TX TX - Madisonville, UnkFem 2-6, UP15905, feeding tube, in suitcase, clothes, blankets, Sep'16

[John/Jane Doe]

I believe that this girl was truly Mexican (considering the strong ancestral ties with Nuevo Leon, Mexico).

Or maybe it could be Biracial.

 

[Laughing]

I believe that this girl was truly Mexican (considering the strong ancestral ties with Nuevo Leon, Mexico).

Or maybe it could be Biracial.

There are multiple ethnic groups within the population of Mexico.

I wonder if the hat-wearing sheriff is still in office? That gentleman was near tears talking about this little one.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[John/Jane Doe]

1645UFTX

 

[Laughing]

1645UFTX

Never noticed this line before:

Additional Personal Items: Military issued camo shirt (desert digital pattern)

Military issue? Yes, these items do show up in thrift stores. Was insignia removed from this shirt -- name, rank indicators? There would be marks on the shirt fabric...will authorities tell us what years this camo pattern was used, and the locations??? Is this desert camo, woodland, snow?

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Do you know the little girl with the feeding tube?

It's been five years since the grim discovery along I-45: A girl found stuffed in a suitcase, wearing a dress reading, "Follow Your Dreams."

abc13.com

Container along Central Texas pasture had remains of girl

Experts are trying to identify the remains of a preschool-age girl found inside a container left along a Central Texas pasture.

abc13.com

Five years after her discovery "Madisonville Jane Doe" is still an unknown

Madison Country Sheriff’s Office is working with the Amber Alert Network of the Brazos Valley to identify the child's remains.

www.kagstv.com

Madisonville Jane Doe: Investigators seek to identify little girl found in suitcase 5 years ago

Five years ago, the skeletal remains of a little girl were found inside of a suitcase near Interstate 45 in Texas, and no one has been able to identify her - but new evidence suggests that she may have ties to Arizona.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Officials seek help identifying girl with possible Arizona ties whose remains were found

The five-year anniversary of a child's remains left by a Texas roadside renews interest in Arizona connections.

www.azcentral.com

Rancher Finds Child’s Body In A Suitcase

The young girl with a feeding tube, known as Madisonville Jane Doe, has been unidentified since 2016.

medium.com

Girl found dead in 2016 in Texas may be from Arizona

The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children says a girl whose remains were found three years ago in a suitcase along a Texas pasture was likely from Southeast Arizona or Mexico. The group on Wednesday cited pollen analysis in efforts to identify remains discovered Sept. 17, 2016, by a...

news4sanantonio.com

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Have you seen this child?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Thinking of Madison County Jane Doe.

 

[carbuff]

Never noticed this line before:

Additional Personal Items: Military issued camo shirt (desert digital pattern)

Military issue? Yes, these items do show up in thrift stores. Was insignia removed from this shirt -- name, rank indicators? There would be marks on the shirt fabric...will authorities tell us what years this camo pattern was used, and the locations??? Is this desert camo, woodland, snow?

jmho ymmv lrr

It says "Additional Personal Items: Military issued camo shirt (desert digital pattern) Silver child's bedspread Grey adult sweatshirt and a small green blanket."

I'm pretty sure desert digital came is used by the Marines. It's also available through military surplus and tactical supply companies, though since it says military-issued, I'd assume that option isn't in play.

I-45 is the main route between Houston and Dallas. Madisonville is about an hour and a half north of Houston and 30 minutes north of Huntsville. It's also about 40 minutes northeast of College Station via State Highway 21, which appears to be a fairly main road. College Station is the home of Texas A&M University. So lots and lots of traffic going through there.

Madisonville · Texas 77864

Texas 77864

goo.gl

Madisonville isn't near the Arizona or Texas border, nor on any direct routes to either, so I'd say it's unlikely she was directly killed in or missing from either place.

 

[Laughing]

Google result for "desert digital camo years?"

Desert Camouflage Uniform - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

MARPAT - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Marine Pattern, @carbuff is very clever!

