WA - Unidentified Male: "Lyle Stevik", Grays Harbor, 17 Sept 2001 - #2

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coldcaseman said:
He did look very thin. His clothing seemed to be hanging on his frame (although that seems to be a popular style). The clue to me that it wasn't necessarily his style was the belt. Using all of the notches leads me to believe he lost the weight, but continued to wear the larger size.
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Nice to see you again :)

I guess he liked the idea of baggy pants
 
If I've done this right, you should have some photos of Lyle showing his ear, and two photos of the money he left.
 
If you notice his sideburn area of his hair, it isn't really that long. He probably had a haircut within the last 6 wks. Just going by when I usually trim up my sons hair.
 
outofthedark said:
Could be your computer actually
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That's the screen I'm getting...any other ideas?




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That's the screen I'm getting...any other ideas?






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Here's mine:



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docwho3 said:
Here are some of the pics that cold case man wanted to share with us.
I hope and I think that I got the ones he wanted. Any mistakes in which pics to post are most likely my own mistakes.

*Warning: Graphic Photos*
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/docwho3/lyle/detlyle2.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/docwho3/lyle/detlle3c.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/docwho3/lyle/detlyle4.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/docwho3/lyle/detlle5c.jpg
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Thanks a ton docwho!! :dance:
 
Yes, thank you docwho3 for getting the photos out and coldcaseman for sharing them with us. They make Lyle's case seem all the more poignant and real.

It's interesting, also, to see the belt buckle. It looks like a more feminine design, as most men's belt buckles are plain, without the etchings (I could be way off track here, as I only notice one man's belt buckle nowadays. :blushing: hee!) It's difficult to tell if the belt is narrower, like a woman's belt, but it doesn't look like a really wide "manly man" belt to me.
 
annemc2 said:
Yes, thank you docwho3 for getting the photos out and coldcaseman for sharing them with us. They make Lyle's case seem all the more poignant and real.

It's interesting, also, to see the belt buckle. It looks like a more feminine design, as most men's belt buckles are plain, without the etchings (I could be way off track here, as I only notice one man's belt buckle nowadays. :blushing: hee!) It's difficult to tell if the belt is narrower, like a woman's belt, but it doesn't look like a really wide "manly man" belt to me.
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I found some pictures of buckles that are sort of close in size and design as near as I can tell without being the same. (I use the word "close" loosely in this case.) I will try to find what I did with the links and post some. The belt company's website had other pics that might have matched better but they were such poor quality and dark images that I could not tell anything about detail.
 
I'm trying to make arrangements to examine the belt. I don't recall seeing a manufacturers name, but I'll double check. The belt was not wide, about 1 1/2 inches. I felt the buckle had sort of a western look to it.
 
Wow! In that second pic just posted, it is amazing to me how he looks like an Indian brave. The staunch perfect jaw and chin, the little hump on his nose - well the whole image now is pretty solid for me that he was an Indian. What kind, I'll have to look now, but I'm thinking from the Dakotas or Montana.

I'm trying to figure out if he is lying on his back or sitting up, or since it looks like I see the belt in that 2nd pic, was he not taken down yet? Hmm, I've never seen anything like this in my life!~

It is a much more substantial belt than I thought. It looks to be in good shape, not frayed or anything, so it doesn't look really that old.


Thanks for that Coldcaseman. Scandi
 
Here are a few belt pics. As I said before sort of similar but not exactly the same. I have not looked at all the belt designs this site has. But everyone please feel free to look.

http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4637631/RS36.jpg
http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4637631/Fishbone%20Jr%20Slim%20Profiles.jpg
http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4637631/RS39.jpg
http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4637631/RS39GP.jpg
http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4637631/High%20Tech%20Slim%20Profiles.jpg
http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4637631/Silver%20Plume.jpg
Shop from this page and click links to type of buckle to be viewed
http://gallery.bcentral.com/GID4637631DD424123-Belts-and-Buckles.aspx

I think our belt & buckle may be a slight bit more um . . .common.

Edited to add: I seem to remember a belt style that use that white thread stitching and I think it well may have been a western style. It seems that white thread stitching was big a few years back but I can't seem to remember what years. When I have more time I will look for it if you all have not already found a sample.
 
Lyle is laying down in both photos. He is still wearing the belt. Standard procedure is to leave the ligature on the body until it is removed by the pathologist.
I'm trying to figure out if he is lying on his back or sitting up, or since it looks like I see the belt in that 2nd pic, was he not taken down yet? Hmm, I've never seen anything like this in my life!~

It is a much more substantial belt than I thought. It looks to be in good shape, not frayed or anything, so it doesn't look really that old.


Thanks for that Coldcaseman. Scandi[/QUOTE]
 
I have a belt that has a similar design on the strap- but it has a plain buckle though. I have no idea who the manufacturer is as I had found it laying around somewhere- I know it has a fancy design of the letter "P" on the back, along with a faded digit of 49722- and they're both imprinted in white

Were there any pictures taken of his notes closeup? Perhaps someone can identify his handwriting
 
I have a photocopy of them, I'll see if I can get a digital photo of them posted.
 
Thanks Coldcaseman, Lying down. Hmm I had even turned my head sideways and couldn't quite see it that way. LOL

He is really very handsome and seemingly in perfect shape except for a few tiny spots, probably little moles. The reddisness on his face near his hairline, is that just shadow? Maybe the fact he is so skinny allows the bone structure to stand out more that makes me see the traditional Indian features, but if that was a braid aside his neck instead of a belt, I could just see him up on his horse with a single feather in his hair.

We must be able to determine what kind of an Indian he was, if he was one. He is the classic one for painting for sure. Was his photo shown to an anthropologist? Last night I watched the show on MSNBC about the forensic anthropologist with the LA coroners office. She said there is a way to tell where someone's ancestors are from by studying the bone in some way. Maybe it was the DNA from the bone is what she meant.

Scandi
 
With ancient remains, there can be tell tale signs in the shape of the skull, and they could determine what tribe a person was from. Nowadays, it can be very difficult determining race, let alone a particular region or tribe with any degree of accuracy. It was felt at the time that he had some Native American features, but he also has some Caucasian ones as well.
 
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