GUILTY NY - Ex-President Donald Trump, charged with 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records, Apr 2023, Trial 25 Mar 2024 #3

[IzzyBlanche]

Just heard on ABC radio. In Australia.

A US joumalist said that the jurors have access to a laptop in the jury room.
On this laptop they can go over evidence in the case .

I presume the laptop doesn't have internet access.
Or is court inhouse with only this trial related stuff.

The journalist was Jessica Scheider who is a CNN Justice Correspondent.

Correct. The laptop has evidence loaded on it, as I understand it. No outside access.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Hard for me to believe the defense claimed this never happened. Why bother with that when ample evidence indicates it did? Just acknowledge it and move on. Curious approach to me.

Trump Boasted About Sex With Stormy in Tahoe, Athlete Says

The athlete also told The Daily Beast that in the run-up to the 2016 election he received anonymous calls from strangers asking what he remembered of the weekend.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Hard for me to believe the defense claimed this never happened. Why bother with that when ample evidence indicates it did? Just acknowledge it and move on. Curious approach to me.

Trump Boasted About Sex With Stormy in Tahoe, Athlete Says

The athlete also told The Daily Beast that in the run-up to the 2016 election he received anonymous calls from strangers asking what he remembered of the weekend.

www.thedailybeast.com

IMO their client demanded it.

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey folks,

We don't much care about whose 'side' you're on here.

If you can't post with utmost respect to other members, you don't belong in discussion at Websleuths.

If the rudeness, bickering and snark continues, there will be permanent thread bans or worse.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

IMO their client demanded it.

His lawyers are certainly between a rock and a hard place. I hope they'll actually get paid.

 

[Izzylizzy]

error

 

[Izzylizzy]

Another serious question. Has anyone heard of a judge having the defense give their closing before the prosecution? I haven't and find this puzzling.

Judge Merchan addressed who goes first after Trump trashed him about it.
It's New York law and Merchan had nothing to do with it.

 

[Izzylizzy]

If found guilty, is judge fearless enough to impose a sentence of incarceration? Or is probation the most that could be hoped for?

I don't see him ever going to prison no matter what judge oversaw this case.

Take away his phone and any social media posting for a few years? hehe

 

[Izzylizzy]

How is any witness testimony "moot"?

Cohen was dismissed as a liar whose testimony was not believable.
Yet when the evidence presented by the state corroborates this admitted liars testimony it makes his prior lies moot.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Just heard on ABC radio. In Australia.

A US joumalist said that the jurors have access to a laptop in the jury room.
On this laptop they can go over evidence in the case .

I presume the laptop doesn't have internet access.
Or is court inhouse with only this trial related stuff.

The journalist was Jessica Scheider who is a CNN Justice Correspondent.

3m ago / 4:03 PM EDT
Judge asks DA's office to disable the WiFi on the jurors' laptop

Lisa Rubin and Kyla Guilfoil
Judge Merchan asked the district attorney's staff whether the laptop given to the jurors has WiFi capability.

When they confirmed that it does, he instructed them to disable it tonight.

Merchan also asked the parties how many pages in total they are looking to read back, per the requests in the first jury request. They say about 30, and Merchan asked for confirmation that it would amount to about a 30-minute readback

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...hush-money-case-jury-deliberations-rcna154410

 

[TootsieFootsie]

ABC Australian coverage of the verdict part of the trial.

Trump's hush money trial jurors have finished their first day of deliberations without a verdict. What happens now?

Jurors in Mr Trump's hush money trial finished their first day of closed-door deliberations on Wednesday without reaching a verdict, extending a trial that will decide the fate of the only US president in history to be charged with a crime.

www.abc.net.au

Jurors in the hush money trial of former US president Donald Trump finished their first day of closed-door deliberations on Wednesday without reaching a verdict, extending a trial that will decide the fate of the only US president in history to be charged with a crime.

