GUILTY NY - Ex-President Donald Trump, charged with 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records, Apr 2023, Trial 25 Mar 2024 #4

[Niner]

I assumed people would know I was talking about him since the thread is about him. Never a good idea to assume, I know.

jmo

The only reason I asked was - some have post that he was going to be 34 - now I realize they meant the criminal charges against him. Need more coffee!

 

[TootsieFootsie]

@Niner
I didn't get the 34 meaning until your post.
I thought it should be the old saying when someone asks your age and you say you're 21 again

 

[Niner]

@Niner
I didn't get the 34 meaning until your post.
I thought it should be the old saying when someone asks your age and you say you're 21 again

Well - at least I "think" that is what the meant.... LOL! 21 plus!

 

[CrimeDawg123]

The prosecution's slides used during closing arguments have been published, there's over 400 pages.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

And are discussed here.

What the Manhattan DA’s closing slides tell us about Trump’s guilt

The 400-plus slides highlight and connect trial testimony, texts, emails, phone call data and business records, painting a damning picture of Trump's crime.

www.msnbc.com

Collectively, the slides illustrate the breadth and depth of the DA’s evidence. From his own words, whether written or recorded, and his signature, on the one hand, to his pattern of phone calls right as other significant developments and communications unfolded, it was the weight and quality of the evidence that did Trump in with the 12 jurors. The slides also highlight how to the extent that others helped ensure Trump’s current fate, those others are not named Alvin Bragg or Matthew Colangelo. They are David Pecker and Hope Hicks, two of Trump’s closest allies once upon a time and people whose affection for him is still palpable, even through just a cold read of the trial transcript.

Wow, they certainly had the goods here. If anyone doesn't believe this is a justified conviction, DM me and let's go over these slides. Damn.

 

[legalmomma]

New York appeals court declines to hear Trump's challenge to gag order in hush money case

The gag order imposed on Trump by state Judge Juan Merchan is still in effect.

www.nbcnews.com

The New York Court of Appeals on Tuesday declined to hear former President Donald Trump's appeal of the gag order in the hush money case in which he was convicted last month.

The court said it was dismissing the appeal "upon the ground that no substantial constitutional question is directly involved."

That means the gag order imposed on Trump by state Judge Juan Merchan is still in effect.

 

[MamaSleuth5]

Trump campaign funneling millions to mystery company raises questions

The presumptive Republican nominee's campaign has given $3 million to a company that does not disclose its owners.

www.newsweek.com

Wasn't sure which thread to post this in, but I thought maybe this one since it involves campaign finance. MOO

 

[ilovewings]

Trump campaign funneling millions to mystery company raises questions

The presumptive Republican nominee's campaign has given $3 million to a company that does not disclose its owners.

www.newsweek.com

Wasn't sure which thread to post this in, but I thought maybe this one since it involves campaign finance. MOO

Hoping they continue to investigate and get more information. This is important.

 

[Lilibet]

Trump campaign funneling millions to mystery company raises questions

The presumptive Republican nominee's campaign has given $3 million to a company that does not disclose its owners.

www.newsweek.com

Wasn't sure which thread to post this in, but I thought maybe this one since it involves campaign finance. MOO

You chose well. This is a big deal and fits here perfectly. I’m sure some reporter will dig up the name of the mystery company owner. I’ve seen speculation elsewhere, but I will have to wait patiently for msm to catch up. I wonder if they’ve set up a “hush money” distributor ahead of time so they don’t have to scramble at the last minute like Cohen did in 2016.

JMO

 

[tlcya]

Trump campaign funneling millions to mystery company raises questions

The presumptive Republican nominee's campaign has given $3 million to a company that does not disclose its owners.

www.newsweek.com

Wasn't sure which thread to post this in, but I thought maybe this one since it involves campaign finance. MOO

makes me wonder if there is another adult film star out there claiming to have a story he needs to buy off. Since Cohen is out of business I wonder who the middle man would be this time if that were the case.

 

[sds71]

Justice Merchan has amended the gag order imposed in Donald Trump's Manhattan criminal case, allowing him to make comments about witnesses and jurors, but leaving in place the other restrictions

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/PostTrial-Termination-GagOrder.pdf

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805658465521606841

 

[Inthedetails]

Justice Merchan has amended the gag order imposed in Donald Trump's Manhattan criminal case, allowing him to make comments about witnesses and jurors, but leaving in place the other restrictions

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/PostTrial-Termination-GagOrder.pdf

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805658465521606841

Worrisome, imo. Fingers crossed this was a wise decision.

jmo

 

[musicaljoke]

makes me wonder if there is another adult film star out there claiming to have a story he needs to buy off. Since Cohen is out of business I wonder who the middle man would be this time if that were the case.

It's possible. There have been at least 25 women who have accused T of sexual assault.

Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Stunned]

Worrisome, imo. Fingers crossed this was a wise decision.

jmo

He does not know the jurors names? Or isn't supposed to, I hope?

 

[Chelly]

Justice Merchan has amended the gag order imposed in Donald Trump's Manhattan criminal case, allowing him to make comments about witnesses and jurors, but leaving in place the other restrictions

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/PostTrial-Termination-GagOrder.pdf

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805658465521606841

Really? So now it is OK for Trump to slander the witnesses and jurors? How safe are these people? Trump is capable of anything.

 

[Inthedetails]

Really? So now it is OK for Trump to slander the witness and jurors?

I'm less worried about slander itself (though that is, of course, deplorable), but that his supporters will take action based on whatever DT utters about witnesses or jurors or that the witnesses and jurors will feel like something could happen to them and adjust their testimony/deliberations to protect themselves and families.

I hope I worry needlessly.

jmo

Edited to add: I realize these witnesses and jurors have completed their role in this specific case. I worry about FUTURE witnesses and jurors will be targeted and/or feel targeted. Just wanted to clarify my comment. jmo

 

[ilovewings]

Worrisome, imo. Fingers crossed this was a wise decision.

jmo

I kinda dont get it--allowing him to make comments about
Witnesses and jurors!!!!

 

[Inthedetails]

I kinda dont get it--allowing him to make comments about
Witnesses and jurors!!!!

My hunch is that since the trial is now over, a gag order should not stand. He still is gagged for prosecutor and I think the judge and I'm guessing that gag will be lifted after sentencing.

IANAL, jmo

 

[Niner]

My hunch is that since the trial is now over, a gag order should not stand. He still is gagged for prosecutor and I think the judge and I'm guessing that gag will be lifted after sentencing.

IANAL, jmo

Yes the gag order will be lifted after sentencing - per Judge's order - post above {#630]

 

[Chelly]

Yes the gag order will be lifted after sentencing - per Judge's order - post above {#630]

Good, thanks. It feels better knowing he needs to keep his mouth shut until after sentencing. <modsnip: off topic>

 

[tlcya]

My hunch is that since the trial is now over, a gag order should not stand. He still is gagged for prosecutor and I think the judge and I'm guessing that gag will be lifted after sentencing.

IANAL, jmo

agree. you cannot permentantly gag someone I don't think. The gag was meant to prevent intimidation of jurors. that concern has now passed.