2002- early 2005

 

[Detailz]

I've a theory.
All of these physical anomalies, facial asymmetrical growth, the teeth, jaw and feeding tube, in conjunction with the geographical location and the pollen analysis of Arizona makes me suspect this female child had Retts Syndrome.
Retts Syndrome is a rare Genetic, actually chromosomal disorder.
It effects almost always females and symptoms show within the first year.

Wikiwand - Rett syndrome

Rett syndrome (RTT) is a genetic disorder that typically becomes apparent after 6–18 months of age and almost exclusively in females. Symptoms include impairments in language and coordination, and repetitive movements. Those affected often have slower growth, difficulty walking, and a smaller...

www.wikiwand.com

I believe there's a chance the child had this disorder. There's treatment centers in Houston and Dallas that deal with this syndrome. Plus others in Arizona. Which would account for the pollen on the clothing.
Here's the list of Retts Syndrome treatment centers in Texas. Located in Houston and Dallas. Here's the nationwide locations of SOME of the clinics for Retts syndrome

Rett Syndrome Clinics - International Rett Syndrome Foundation

www.rettsyndrome.org

Retts syndrome is progressively degenerative. It can and usually does around the age of 2 result in seizures that can become very severe. Loss of ability to eat, GERD, and loss of motor-control. It can be tested for on the blood with a drop of blood to test for this rare, debilitating disorder.
IF she does have Retts Syndrome, Texas has the most indepth Retts Registry for patients with this disorder.

The Rett Syndrome Global Registry and How to Use it

The Registry is a fully remote, internet-accessible, parent- and caregiver-reported database to centralize your loved one’s information that help contribute to developing treatments for Rett syndrome.

reverserett.org

Also this would account for the feeding tube. This syndrome usually it effects the ability to swallow food, walk, hand movements, speech. If they were to test the blood and find Retts Syndrome in the chromosomal structure.
There are other syndromes that are like Retts Syndrome such as
Angelman's Syndrome

What is Angelman Syndrome – Angelman Syndrome Foundation

www.angelman.org

I believe if they tested for both to rule these out as possibilities first it would be more beneficial to identifying her.
IF she had a rare Genetic or chromosomal disorder or would narrow down the geographic center for treatment and the parents.

 

[Bit of hope]

I've a theory.
All of these physical anomalies, facial asymmetrical growth, the teeth, jaw and feeding tube, in conjunction with the geographical location and the pollen analysis of Arizona makes me suspect this female child had Retts Syndrome.
Retts Syndrome is a rare Genetic, actually chromosomal disorder.
It effects almost always females and symptoms show within the first year.

Wikiwand - Rett syndrome

Rett syndrome (RTT) is a genetic disorder that typically becomes apparent after 6–18 months of age and almost exclusively in females. Symptoms include impairments in language and coordination, and repetitive movements. Those affected often have slower growth, difficulty walking, and a smaller...

www.wikiwand.com

I believe there's a chance the child had this disorder. There's treatment centers in Houston and Dallas that deal with this syndrome. Plus others in Arizona. Which would account for the pollen on the clothing.
Here's the list of Retts Syndrome treatment centers in Texas. Located in Houston and Dallas. Here's the nationwide locations of SOME of the clinics for Retts syndrome

Rett Syndrome Clinics - International Rett Syndrome Foundation

www.rettsyndrome.org

Retts syndrome is progressively degenerative. It can and usually does around the age of 2 result in seizures that can become very severe. Loss of ability to eat, GERD, and loss of motor-control. It can be tested for on the blood with a drop of blood to test for this rare, debilitating disorder.
IF she does have Retts Syndrome, Texas has the most indepth Retts Registry for patients with this disorder.

The Rett Syndrome Global Registry and How to Use it

The Registry is a fully remote, internet-accessible, parent- and caregiver-reported database to centralize your loved one’s information that help contribute to developing treatments for Rett syndrome.

reverserett.org

Also this would account for the feeding tube. This syndrome usually it effects the ability to swallow food, walk, hand movements, speech. If they were to test the blood and find Retts Syndrome in the chromosomal structure.
There are other syndromes that are like Retts Syndrome such as
Angelman's Syndrome

What is Angelman Syndrome – Angelman Syndrome Foundation

www.angelman.org

I believe if they tested for both to rule these out as possibilities first it would be more beneficial to identifying her.
IF she had a rare Genetic or chromosomal disorder or would narrow down the geographic center for treatment and the parents.