The seven-man, five-woman panel, plus six alternates, are due to return to the New York courthouse at 9:30am local time (11.30pm AEST) on Thursday, but it is unclear when they might reach a verdict.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

The seven-man, five-woman panel, plus six alternates, are due to return to the New York courthouse at 9:30am local time (11.30pm AEST) on Thursday, but it is unclear when they might reach a verdict.

I think I might not get too much sleep til the verdict comes in.

 

[Izzylizzy]

ABC Australian coverage of the verdict part of the trial.

Trump's hush money trial jurors have finished their first day of deliberations without a verdict. What happens now?

Jurors in Mr Trump's hush money trial finished their first day of closed-door deliberations on Wednesday without reaching a verdict, extending a trial that will decide the fate of the only US president in history to be charged with a crime.

www.abc.net.au

Jurors in the hush money trial of former US president Donald Trump finished their first day of closed-door deliberations on Wednesday without reaching a verdict, extending a trial that will decide the fate of the only US president in history to be charged with a crime.

The seven-man, five-woman panel, plus six alternates, are due to return to the New York courthouse at 9:30am local time (11.30pm AEST) on Thursday, but it is unclear when they might reach a verdict.

Thanks for posting Australian news.
I'm now curious about the interest in the Trump trial in other countries.

 

[Niner]

Thursday, May 30th:
*Trial continues (Day 19)-VERDICT WATCH! (Day 2) (@ 9:30am ET) – NY - *Donald John Trump (76/now 77) was indicted (3/30/23), formally arrested, charged & arraigned (4/4/23) with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the 1st degree & conspiracy in connection with hush money payments to two women [Stephanie Clifford aka adult actor Stormy Daniels & former Playboy model Karen McDougal] before the 2016 presidential election. Plead not guilty. Warrant vacated, released on own recognizance. New York County
New York: Submitting false invoices or checks. All 34 counts against Trump are felony charges (class E) instead of misdemeanors.
Trial began on 4/15/24 with jury selection & ended on 4/19/24. 12 jurors & 6 alternates. [Jurors: 7 men & 5 women/6 Alternates: 5 women & 1 man].
Trial began on 4/22/24 & ended on 5/28/24 with closing arguments. [Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays & Fridays]. Prosecutors rested their case on 5/20/24. Defense began their case on 5/20/24 & ended on 5/21/24. Closing arguments to begin on 5/28/24.
Verdict Watch: Jury deliberations Day 1 (5/29/24) Started at 11:37am to 4:06pm. Total: 4 hours 29 minutes (includes 1 hour for lunch but deliberating).
New York Supreme Court Judge Juan Marchan presiding. Manhattan Attorney General Alvin Bragg. Prosecutors are Susan Hoffinger, Joshua Steinglass & Matthew Colangelo. Defense attorneys Todd Blanche, Emil Bove, Susan Necheles & Gedalia Stern.
Trump is required to attend each day in person — although the judge could grant permission for special absences. Trump has vowed to attend court during the day & travel to campaign events at night.
No trial on 6/3/24
Investigation & court info from 3/30/23 thru 4/12/24 & Jury Selection Days 1-4 (4/15-4/19/24) & Trial Day 1-17 (4/22-5/28/24) reference post #510 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...s-apr-2023-trial-25-mar-2024-3.711716/page-26
5/29/24 Wednesday, Trial Day 18: *Judge Juan Merchan read jury instructions.
*The 12 jurors began deliberating @ 11:37am ET.
*Once the jury goes into the jury room to deliberate, Trump and his legal team must remain inside the courthouse while the jury is here attempting to reach a verdict.
*Judge Merchan said proceedings will conclude at 4:30pm, but he left the door open for the rest of the week, noting that if proceedings are needed on Thursday & Friday, the timing will be determined by how deliberations are progressing.
*Judge Merchan said the court received a note from the jury at 2:56pm. There are four requests in the note. The jury has submitted a note that includes four requests related to testimony: David Pecker's testimony regarding the phone conversation with Trump while Pecker was in the investor meeting; Pecker's testimony regarding life rights for Karen McDougal; Pecker's testimony regarding the Trump Tower meeting & Michael Cohen's testimony regarding the Trump Tower meeting. The jurors submitted a second note to the judge at 3:51pm. They said they want to rehear his instructions, which Judge Merchan spent more than an hour giving this morning.
*When the jury reconvenes in the morning, witness testimony & jury instructions will be read again as it resumes deliberations. It is not yet clear whether the jury wants to hear the instructions in their entirety. Merchan also told jurors that they may stay late tomorrow to deliberate, though not past 6pm. Trial days have typically adjourned by 5pm, though some days have gone longer, and yesterday's ran till 8pm.
For more info see post #511 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...s-apr-2023-trial-25-mar-2024-3.711716/page-26
Trial continues on Thursday, 5/30/24 with jury deliberations @ 9:30am.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Trump lawyer slams 'liar' Cohen in New York hush-money trial

The former president's hush-money trial nears its end as the prosecution and defence make closing arguments.

www.bbc.com

Blanche reminded the jurors about Trump & Cohen's buddy Alen Weisselberg, yes?

Allen Howard Weisselberg (born August 15, 1947) is an American businessman who was convicted of tax evasion in connection with his role as former chief financial officer (CFO) of the Trump Organization. Weisselberg served as a co-trustee of a trust set up in 2017 by Donald Trump before Trump's inauguration as president of the United States. In 2022, Weisselberg pleaded guilty to 15 criminal charges including grand larceny, criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records.[1] In January 2023, he began serving a five-month jail sentence[2][3] and was released the following April.[4] A ruling which was handed down in February 2024 also resulted in Weisselberg being permanently banned from serving in financial control function of any New York corporation or business, and also banned him from serving as a director or officer for any New York corporation or business for three years.[5] In 2024, he pleaded guilty to perjury and was sentenced to another five months in prison.[6]

Allen Weisselberg - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Donald Trump's Hush-Money Trial Is a Referendum on Truth

Barbara McQuade explores how the rule of law will be tested as the jury begins to decide Trump’s criminal trial.

time.com

Concise recap:
"Some critics of the case argue that there is nothing illegal about paying hush money, and that charges would not have been filed at all if the defendant’s name were anything other than Donald Trump. Testimony during the trial has disclosed that other famous men entered agreements with AMI, the parent company of the National Enquirer, to kill stories alleging extra-marital affairs.

But that criticism misses the point. It is not the payment of hush money alone that is the crime. It is the cover-up by someone who is a candidate for president. Running for public office brings with it the responsibility of filing accurate campaign finance reports. The indictment charges that when Trump allegedly caused 34 checks, invoices, and ledger entries to be falsely characterized as legal expenses, he intended to conceal violations of state and federal campaign finance laws as well as tax laws. New York law makes it a crime to conspire to promote or prevent the election of a candidate by illegal means. Federal law prohibits corporate contributions, like the one made by AMI, and limits the amount of individual contributions to $2,700, far below the $130,000 allegedly made by Cohen. When Trump reimbursed Cohen, he allegedly falsely characterized the payments as income, resulting in the tax charge."

 

[GatorFL]

And the reason that critical testimony was not allowed is because NDAs cannot be charged as campaign expenses.

Please provide a source that corroborates this statement per Websleuths rules.

 

[GatorFL]

What's the connection between hanging chads after an election and a convicted felon running for president?

It's obvious: a campaign has a well defined ending point. Both the Bush v Gore case and this one have the same clock ticking. The SCOTUS has the power to put an end to this.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

He can’t keep track of his own lies. I guess that’s what happens when you’re a compulsive liar.

I guess the other thing that happens to compulsive liars is they get hired as Trump's fixer. JMO

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I guess the other thing that happens to compulsive liars is they get hired as Trump's fixer. JMO

Or accountant.