GUILTY NY - Ex-President Donald Trump, charged with 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records, Apr 2023, Trial 25 Mar 2024 #3

[Niner]

Will use this article as my reference in my notes.

Live updates: Donald Trump has been found guilty on all 34 counts

Live updates and latest news as jurors reach a verdict in the hush money trial of Donald Trump following testimony from Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen, David Pecker, and others.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Simply Southern]

Another serious question. Has anyone heard of a judge having the defense give their closing before the prosecution? I haven't and find this puzzling.

That's the first time I've ever heard of the defense presenting first.
Wondering is this New York law, or something the judge decided?
Moo.

 

[Lilibet]

That's the first time I've ever heard of the defense presenting first.
Wondering is this New York law, or something the judge decided?
Moo.

It varies by states and it’s NY law…

https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/1-General/CJI2d.PreSummation_Instructions.pdf

Under our law, defense counsel must sum up first, and the prosecutor must follow.

 

[Simply Southern]

It varies by states and it’s NY law…

https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/1-General/CJI2d.PreSummation_Instructions.pdf

Under our law, defense counsel must sum up first, and the prosecutor must follow.

Thanks, I did a read backwards and found it, as well. It just seemed odd.

You may can tell, I'm late joining the thread. Thanks again, for your help.

NY laws seems unique, moo.

 

[musicaljoke]

Thanks for posting Australian news.
I'm now curious about the interest in the Trump trial in other countries.

Can't find anything about it in the Moscow Times.

There is a basic, non-committed type of article in Al Jazeera:

"Media coverage of the hush-money case has described the process largely by using legal terms. But it is not always easy to understand judicial jargon like “indictment” and “arraignment”.

Below, Al Jazeera explains 12 basic legal terms that readers may frequently come across in the news and how they apply to the Trump trial."

Legal terms got you confused? 12 words to know as Trump’s trial closes

Al Jazeera looks at the range of legal language used to describe aspects of the former US president’s hush-money trial.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[legalmomma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796174279521812702

Yesterday, the parties conferred on which portions of the requested testimony should be read back to the jurors. Justice Merchan says that he read the disputed portions of testimony and decided it should all come in.

 

[musicaljoke]

Thanks, I did a read backwards and found it, as well. It just seemed odd.

You may can tell, I'm late joining the thread. Thanks again, for your help.

NY laws seems unique, moo.

There are many unique procedures, I expect, depending on what or whom the law has determined to have priority. In these parts (BC Canada) it is the evidence which makes the determination. If you presented evidence for your case, the defence will make the argument first, and the prosecutor will go second. If you did not present evidence, the prosecutor will go first

 

[legalmomma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796175129564574112

JUSTICE MERCHAN: We received another note. He reads it. The note describes what the jury wants to hear from jury instructions. Justice Merchan says he interprets the note as the jurors wanting to hear page 7-35 of the jury instructions.

 

[legalmomma]

Trump jury instructions link:

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Jury%20Instructions%20and%20Charges%20FINAL%205-23-24.pdf

 

[legalmomma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796176455396683817

Regarding the jury instruction re-read: Justice Merchan initially said he would start on page 7. But after some discussion with Trump's attorney, Todd Blanche, the judge says he'll begin on page 6 and end with page 35.

 

[legalmomma]

Live updates: Donald Trump has been found guilty on all 34 counts

Live updates and latest news as jurors reach a verdict in the hush money trial of Donald Trump following testimony from Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen, David Pecker, and others.

www.nbcnews.com

At 9:32 a.m., the judge said he received another note from the jury asking for him to re-read his instructions to the jury from page 7 through page 35.

The jury has also requested that they be provided with headphones for the laptop.

In asking for the headphones, the jury likely wants to listen to certain of the recordings, which could include the Sept. 2016 conversation that Steinglass encouraged them to revisit in his closing. He had told them that if they listened to it with the volume up, they would hear a reference to a possible $150,000 payment to Karen McDougal during that conversation.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Ex-Melania Trump aide reveals why she's not publicly defending Donald

Stephanie Winston Wolkoff said her former boss is trying to "avoid exposure" during her husband's New York City trial.

www.newsweek.com

Interesting

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I'm not surprised that some of the jurors would ask for headphones.
My laptop sound is more than loud enough for me to hear, but on some sites and programmes, it's quite low.

When I was following some coroners cases on Youtube, the sound was especially low volume so I used headphones.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I wonder what capabilities the juror room's laptop is missing.
I presume that it does have sound ? Maybe just not loud enough.

It's good that the jurors seem to be taking their duty seriously.

 

[crussell821]

Just refreshing the page and waiting…
Refreshing the page and waiting…

 

[legalmomma]

Live updates: Donald Trump has been found guilty on all 34 counts

Live updates and latest news as jurors reach a verdict in the hush money trial of Donald Trump following testimony from Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen, David Pecker, and others.

www.nbcnews.com

Everything the jury is hearing read back from the Pecker testimony this morning is about the alleged conspiracy to influence the election — not a word of this is about the 34 counts of falsifying business records, which is notable.

If the documents aren’t false records — the jury doesn’t even need to reach the question of whether the state has proven the other crime that bumps the charges up to the felony. Pecker was also the first witness, who testified weeks ago at this point, so jurors have heard a lot since that time. But they’ve also heard an instruction telling them they can’t convict Trump on Michael Cohen’s word alone under the law.

 

[Niner]

Okay - need help again - can not figure this out yet...

if the post said 6:17pm GMT +3 - what is the time in New York, please? TIA!

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Okay - need help again - can not figure this out yet...

if the post said 6:17pm GMT +3 - what is the time in New York, please? TIA!

I believe it would be 2:17 pm EST

 

[dspdenver]

Okay - need help again - can not figure this out yet...

if the post said 6:17pm GMT +3 - what is the time in New York, please? TIA!

I believe New York is GMT -4, so that would be 7 hours earlier, or 11:17 AM.

 

[Niner]

I believe it would be 2:17 pm EST

I believe New York is GMT -4, so that would be 7 hours earlier, or 11:17 AM.

I shall take the second answer, Alex... It is not yet 2pm in New York - it is only 11:45am - so going with the 11:17am time.
Thanks @dspdenver !