PA - Assassination attempt, shooting injures former POTUS Donald Trump, leaves 1 spectator deceased two in critical condition, 13 July 2024 #2

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Friday Fan said:
I don't think he voted in the 2024 primary. It appears he last voted in Nov 2022.

There also has been no mention of him participating in any donations to anyone after Jan 2021. There is no mention of him engaging in any events, townhalls etc.

When he registered to vote, he indicated his party preference. But I don't read too much into it. Lots of people register by party. It's a snapshot in time of how they feel at the time they registered. I don't get the impression he was all that engaged in the civic process.

He may have had opinions, however I'm not seeing that he actively engaged in supporting anyone for president. No donations. No indication that he participated in a precinct convention. (In Texas, after you vote in a primary, you can participate in the precinct convention or county convention. PA might call them something different)


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I was saying he registered in 2022 before the gop 2024 candidate for prez was chosen. Something happened in the 2 years between the date he registered in the party and the date he tried to kill the party's national candidate.
We heard about high school friends, some of them wore trump hats. But we haven't heard from any jc friends that I know of. So attempting to find the "why" still includes this puzzle, for me. Rep party member tries to kill head of party. I'm not ready to write off that remarkable twist yet. But I get your pov.
 
whowy said:
Also wondering whether any keys were found on him ? Storage space, or 2nd vehicle waiting for get-away while LE busy attending to the wounded, etc?
Was the building's roof metal? How could his movement stop the roof not be heard by LE if they were positioned inside?

Seems to fit the profile of a serial killer - capable of keeping his dark fantasies and activities to himself.
OTOH: If someone was looking to groom/recruit an assassin - wouldn't an intelligent but lonely young man with firearms experience, technology skills, and no red flags be a perfect candidate?
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Exactly my train of thought at the moment, to be honest. MOO
 
NuttMegg said:
I was saying he registered in 2022 before the gop 2024 candidate for prez was chosen. Something happened in the 2 years between the date he registered in the party and the date he tried to kill the party's national candidate.
We heard about high school friends, some of them wore trump hats. But we haven't heard from any jc friends that I know of. So attempting to find the "why" still includes this puzzle, for me. Rep party member tries to kill head of party. I'm not ready to write off that remarkable twist yet. But I get your pov.
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But he also apparently donated money to a very progressive political cause. Very strange.
 
PrairieWind said:
But he also apparently donated money to a very progressive political cause. Very strange.
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I have seen some of those political money raising ads that can be very confusing, and if you don't read the fine print when submitting your $15 you can think you are helping one thing but actually supporting the opposite .
 
MassGuy said:
Serial killers show signs at a very young age; every single one I can think of at least. He'd be my last choice, as his shooting was so bad that he was kicked off his school rifle team. He took unimaginable risks, and lucked out that the local police had no clue what they were doing.
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Hmmm, Gacy, Bundy, BTK ? "Signs" may have existed from a young age - but were not recognized as such except in retrospect after their crimes were attributed to them. Also, seems TC's shooting skills improved during the several years following his rejection from the high school rifle team. His presumed target is lucky to be alive.
 
formerlyme said:
wondering if at 17 some pretty young lady may have asked him for the donation..... he may not have even read it.....
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Just reading here and there, it sounds like a persistent group that floods contacts with fundraising emails. In any case it's not at all on the same level (imo) as a bona fide party registration. But what means anything permanent at that age.
 
whowy said:
Hmmm, Gacy, Bundy, BTK ? "Signs" may have existed from a young age - but were not recognized as such except in retrospect after their crimes were attributed to them. Also, seems TC's shooting skills improved during the several years following his rejection from the high school rifle team. His presumed target is lucky to be alive.
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A serial killer expects to get away with it, while a mass murderer does not. I’ve felt from the beginning that he profiles as a mass murderer, who just happened to take assassin form.

We now know that his preparations likely began months before this rally was even announced.

I think he was planning something entirely different, until he found out 10 days before that Trump was going to be holding a rally about an hour away.

If this guy was a half decent shot, Trump’s head turn would be irrelevant.

There were multiple opportunities to stop this guy, and there were massive failures all around.
 
MassGuy said:
A serial killer expects to get away with it, while a mass murderer does not. I’ve felt from the beginning that he profiles as a mass murderer, who just happened to take assassin form.

We now know that his preparations likely began months before this rally was even announced.

I think he was planning something entirely different, until he found out 10 days before that Trump was going to be holding a rally about an hour away.

If this guy was a half decent shot, Trump’s head turn would be irrelevant.

There were multiple opportunities to stop this guy, and there were massive failures all around.
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100% agree.

jmo
 
MassGuy said:
I think he was just trying to get as close as possible, and looking at those buildings, I think that's exactly what he did.
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yep, close but outside of the "secured" area, I personally don't think he could possibly think he would get out alive (but he may have) I think he was just hoping for the most time possible to do the most damage.
 
MassGuy said:
A serial killer expects to get away with it, while a mass murderer does not. I’ve felt from the beginning that he profiles as a mass murderer, who just happened to take assassin form.

We now know that his preparations likely began months before this rally was even announced.

I think he was planning something entirely different, until he found out 10 days before that Trump was going to be holding a rally about an hour away.

If this guy was a half decent shot, Trump’s head turn would be irrelevant.

There were multiple opportunities to stop this guy, and there were massive failures all around.
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I keep wondering if it was really an assassination attempt. Rather, was the purpose to pepper the audience and the ear shot was just what happened when he was interrupted by the police officer looking over the edge. A mass shooting as opposed to a specific shooting.
 
Kaley Smith said:
The shooter was definitely raised in a gun culture, if not in his country and state, for sure in his home. More than 20 guns were registered to his father. I mean is this normal? I grew up on a farm in an isolated area in Canada and our home had one gun (in the basement with ammunition upstairs). It was a single shot .22 rifle my Dad used to shoot coyotes wanting to raid the henhouse.
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We have to look at his geographical area to understand whether this is common or an outlier behavior. There is also such thing as “collection”. Guns are collectibles, too.

What really concerns me is that his parents were obviously unaware of their son’s depression. If reports about bullying are true (in such situations, with diverging opinions, I would assume “in the middle” position), then in the father’s shoes, I would think of the danger such an arsenal would present to his own children. If the father gave own gun to his son in the morning and in a few hours, the shooting happened, what it means is that the whole family was totally oblivious to what their child was going through.
 
Ghostwheel said:
I keep wondering if it was really an assassination attempt. Rather, was the purpose to pepper the audience and the ear shot was just what happened when he was interrupted by the police officer looking over the edge. A mass shooting as opposed to a specific shooting.
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I don’t think you do something this risky unless your goal is to kill the former president.

If a mass casualty event is what you want, you pick a soft target.

I would like to know how much ammunition he had on him at the time, and I’m surprised we haven’t heard the answer yet.

I do think that officer rushed him though, which is perhaps why Trump is still alive.
 
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