:
"the father also discovered that the mother took the passports and birth certificates of the children upon leaving them alone in the marital residence"
BBMSo the implication here is that Gail entered the SM residence after returning from the lake with the children; and at that time removed the passports and birth certificates?
Question: How would Matt know the time frame on this? Is it common practice for both Palmgrens to access the safe on a daily basis?
That would be my question. I suppose if were suspicious of gail doing this he could have been monitoring the contents. OTOH, the items may have been gone longer and he just did not realize.
Hmm.
How thoroughly perplexing.
So, according to this scenario- Gail entered the SM house when dropping the children off after coming back from the overnight trip to AL...accessed the safe and took out the childrens passports and birth certificates... took them with her...and left her drivers license behind.
How odd.
Odd for sure. Took what she needed to abscond with the kids-oh except she not only forgot to take the kids -she actually dropped them off.
Perhaps she had the thought that Matt was going to take the kids and that is why she took the passports and BC's after she dropped off the kids.
Either which way, imo she was planning on returning.
Wait, how do we know she took those items on the 30th after returning from the lake house? How do we know SHE took them at all? They're missing from the safe according to Matt, but that's all we know, IIRC.
Wait, how do we know she took those items on the 30th after returning from the lake house? How do we know SHE took them at all? They're missing from the safe according to Matt, but that's all we know, IIRC.
:twocents: The same man who claims that Gail is poison and they (the children) and MP would be better off without her....saying things will be better "when she's gone". :banghead:
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Wait, how do we know she took those items on the 30th after returning from the lake house? How do we know SHE took them at all? They're missing from the safe according to Matt, but that's all we know, IIRC.
I think it is fair to say we don't know that anything that has been said is true unless it has been backed up by LE. I think the passport and b/c' only makes sense in the context of a divorce filing because those items can be used for custody filing.
Any idea why the kids had passports? We may have covered this.
Well, I'm just wondering out loud here. The passports were gone and Matt immediately assumed they were taken on or around the 30th by Gail in preparation for running off with the kids. Seems like a lot of jumping to conclusions IMHO. Remember, early on he said Gail's passport was gone, too -- only to find out later she gave it to Susie. To me, it sounds like he lost track of the passports and has no idea on what date they were removed from the safe.
I believe Susie got the passport before the 30th, and as far as we know Gail didn't give Susie the kids' passports. That seems to undermine his theory that Gail took all the passports because she was going to run off with the kids, in my opinion.
I don't think Matt said she took them on the 30th. That was the question posed here, a few posts back.
The court filings seem to indicate they (Matt and Gail) had a certain place where the passports and BCs were kept, (the safe) and when he did go look they were not there, he doesn't have them, so she must. For the purpose of the court filing it wouldn't matter if she removed them on the 28th or 30th, or when, they are still gone.
Ironic that you're questioning Matt's statements and how true they are, and using a quote from AD in doing it.
AD has made that statement on every interview she's done, but how are we to know if Matt ever really said that? Are we supposed to take Arlene's word as 'golden'?
Are we to believe the estranged husband who hasn't said much, or the overbearing friend who won't stop talking? I guess that is something we each have to decide for ourselves.
But for the purpose of the court filing... why would it matter if Gail had the childrens' passports and birth certificates? :waitasec: