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RSBMThank You for the replies regarding the ability for anyone to request their property be blurred on google. They must've responded quite quickly to the neighbor's request then.
Many of the houses look maintained, and have solar panels. IMO, it's a nice middle class neighborhood. I, too, noticed how overgrown the grass got at one time. Did someone become ill? More than one vehicle in the driveway makes me question how many people lived there; however, I'm not sure those vehicles were moved or driven, maybe it was somebody that liked working on cars.
In my area of the world, the name(s) of dead and injured are not printed or broadcast until after LE has notified the next of kin. It's a courtesy to keep people from learning bad news while driving and in such a traumatic way.My point is that if you and I can find it - so could a reporter, so there has to be a reason that such info is routinely left out of news articles unless it comes from LE or the Courts (just like here on WS).
JMO
If this were the case, the body would have been immediately frozen, and it would be fairly easy to observe if there were traumatic injuries. But evidently, the body was not in good condition.Could it be possible that the person, if they were frail, unwell or elderly, fell into the freezer. They may have been holding on to the lid which closed on top of them and they were either knocked out and/or too frail to push open the lld from inside
I don't recall ever hearing of a case where that happened, but is it possible.
Re the family visiting and why they looked into the freezer, could the power have gone off and they smelt something, though I guess most people would just think it was rotting food.
Unless the power was cut off, possibly for non payment of bills.If this were the case, the body would have been immediately frozen, and it would be fairly easy to observe if there were traumatic injuries. But evidently, the body was not in good condition.
In my area of the world, the name(s) of dead and injured are not printed or broadcast until after LE has notified the next of kin. It's a courtesy to keep people from learning bad news while driving and in such a traumatic way.
How possible is this that it could be body parts from the nearby Kaiser? Long shot but curious
I expect that they will wait until they have a positive ID using dental records or…I wonder if law enforcement is going to wait on announcing any details on the victim until the forensics come back from the lab.
They may "know" who the person is, but if the body was too badly decomposed for a visual ID, they may want scientific confirmation before making a public statement.
I wonder if law enforcement is going to wait on announcing any details on the victim until the forensics come back from the lab.
They may "know" who the person is, but if the body was too badly decomposed for a visual ID, they may want scientific confirmation before making a public statement.
Maybe the out of town relatives brought the body with them?I wonder if the “out-of-town” family was there because the relative who owned the house had recently died (or gone to a nursing home) and family came in from out of town to go through their stuff ? It seems strange that the owner would willingly let their family members stay there knowing they might open that freezer.
Facebook groups changed MANY things. Instead of waiting for print or radio news, people raced to the town's Facebook group and had all the details sooner.I don't know where you are, but in my lifetime in California, local news policies have been all over the place. Right now, everything is on lock down and we get little information (and people complain). When I was a teen and young adult, we got all the gory details (and whatever names were known) very soon. Manson Family Murders are one example, but the EARONS/GSK case near my hometown was another. The details were in the paper, on the radio, on TV, etc.
Things go back and forth. Times change (I think it goes in waves and cycles). Interesting justification (so people don't learn bad news while driving - that would be awful, although people learn bad news in many traumatic ways, despite what journalist rules say - there's X/Twitter; etc)
I think waiting to notify next of kin is a good custom. However, that's LE policy - it doesn't have to bind reporters and their investigations. I mean, we here on WS go and sleuth things. I can't imagine that driving in a car (even with an all news channel) is going to result in something faster than a tweet, a text, an FB message, etc.
People are finding out anyway, is my point. I feel badly for LE, who have to try and stay ahead of all this (and somehow capture culprits and garner information while it's still available).
JMO
...My guess is that the body is that of the woman who lived in that house, whose family members came to visit. They already know the worst - I hope they are given certainty soon. If it's a crime (which it appears to be), then it is of wider public interest.
While anything is possible, I think the scenario you suggest is the most likely. As far as why the death wasn't reported, the most likely scenarios to me are: (1) Co resident may be of diminished capacity, and didn't know what to do (2) Hiding death to continue to collect benefits (3) Didn't have the money for burial / cremation (4) HomicideI agree with others about someone looking to continue receiving benefits, tax breaks on the property, access earnings, etc. despite the death of the true recipient; a female co resident.
My guess it’s an adult son living in his probably childhood home.
Noticeable in many older neighborhoods in SD is the difference between legacy properties and the shiny new homeowners.
The tall weeds and assorted stuff, being rundown comparatively, is some indication of a casual subsequent generation.
I did wonder:
If maybe the, for example, son has informed other family of a death but never actually called authorities or otherwise officially reported it and then decided to save some money on services or cremation and avoiding the undesirable legal work utilized the freezer as a convenient and spacious alternative.
These days there are often casual gatherings of remembrance without funeral homes or viewings of the deceased.
The death and the placement may have been separated by time spent in indecision or avoidance until coming up with the freezer solution.
I would have thought there would be an immediate arrest in this scenario but maybe it was pleaded that it was a natural death or the victim was known to be terminal so the charges need to be determined?
For why a person would do this and then have out of town family to visit in the home I guess there's something not right to start with so further lack of awareness wouldn’t be unexpected.
all imo
Facebook groups changed MANY things. Instead of waiting for print or radio news, people raced to the town's Facebook group and had all the details sooner.
The "pending notification of next of kin" was a long-standing spirit of cooperation that existed between LE and the "powers that be". Now, often the reporters had all the names and info, just waiting to release it when the boss said it was ok. Reporters were on the phone, gathering the information in preparation of release time, but there was a definite concerted cooperation among the multiple agencies.
Now, from my perspective, looking back, I suspect "the hold to release" agreement likely covered other occasions that might have tended to be embarrassing or election-losing for certain people in power. They were covering and helping to cover each other's backsides. The editor I worked for had the absolute integrity he would NEVER have hidden a name - even for his own family. It might be briefly held, but not lost/hidden. The editor before and before that??? Can't say for sure.
I've driven myself to that hospital ER a couple of times. The freezer house is only a few blocks away from the hospital. Close enough to get medical help right away.
Kaiser Medical Center and Hospital down the hill going towards Mission Gorge.
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Just a side note-- This is right outside the hospital parking lot on Zion Ave. It looks like such a dangerous situation. That poor driver is risking his life to deliver
It is so strange! I see that house nearly every single day because my kids elementary school is literally across the street from it. The last time a true crime mainstream media worthy event happened in our neighborhood was back in 2016 when Krystal Mitchell was murdered in an apartment complex here. So glad that McLeod was finally captured recently for that one.Even closer than my BIL. I expect you’ll be taking lots of walks checking it out. ;-)