Gardenista
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while i 100% agree that Paul should get a hefty sentence, I genuinely believe that his mother manipulated and controlled him. He also has obvious neurological issues and seemed to think his mother was a saving grace so to speak from his already crappy life he had in Oklahoma with his father. He obviously never had a good role model and was also afraid of his mother. That's not to say that he couldn't have done more to help his brother, possibly sneak him a snack etc but he was also watched 24/7 by his mother to make sure he followed her demands. He didn't even have a bed to lay inI hope they both rot in prison. The 20 year-old's charges should be equal to his mother's IMO.
some great questions. I have recently came across this case and have delved in feet first. The information that I have stumbled across on YouTube from family/teachers/professionals indicate that Timothy, while having both and ASD and ADHD diagnosis, they have unanimously state that he was intellectually able and didnt need very much support but he did seem to crave attention (any wonder). In these statements they also give information about both Paul and Timothy's hygiene but all said they never witnessed any sign of physical abuse. All said that the biys would wear very dirty clothes and that Timothy used to shower at the school a few times a week and the teaching staff would launder his clothes for him. a teacher used to also put food into Timothy and his sister Millie's school bags on a Friday so they had soething for over the weekend, but also stated Timothy was always of a healthy weight. It was also reported that the children were locked in their room for most of the day and just seemed to be a burden to their fatherEric and his wife Trish. It would seem from the evidence the only thing their father did that their mother didn't was feed them. Help was offered to their father and his wife when the boys lived in Oklahoma with them and they repeatedly refused. Paul was also accused of SA on Timothy and he wasn't lkegally allowed to be near him. Shanda also had lost custody AND parental rights to all of her children (accused of SA and showing minors *advertiser censored*) so Timothy should never have been in her company never mind her care. More than just Paul and Shanda should be brought in front of the justice system due to what happened to Timothy.It really bothers me that the victim here is always referred to by the abusive family members as being disabled. From the testimony, we heard that he was verbal, mechanically inclined, and on grade level. The few interactions we had related sound normal to me (for the situation), such as telling the brother he soiled himself because he didn't want to disturb them. The foods he "stole" would make sense for a malnourished person to crave. He obviously could not cook them because he was sneaking to get them. The sneaking alone suggests he was trying to help himself in an advanced way.
I wonder if this boy was less functionally disabled than he is being represented by his family. The abusive brother has autistic mannerisms himself. If he is also on the spectrum, it may have made it easier for their mother to manipulate him.
Where is the dad? Shouldn't he be responsible in some way for giving the victim back to this woman? How badly were the boys treated at the dad and stepmom's house? I do those wall sits in an exercise class regularly and they are no joke. I can't do it for more than 30 seconds and I'm in good shape.
This woman must have hated this boy. That makes me so sad.
Adam had a stroke in January of 2022 and was living with his mother and father because he couldn't manage the stairs to get into his home with Shanda. His mother used to call to collect G for visits with his dad and she was never allowed into the home. Shanda even had her mother-in-law's phone put onto their family plan so she could use the "find my iphone" app to check her mother-in-law's movements and warn Paul how far away she was from the house so he could wait outside with G.Where was her current husband during all of this?
I have a different take. I do believe he’s on the spectrum. I also believe he was manipulated by his mom. But IMO he not only participated in the cruelty, he came up with some of the stuff on his own, and I believe he enjoyed it.while i 100% agree that Paul should get a hefty sentence, I genuinely believe that his mother manipulated and controlled him. He also has obvious neurological issues and seemed to think his mother was a saving grace so to speak from his already crappy life he had in Oklahoma with his father. He obviously never had a good role model and was also afraid of his mother. That's not to say that he couldn't have done more to help his brother, possibly sneak him a snack etc but he was also watched 24/7 by his mother to make sure he followed her demands. He didn't even have a bed to lay in
Agreed. She has no “memory holes“ when she’s working in her professional capacity.Ice baths, denial of food led to teen’s death by mother’s hand, Muskegon prosecutor says
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..she worked as a law clerk for Newaygo County Circuit Court and had graduated from law school, passed the bar exam but never was officially sworn in as an attorney.
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So what we have is a seemingly intelligent person, who graduated law school and was working professionally as a law clerk, claiming she is unable to remember many of the facts and text messages presented by the prosecution.
MOO, but I'm not buying any of that. If her memory was as bad as she claims, then logically there's no way she could have graduated law school and be working in the court system. Again, MOO.
Or little Tiffany Wright, who was locked up and systematically starved by her mother who spent her days and nights partying in the bar downstairs. Pure, unexplainable evil.This reminds of the "mother" of Taylor Rose, starved, abused, neglected her, all while going to her job everyday in the military, pretending to be "normal". Passing a military subsidized daycare on her way to work.
Who can even figure out these people who pretend to be normal? While being monsters to innocent children.
That's unbelievable, what they did to that poor boy. The girlfriend who delivered the fatal blow got life in prison with a minimum of 29 years. The father got 21 years which upon review was upped to 24.This case is so horrifying. But very similar to the case of Arthur Labinjo-Hughes, the little Birmingham UK boy who was tortured and murdered by his father and his father's girlfriend during Covid lockdown. Starved, beaten, food poisoned with salt instead of hot sauce, forced to sleep on the floor and watch other family members eat. Cameras following his every move. The two killers egged each other on via non-stop texts.
One of the saddest things I've ever heard in my life are his stepmother's recordings of that little boy begging for food and water and crying out for help from an uncle who could not hear him.
As hard as it is to believe that one individual could be so depraved as to do this to a child, it's that much harder to understand how TWO people could work together to do such things.