NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 #15

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Sorry about that , I normally just send a link and it plays ...I have it on my Overcast podcast player on my iphone ( which I can't link).It hasn't appeared on Apple yet , I'll give it a little while then try later...
 
I've been following this case for a while; to my mind there are two likely scenarios:

1 - after crashing, Maura knew the police would attend and also knew that there was alcohol in her car and that she'd been drinking, so she hid in the nearby woods, to avoid the police. But then people were looking for her so she moved further into the woods and ultimately perished due to hypothermia.

2 - Maura knew she wouldn't be able to drive her car after it crashed, so she accepted a lift from someone and came to harm at their hands.

Just my own opinions.
 
I've been following this case for a while; to my mind there are two likely scenarios:

1 - after crashing, Maura knew the police would attend and also knew that there was alcohol in her car and that she'd been drinking, so she hid in the nearby woods, to avoid the police. But then people were looking for her so she moved further into the woods and ultimately perished due to hypothermia.

2 - Maura knew she wouldn't be able to drive her car after it crashed, so she accepted a lift from someone and came to harm at their hands.

Just my own opinions.
I think those are reasonable scenarios- I am leaning towards she took a ride from a bad person and came to harm.
 
I think those are reasonable scenarios- I am leaning towards she took a ride from a bad person and came to harm.

It just remains so strange that they did not find a body...... There was extensive searching over these years.
That is why I also lean towards a bad person
But where oh where.
 
It just remains so strange that they did not find a body...... There was extensive searching over these years.
That is why I also lean towards a bad person
But where oh where.
It is very easy to miss stuff in forests especially mountain forests. Here in CO it would be painstakingly hard to search every inch, nook, and cranny of an area of forest especially in the mountains. There are crevices in the ground from fallen tree roots, drop offs, ravines from snow melt run off, etc. I assume it would be the same in NH. A body can be hidden in the forest for years and that's if you know where to look. Where does one begin to look for MM because who knows how far she got into the woods or where she went into them. JMO
 
It is very easy to miss stuff in forests especially mountain forests. Here in CO it would be painstakingly hard to search every inch, nook, and cranny of an area of forest especially in the mountains. There are crevices in the ground from fallen tree roots, drop offs, ravines from snow melt run off, etc. I assume it would be the same in NH. A body can be hidden in the forest for years and that's if you know where to look. Where does one begin to look for MM because who knows how far she got into the woods or where she went into them. JMO

I have thought about this over and over, trust me.
And there are massive differences in terrains across the country, and beyond.

The thing about the Upper New England states is that they are really small, and mostly rural. Locals, hunters, wardens, snowmobilers KNOW their own towns and exactly how they are terrained and bordered. Even on dirt hunting trails, the town lines are well marked in the woods.

Now after this spiel, your words remain true. So her body could be under any natural hiding space.... but as I stated, I am "leaning" towards bad person.. Not convinced!!!
 
I don't lean one way or the other anymore. Good reasons for both outcomes. Just throwing out a reason why she might not have been found in a forest. Not trying to convince or change minds.

Right. How can we? Its such an old case.... but not to the folks who live around there....
 
And since the MM threads started there has been the issue of at least one property owner in the vicinity not allowing access to searches.

And it's completely within their rights to do so unless there is evidence that Maura might be on their property or they had somethings to do with it. You know people have been a nuisance for those landowners ever since the disappearance happened. Likely trespassing and littering.
 
And it's completely within their rights to do so unless there is evidence that Maura might be on their property or they had somethings to do with it. You know people have been a nuisance for those landowners ever since the disappearance happened. Likely trespassing and littering.
Yes, obviously. I was stating it, not opining on anyone's rights.
 
I've been following this case for a while; to my mind there are two likely scenarios:

1 - after crashing, Maura knew the police would attend and also knew that there was alcohol in her car and that she'd been drinking, so she hid in the nearby woods, to avoid the police. But then people were looking for her so she moved further into the woods and ultimately perished due to hypothermia.

2 - Maura knew she wouldn't be able to drive her car after it crashed, so she accepted a lift from someone and came to harm at their hands.

Just my own opinions.
I've held every possible opinion. Currently, because they reported no footsteps in the snow heading into the woods near the scene, I favor the idea that she took off running quickly in the road when she realized that the bus driver was likely going to call the police, maybe ducking behind something when she saw headlights, which are visible a long way when it's dark and the leaves are off the trees -- even if there are woodsy curves in the road. Her footprints, at least the ones near the scene, would have been covered over by tire tracks and other footprints, or the road would have been cleared, by the time anyone was looking in earnest. Once she put some distance between her and the scene, anything is possible, but I think that there may have been some combination of hiding and then accepting a ride when she realized that she couldn't stay outside all night. I can't imagine the agony of her family and send a little wish into the universe frequently that she is found so that they will at least have answers.
 
I can conjour up nefarious reasons for that tailpipe rag. I can't remember if Maura's dad told her to do that in general or if there was actually a problem with the car at that time specifically...mOO
 
I can conjour up nefarious reasons for that tailpipe rag. I can't remember if Maura's dad told her to do that in general or if there was actually a problem with the car at that time specifically...mOO
I cant think of any reason for putting a rag in the tailpipe unless you're trying to stall a car or something along those lines. I've certainly never heard of putting a rag in the tailpipe to stop a car smoking, well certainly not here in the UK.
 

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