All good. I read your post as being specific to Cw not doing a good enough job on their accident reconstruction in relation to KR's Lexus. I agree with the above. Although in a broader context investigators did not do a good enough job period.imo. To me it's not even clear if the lawn was a crime scene as such or at least not the only crime scene. It's been noted many times on this thread the absence of search warrant for 34 Fairview. That fact always returns me to the dog scratch and bite wounds which were ignored from day 1. I can't think about the cw's unsuccessful attempt at vehicle accident reconstruction in isolation of those discordant arm wounds and the second major 'head in the sand' or, as Alan Jackson put it in closing argument, 'look the other way' behaviour of investigatigators and the DA; no bruising to speak of on JO's body that would be expected if he had impacted with an SUV and ended up being propelled to where he lay. This leads me to conclude that he could not have received head wound from impact with the lawn after an impact ocurring on the road. Even though I believe it's been proven already that the ground under lawn would not have been frozen at the time. Jmo
RBBM As in my response above. I do think this is where we disagree and that's fine. I don't think state evidence, if it includes JO's autopsy and ME, implies he was hit by car. Imo what the cw did was try to make their evidence imply it; by implicitly asking jury to join them in looking the other way re absence of injuries and discordant arm wounds. Moo
I think somebody already posted JO's body wasn't in vicinity or near hydrant so didn't recieve head wound that way. But yeah I think it would have been typical of the tunnel visioned investigation if the fire hydrant was never even tested for blood or dna etc. Though I'm not aware if this was the case or not. Someone else probably knows. I can't remember if this was raised through testimony or not. jmo
Another post of yours which resonates strongly. Yes what about Chloe. mooWe always seem to be going back to Chloe. It’s hard to look at the injuries to JOK’s arm without thinking of her.
I have revisited Nicole Albert’s testimony wherein she said the following:
Nicole Albert said the dog had been up in their bedroom but Brian Albert let her out to go to the bathroom soon after arriving home. The backyard was fenced in, she said.
After that, she said Brian Albert brought the dog back upstairs.
Karen Read trial: Owners of home where John O'Keefe was found testify
The Canton, Massachusetts, couple who owned the home at the center of the Karen Read murder trial took the stand Friday. Brian and Nicole Albert have been the subject of intense public speculation for months — while prosecutors say Read killed her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe...www.nbcboston.com
Chloe was known to be an aggressive dog who had attacked neighbors of the Alberts in the past and did not like strangers..
So, after reviewing Nicole’s testimony, that tells me BA let the dog out at just about the exact time JOK was walking up to the house.
Did JOK walk in the front door as BA was bringing Chloe down from upstairs?
Did Chloe come in from the back as JOK was coming in the front?
Was the side gate from the backyard open? The side gate that leads to the area where JOK was found?
Mention has been made of the basement with the bulkhead that leads to the backyard; the basement with the replaced floor, replaced bulkhead door, and the home gym that was down there. If BA brought Chloe down from the second floor to go out, would he then bring him down another set of stairs to the basement to let her out that way? I’m sure there was at least one door from the first floor that opened to the back yard. Was he afraid to bring Chloe through the house while everyone was there? Or did he bring JOK into the basement through the bulkhead from the backyard after JOK was attacked by Chloe to check his injuries?
JOK was reportedly inebriated. Did he fall and hit his head in the basement? Did Chloe jump him and he fell back hitting his head?
If JOK walked up the front steps, down the basement steps, and brought up the bulkhead steps, wouldn’t that count as the 3 flights of stairs that JOK’s health app reported?
We will never know because the bulkhead doors were replaced, the floor was removed, and Chloe has moved on to a new life in idyllic Vermont.
way too many 'derrière dials'. Very suss...It truly was an amazing feat, or coincidencein those early morning hours of Jan 29th, 2022 in Canton MA....by multiple people no less. All of those participants who were coincidentally present at 34 Fairview earlier that evening.
Come On !!!
I had at some point considered this possibility, specifically that Chloe could have attacked John in the yard when she was briefly let out, causing him to fall backwards at strike his head on the fire hydrant.
That's a thing that could have been presented with expert testimony and would have proven he was in a different environment prior to being placed outside..
Yep I was really surprised that it barely got a mention in defence.
I wonder whether they will change the next defence and in what ways?
If cw is stupid enough to bring this case to trial again, defense has a multitude of options and I'd bet this would be one of them. jmo. On the subject of second trial I was thinking if DA/PA says this is their intention at upcoming hearing, surely defense will bring another motion to dismiss? On what grounds would Judge Cannone deny?Moo
For one thing it must be moved out of state, methinks.
Oh yes, 100%! moo
I expected that too but according to testimony the ME basically shrugged her shoulders and ignored the arm wounds. Measured them, said something about them being not what one would expect from a "classic" pedestrian-vehicle impact. Imo. No curiosity shown about them at all. Certainly no swabs which defies common sense given she was told.they were apparently acquired via pedestrian impact with a moving vehicle. Either a sub par medical examiner or not as independent of investigators as she claimed. I think it's fair to wonder if someone told her not to swab them. jmo
I could be wrong but weren't there swabs taken from somewhere and they were found to possibly contain pig DNA? I remember briefly considering wild boar and then realising that many dog foods contain pork.
I mean, they did. The FBI have been involved for some time, which is why I was surprised that the previous trial wasn't put on hold pending the outcome of that.
I reckon the Feds will go after Morrissey mainly..
well that would be the best but will never happen.
Why not?
