UK - Rebecca Joynes, teacher, accused of sex offence against 2 pupils

[LadyL]

IMO
The pink bonnet seems to be a blatant reminder of her pregnancy.
As if to try to force lenient sentence.

JMO

so she's currently pregnant again?

 

[Dotta]

so she's currently pregnant again?

Ooops
Hmmm....IDK
So,
if not pregnancy,
then reminding of motherhood.
Of a child waiting at home.

JMO

 

[Parker Knoll]

I don’t think she’s pregnant atm.
It’s never been reported as far as I know at this stage.

 

[Dotta]

I don’t think she’s pregnant atm.
It’s never been reported as far as I know at this stage.

This is all mindboggling.
I can only imagine the atmosphere in the school she was employed in,
pupils'parents' outrage and all kinds of gossip...

And then I recall another teacher - Fiona B.
waiting for her sentence...
Geez!

JMO

 

[Parker Knoll]

School has definitely changed since my days !
We were all pretty terrified of the teachers and the random black board eraser that may come hurtling your way if you were not paying attention :-(

 

[Luwin]

I wonder if the baby hat is some message to boy b and his family? Wonder if he or his family have any contact with the baby. Must be really awkward all round if they do

 

[OrangeCash]

I wonder if the baby hat is some message to boy b and his family?

That's what I think. Totally inappropriate MOO

I have questions around it but I feel like it would open a can of worms that would make me angry and leave me gobsmacked. Wondering whether baby is with Mum. Wondering if this was the other way around, if an older man who had sex with a school student would be allowed custody of a child. Like I said, can of worms and I'm not going to delve into it. Just wondering out loud

MOO

 

[Dotta]

Why was this person preying on schoolboys?
Her own pupils?
What was it with practising unprotected sex???
And boom!
Suddenly she got pregnant!
And a 15 year old becomes a father.

I bet her shenanigans were an "open secret" among boys in this school.
Even boy's brother knew.
Was having a baby by this teen a kind of warped objective?
Why is she blatantly bringing a baby bonnet to Court?

I guess some psychiatric examination is due.

JMO

 

[OrangeCash]

I've never had a baby, does anyone know if you're asked about the father when you go to doctor's appointments etc? I would imagine you're allowed to not disclose(?) I wonder what RJ said. I wonder what she said to family, friends, online etc.
MOO

 

[BackseatDriver]

I've never had a baby, does anyone know if you're asked about the father when you go to doctor's appointments etc? I would imagine you're allowed to not disclose(?) I wonder what RJ said. I wonder what she said to family, friends, online etc.
MOO

Yes (in the UK at least). You're generally asked for name, address, DOB, occupation, paternal medical history and whether they are genetically related (e.g. cousins) at your booking appointment which happens around the 8 week mark. I presume you have rights to refuse whichever questions you wish to though.

All IME

 

[LadyL]

Ooops
Hmmm....IDK
So,
if not pregnancy,
then reminding of motherhood.
Of a child waiting at home.

JMO

and her baby was a boy
so, she may be hinting at another pregnancy ... ?

 

[OceanElix]

and her baby was a boy
so, she may be hinting at another pregnancy ... ?

I thought the baby was a girl, this article mentions daughter and could explain the pink bonnet RJ keeps stuffing in her trousers

But it later emerged that Joynes had been in a long-term sexual relationship with another teenage boy she had been in contact with while suspended.

The youngster is the father of Joynes’s young daughter.

Link:

Mum stormed school reception ‘after son spent night with teacher’

Boy A told jurors he and the teacher exchanged messages on Snapchat and she picked him up after school on a Friday

www.independent.co.uk

 

[LadyL]

I thought the baby was a girl, this article mentions daughter and could explain the pink bonnet RJ keeps stuffing in her trousers


Link:

Mum stormed school reception ‘after son spent night with teacher’

Boy A told jurors he and the teacher exchanged messages on Snapchat and she picked him up after school on a Friday

www.independent.co.uk

oh ok the earlier reports must've been wrong or I misread
and it certainly makes more sense if it's a girl

 

[Parker Knoll]

Everything heard in the trial of teacher accused of having sex with pupils
Everything heard in the trial of teacher accused of having sex with pupils

Some info in this link I hadn’t heard previously.

 

[Luwin]

Everything heard in the trial of teacher accused of having sex with pupils
Everything heard in the trial of teacher accused of having sex with pupils

Some info in this link I hadn’t heard previously.

From the article -
He went on to admit that he lied in his first interview with the police because he ‘wanted to protect her'. "I now realise I shouldn’t have. I thought if I didn't tell the truth she might get away with it and I [wouldn't get custody] of my child,” he said.

 

[Dotta]

What does "teacher" mean?

1) a person who imparts knowledge to others,

is endowed with authority
and serves as a role model;

2) a specialist appropriately prepared to conduct teaching and educational work in educational institutions.

This person is not worthy to be called a Teacher.

IMO (as a teacher myself)

I'm disgusted by this case.

When basic values are crumbling,
then Society starts crumbling too.

 

[Skigh]

‘Lonely’ teacher says she craved attention but denies having sex with boys

Rebecca Joynes, 30, denies six sex offences involving two teenage boys.

www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk

She gave birth to a daughter she had with Boy B.

Mr O’Brien said: “Do you want to tell us what happened?”

Joynes, breaking down in tears, replied: “An emergency court hearing was held and she was taken off me 24 hours after she was born.

“At the moment I have got contact with her three times a week for three hours. That’s it.”

 

[BreadnLumpit]

Ahhhh! I think that may be what the pink bonnet thing is all about - highlighting the "injustice" of her child being protected from her

Just for a moment I'm going to leave aside the grossness of Ms Joynes' abusive behaviour to ask: Are we really at a point where an actual qualified teacher uses the phrase "she was taken off me"?

 

[Skigh]

Ahhhh! I think that may be what the pink bonnet thing is all about - highlighting the "injustice" of her child being protected from her

Just for a moment I'm going to leave aside the grossness of Ms Joynes' abusive behaviour to ask: Are we really at a point where an actual qualified teacher uses the phrase "she was taken off me"?

England is so short of maths teachers that they are willing to appoint anyone who has even the most basic qualifications for the job.

 

[Dotta]

What will happen to the Baby girl?
Will she be adopted?
Will she stay in foster family for the time being?
What about the father?
He is still a minor, under 18, no?
Will he be involved in daughter's life?
Will he get custody of her later on?

I'm worried about this child.

Maybe grandparents can take care of the little girl.
Better to stay with family.

JMO