Thank you for your insights. Interesting. Maybe she has this disorder, but would testing for a genetic of chromosomal disorder be a bit working around the essence? Wouldn't it be more effective to use genetic DNA analyses to link this little one directly to family? Does somebody know if there is an DNA expert or agency working on this case?

 

[Laughing]

Well let's send out the WS Bat Signal!

@othram , are you familiar with this small decedent?

ETA: Whoops! We apparently both missed that up thread, we're told that Identifinders is working on this one!

Home - Identifinders International, LLC

Thanks, Laughing

Re: forensic genealogy, yes it seems that Identifinders is involved.

2016 Baby Madison - Identifinders International, LLC

In September 2016 a black suitcase was discovered off Interstate 45 in Madisonville, Texas. Packed inside the suitcase was a pink dress with hearts and butterflies that said ''Follow Your Dreams'' a size-4 diaper, and the skeletal remains of a girl with a feeding tube. The Madisonville Sheriff's...

identifinders.com

Anyone have a contact there?

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[Bit of hope]

Re: forensic genealogy, yes it seems that Identifinders is involved.

2016 Baby Madison - Identifinders International, LLC

In September 2016 a black suitcase was discovered off Interstate 45 in Madisonville, Texas. Packed inside the suitcase was a pink dress with hearts and butterflies that said ''Follow Your Dreams'' a size-4 diaper, and the skeletal remains of a girl with a feeding tube. The Madisonville Sheriff's...

identifinders.com

Anyone have a contact there?

jmho ymmv lrr

Thanks again @Laughing.

 

[LucyOso]

Thank you for your insights. Interesting. Maybe she has this disorder, but would testing for a genetic of chromosomal disorder be a bit working around the essence? Wouldn't it be more effective to use genetic DNA analyses to link this little one directly to family? Does somebody know if there is an DNA expert or agency working on this case?

Bit-I agree. There could be a disorder, there are many that can present that way. There can also be many non-genetic reasons for anomalies as well. I think DNA to locate family is the best bet as well.

 

[Detailz]

Actually, IF she did have a genetic disorder that would SUBSTANTIALLY narrow the field from Billions of females to only about 10,000.
There are currently only 11,000 persons with Retts Syndrome in the US. IF they sent the blood to a genetic lab that tests for Retts and other disorders like these listed below

Rett Syndrome Diagnosis - International Rett Syndrome Foundation

www.rettsyndrome.org

To confirm or confirm she doesn't have it isn't a waste of time.
If she DOES have this disorder that only effects 1 in every 10,000 to 1 in every 15,000 births it would actually help.
The Texas Retts Registry has the largest Registry of Retts Syndrome patients in the world. If she had Retts they could utilize the Registry to identify her, her physician, her name, age, her address, and her parents. The Registry tracks the disorder throughout the world.

Epidemiology of Rett syndrome: a population-based registry - PubMed

The Texas Rett Syndrome Registry maintains the largest population-based registry of cases and potential cases of Rett syndrome in the world. The most precise estimate of the prevalence of Rett syndrome of 1 per 22800 (0.44/10000) females aged 2 through 18 years of age was generated from this...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What would normally take years to find out, could be found out in weeks.
That's if she had that diagnosis. But blood just sitting and not being tested isn't doing anything for anyone. And yes a warrant could by-pass all patient info security laws if they believe a homicide occurred.
What would take normally years to shift through Billions would then whittle it down toward searching through only 11k US cases for a match which I'm sure her DNA profile would already be on storage there or (the location of the test sample would be known) if she had Retts Syndrome. That or Angelman's Syndrome.
I think testing for a Genetic anomaly is actually the most intelligent, fastest, and would yield the most accurate personal info on her.

