panthergiraffe
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In summary of my previous posts I would like to iterate the following points which are what I have been led to believe about the case based on the available information.
1. Leroy is unlikely to be the culprit.
Leroy attended the inquest and voluntarily gave information which led to the police reinvestigating. If Tresco estates were somehow covering up for his crime it is unlikely he would have done that. He also mentioned having a conversation with tristan dorrien smith about joshs behaviour outside the shed. If Tresco estates were covering up for him it would be unlikely Leroy would implicate the son of the landlord. Josh also had no injuries.
2. The body was likely to have been hidden on a boat
The examination noted that the body had not been in the water the full time due to lack of damage to his body. That would mean he would have had to have been on the beach at Tresco or on the rocks at Tean for a significant period of time. Helicopters were flying overhead and would have spotted josh if he was on the rocks at Tean. The beaches were searched on Tresco and he was not there. The only other possible way that his body was not in the water the full time is that it spent time on a boat.
3 The golf buggies were used to move the body to a location where it could be picked up by boat
Three golf buggies and 1 van were taken and damaged on the night but the youths on the island only admitted taking the van and 1 golf buggy. Who drove and damaged the golf buggies and where they went with them has not been investigated by the police.
4 There is something wrong with the toxicology report
Josh was drinking on the night. He was also at a shed where the staff go specifically to smoke cannabis. He was seen smoking cannabis on the evening. His cigarettes were unopened. Despite this the toxicology came back negative for cannabis. Which begs the question what else magically disappeared after an unexplained 15 day delay to the autopsy being performed.
5 There is scope to consider drink spiking playing a role in this case.
Descriptions of josh's behaviour on the night vary. One described him as his 'normal affectionate self' other describe him as 'smashed'. The toxicology said he was 2.5 times the drink drive limit which is not severely intoxicated. He went from 'noticeably stumbling' to leroys description of 'ranting and raving' outside the shed. I was warned first hand that staff were harvesting atropine from brugmansea sanguinea to spike drinks. One of the main symptoms of atropine ingestion is agitated delerium. The toxicology said no drugs were found in his system. But the toxicology result contradicts the witness statements who saw Josh smoking cannabis and the fact that his cigarettes were unopened. If one drug magically disappeared after an unexplained 15 day delay to the autopsy what else magically disappeared.
6 The police destruction of Josh's clothes is suspicious when you consider point number 2.
Josh's body given the available information it would appear to have been hidden on a boat for some period of time. 10 days passed and that body would have potentially have been leaking blood. Moving a body on and off a boat would require handling it therefore would potentially leave evidence behind in the blood on the shirt such as finger or handprints in blood. The police said it was unlikely there was anything forensically usable on the t shirt because it had been in saltwater for a number of days but potentially handprints or fingerprints left in blood soaked through the t shirt while applying pressure when handling the body could have remained which would indicate the body had been handled after death.
7. Josh was 'protective of friends' which gives scope for a motive for someone to target him
The females on the island particularly face certain levels of harrassment. Josh created a buddy system so that nobody walked home alone. His protective behaviour towards friends could have been an obstacle to predatory behaviour which may have caused someone to target him. He was at a shed full of fights, drugs and sexual assaults. A nice person is often a target in such environments.
1. Leroy is unlikely to be the culprit.
Leroy attended the inquest and voluntarily gave information which led to the police reinvestigating. If Tresco estates were somehow covering up for his crime it is unlikely he would have done that. He also mentioned having a conversation with tristan dorrien smith about joshs behaviour outside the shed. If Tresco estates were covering up for him it would be unlikely Leroy would implicate the son of the landlord. Josh also had no injuries.
2. The body was likely to have been hidden on a boat
The examination noted that the body had not been in the water the full time due to lack of damage to his body. That would mean he would have had to have been on the beach at Tresco or on the rocks at Tean for a significant period of time. Helicopters were flying overhead and would have spotted josh if he was on the rocks at Tean. The beaches were searched on Tresco and he was not there. The only other possible way that his body was not in the water the full time is that it spent time on a boat.
3 The golf buggies were used to move the body to a location where it could be picked up by boat
Three golf buggies and 1 van were taken and damaged on the night but the youths on the island only admitted taking the van and 1 golf buggy. Who drove and damaged the golf buggies and where they went with them has not been investigated by the police.
4 There is something wrong with the toxicology report
Josh was drinking on the night. He was also at a shed where the staff go specifically to smoke cannabis. He was seen smoking cannabis on the evening. His cigarettes were unopened. Despite this the toxicology came back negative for cannabis. Which begs the question what else magically disappeared after an unexplained 15 day delay to the autopsy being performed.
5 There is scope to consider drink spiking playing a role in this case.
Descriptions of josh's behaviour on the night vary. One described him as his 'normal affectionate self' other describe him as 'smashed'. The toxicology said he was 2.5 times the drink drive limit which is not severely intoxicated. He went from 'noticeably stumbling' to leroys description of 'ranting and raving' outside the shed. I was warned first hand that staff were harvesting atropine from brugmansea sanguinea to spike drinks. One of the main symptoms of atropine ingestion is agitated delerium. The toxicology said no drugs were found in his system. But the toxicology result contradicts the witness statements who saw Josh smoking cannabis and the fact that his cigarettes were unopened. If one drug magically disappeared after an unexplained 15 day delay to the autopsy what else magically disappeared.
6 The police destruction of Josh's clothes is suspicious when you consider point number 2.
Josh's body given the available information it would appear to have been hidden on a boat for some period of time. 10 days passed and that body would have potentially have been leaking blood. Moving a body on and off a boat would require handling it therefore would potentially leave evidence behind in the blood on the shirt such as finger or handprints in blood. The police said it was unlikely there was anything forensically usable on the t shirt because it had been in saltwater for a number of days but potentially handprints or fingerprints left in blood soaked through the t shirt while applying pressure when handling the body could have remained which would indicate the body had been handled after death.
7. Josh was 'protective of friends' which gives scope for a motive for someone to target him
The females on the island particularly face certain levels of harrassment. Josh created a buddy system so that nobody walked home alone. His protective behaviour towards friends could have been an obstacle to predatory behaviour which may have caused someone to target him. He was at a shed full of fights, drugs and sexual assaults. A nice person is often a target in such environments.