 

[Detailz]

This is the distance from the Blue Bird Rett Center in Houston to Madisonville Texas where the child's body was found.
BOTH are of I-45
and 102 miles away.
They should contact the Blue Bird Retts Center in Houston, Texas
Blue Bird Circle Rett Center, Texas Children’s Hospital, Houston, Texas, (832) 822-3751, toll-free at 1-(888)-430-7388
Just to be sure. Usually in these cases the Texas Retts Registry would have her DNA on file of she were a confirmed Retts patient and they surely should be able Ryu identify her stove there are only 10000 cases in the US and if she ever were in that Texas hospital.
BOTH the hospital in Dallas and the hospital at Blue Bird Retts Center and the city of Madisonville are ALL off INTERSTATE 45.
See map below

 

[Bit of hope]

Identifinders (Colleen Fitzpatrick) is working her case. Take a look at their fb page.

Looks like they still working on it. Identifinders just recently posted (Sept.17, 2022) on their FB page about this little one, asking people to upload DNA to FTDNA and to GEDmatch and to encourage everyone they know with ancestry from El Salvador or Nuevo Leon, Mexico to upload their DNA.

From this article

2016 Baby Madison - Identifinders International, LLC

In September 2016 a black suitcase was discovered off Interstate 45 in Madisonville, Texas. Packed inside the suitcase was a pink dress with hearts and butterflies that said ''Follow Your Dreams'' a size-4 diaper, and the skeletal remains of a girl with a feeding tube. The Madisonville Sheriff's...

identifinders.com

Her remains also suggested that she had a jaw condition known as micrognathia, a condition where her lower jaw appeared small and may have affected her ability to eat on her own.

I'm not a medical specialist so if you google this condition............

Micrognathia | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

Micrognathia is characterized by an undersized jaw. It is a symptom of many craniofacial conditions treated by CHOP’s Craniofacial Program.

www.chop.edu

What is micrognathia​

Micrognathia is a condition in which the lower jaw is undersized. It is a symptom of a variety of craniofacial conditions. Sometimes called mandibular hypoplasia, micrognathia may interfere with your child’s feeding and breathing.
Micrognathia is fairly common in infants, and can often corrects itself as your child grows. In some children, micrognathia can cause abnormal tooth alignment because there is not enough room in your child’s mouth for the teeth to grow. Micrognathia can present as a birth defect in numerous syndromes, including cleft lip, cleft palate, Pierre Robin sequence or syndrome, Stickler’s syndrome, Beckwith-Wiedemann syndrome, hemifacial microsomia, Treacher Collins syndrome and others.

 

[Detailz]

Karyotype testing , the testing of the chromosomal structure for abnormalities that produce a rare Genetic disorder or syndrome needs to be done.
Citing:

Karyotyping

Each pair of chromosomes appears to have its own "bar code" of characteristic bands when viewed in the ordered arrangement of chromosomes known as a karyotype. Clinical cytogeneticists study karyotypes of human chromosomes to identify gross structural changes and numerical abnormalities that can...

www.nature.com

They need to RULE OUT a genetic disorder.
Why? Because the rare disorders caused by these chromosomal structure irregularities lead to disorders that occur in 1 in 10,000 births to 1 in, 15,000 births.
That attempt to diagnose the child would make the genetic matching VERY VERY easy.
I would test the blood via Karyotype testing.
Diagnose her illness, (if there is one) and consult the globalor regional registry for children with that specific disorder. In that registry, would be the patient's family tree to track the Genealogy of this disease and the parent's information, primary care physician, and are and age with vitals of the patient.
Just my opinion.
I think this child had a rare disorder. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, Karyotype that blood. Yesterday

 

[carbuff]

Testing the girl for genetic diseases is probably legal, but I don't think they could do the rest of that search without more evidence of probable cause of a connection?

 

[meanmaryjean]

Testing the girl for genetic diseases is probably legal, but I don't think they could do the rest of that search without more evidence of probable cause of a connection?

And again there is no searchable national database of individual medical records.