Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #10

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Then Maddie was at her own home between "the week at grandma" and her Sunday birthday party?
I read the week at Grandma’s (p. 30) document to mean that Maddie had been at Grandma’s the week prior.

The neighbors claimed to see Maddie Saturday or Sunday (p.61) but some of their other testimony seems confused. Stephan also arrived Saturday or Sunday (p. 873).

Other docs in there say the party was Sunday, February 25 (p. 107) and started at 1500 (3:00 pm, p.32) and one attendee left at 1900 hours (7:00 PM - EST).

Jen says her sister dropped Maddie off after the party at 2030 hours or 8:30 PM (p.32).

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This makes me even more curious at to what was going on in that house. This person and her 15 yo son rented a room in the house. A 15 yo boy and a 12/13 yo girl would have been aware of each other for sure. IMO
You'd think at least a 15 yo boy would notice a young girl who is starting to mature.
This person always leaves by 7:45 am, didn't SS say they (he and Maddie) were up early and leaving the townhouse around that time? When Madeline and SS were seen leaving in the gate video she already appeared deceased according to the LE Document Dump.
Pg 29: Stephan and Maddie woke up at approximately 0700 to 0715 hours to get an "early start" so they could purchase food from McDonald’s before school. Maddie and he left the residence between 0730- 0745 hours and headed towards the McDonald’s
So when did SS kill her and why did no one hear it or see him carrying a dead body to the car? Again, this is a 1,450 sq ft. townhouse, not a large rambling home with lots of privacy.
My house is 1 level and the same size and there's NO WAY I'd miss someone carrying out a dead body. Even if I was in my bedroom, which is at the opposite end of the house from the front door, I'd think I'd hear things that were out of the ordinary. Also, if I took my square footage, divided it by two to imagine I'm in a 2 story house, it would feel much smaller than simply halving the SQ.

Then you'd also need to subtract out JS's master bedroom suite as that wouldn't really be considered part of the "living area" of the first floor. It's private space behind a closed door. I believe there is also the washer and dryer on the first floor making the remaining space for people to hang out is even smaller, either that or the latticed doors I've seen in pics are a panty. Not much "living" space left downstairs.

This is from a listing in the same building with more than likely the same layout (108 and Maddie lived in 107) with the same square footage that actually listed the size of the master bedroom and other rooms on the first floor. IMO they'd be the same basic layout. Source

Room Dimensions 1 (Kitchen): 10x8 (80 SF)
Room Dimensions 2 (MB in unit 108): 14x17 (238 SF)
Room Dimensions 3 (Living/dining room): 14x20 (280 SF)

What we're missing in the dimensions above are the master bath, which appears fairly large in unit 108, the stairwell, and whatever is behind the latticed doors.

So half the full size of the unit is 735 SF, Now subtract 240 for the MB. That leaves ~495 SQ on the first floor. Some of it taken up by the washer and dryer or panty, also by the landing to go upstairs, and also a largeish master bath, so a bit smaller than that.

Unit 102 shows where the Master bedroom is HERE. It's runs along the other side of the living/dining room.
I think SS killed Madeline earlier in the morning or later the night before and put her in the car before anyone was up and moving around.

Maybe SS and JS kept their vehicles in the garage and the roomies parked in the driveway? IDK
To the best of my knowledge there is only outside parking. I wasn't able to find a garage.
Something is nagging my mind about this. Wasn't JS's bedroom downstairs and the rest upstairs?
Correct.
A partitioned off area in this small townhouse with this many people living/staying there seems odd, especially considering it was in the living room area I believe?
Correct.
Did the renters not utilize the living room area or the kitchen at all?
I'm guessing they did. We've even seen someone in the living room (roommate?) sitting on the edge of the couch in that video showing when LE went to the house Monday evening for something (scent article?). We caught a glimpse before the screen went blank as the rest was redacted. So yes, they were all hanging out in the living room before LE knocked on the door.
 
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Thank you for posting that Jo in Calif…….^^^!

Wonder what the State of Florida and the Osceola County Sheriff’s Office (OCSO) are doing about their Executive Director Nirva Rodriguez that posted a ‘selfie’ image of the arrest of Stephan Sterns? And that posting by Rodriguez also contained a metaphorical or symbolic reference that might be inappropriate in some views?

Link to an earlier summary of this still unaddressed matter. MOO :

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Found Deceased - FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #10
 
“As for the photo, there was an apology issued, but it wasn’t actually the body. It was an area of interest where there was a body found. And, no one came out directly and said it was the victim,” Lopez said in the WDBO interview.
 
“As for the photo, there was an apology issued, but it wasn’t actually the body. It was an area of interest where there was a body found. And, no one came out directly and said it was the victim,” Lopez said in the WDBO interview.
I’ll have to look for a link, but I’m pretty sure it was confirmed that it was her body.
 
I’ll have to look for a link, but I’m pretty sure it was confirmed that it was her body.
I'm going with it being her body when the news was fresh, not after he's had time to think and come up with excuses. ALL MOO!!!!! Here it is as I had it handy. :)

UPDATED: March 4, 2024 at 3:52 p.m.

The photo was of a body wearing a green top and blue jeans lying beneath a mound of brush, and appeared to have been posted to López’s Instagram page on Saturday along with images of a community event for seniors hosted by the sheriff. The photo was posted a day after the corpse of 13-year-old Madeline Soto
was found in rural St. Cloud by Osceola County Sheriff’s Office search teams.

More info here: Osceola sheriff apologizes after posting photo of dead body on Instagram
 
I’ll have to look for a link, but I’m pretty sure it was confirmed that it was her body.

The State has misinterpreted a quote from the Sheriff explaining what the photograph depicted. The photograph showed clothing, but identifying features of a body were not visible. The Sheriff’s statement was not a lie, nor was it untruthful."


So, the rebuttal was that he meant that the photo didn’t show identifying features of her body, not that it wasn’t Madeline Soto. Sounds like trying to cover his butt to me, but annnnyways.
 
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When this story first came out in March, I looked at the Sheriff's Insta and found that long before MS disappeared (and since recovered), he's long supported the Seniors and posts about their events weekly. I believe uploading the photo was an honest mistake.

However, MSM reports do identify the named critics still speaking out about this matter as Lopez's political opponents. Seeing that the Sheriff is up for re-election, and the primary election scheduled for August 20, 2024 -- it follows why this is making the news cycle again.

And I personally find it all in bad form to use this murdered child for political favor. JMO
 
The State has misinterpreted a quote from the Sheriff explaining what the photograph depicted. The photograph showed clothing, but identifying features of a body were not visible. The Sheriff’s statement was not a lie, nor was it untruthful."


So, the rebuttal was that he meant that the photo didn’t show identifying features of her body, not that it wasn’t Madeline Soto. Sounds like trying to cover his butt to me, but annnnyways.

I didn’t post a picture of a little girl’s dead body, I posted a picture of clothes that contained a little girl’s body.

Excuse the glibness but it is only to reflect the ridiculous claim. Is that what they’re saying he meant? That’s what they’re saying wasn’t untruthful? That is a shamefully bad faith interpretation and makes me seriously question the credibility of the Sheriff’s Office.

Even if the photo was of, say, a jacket that was near the body, doing a “Well actually” is completely uncalled for, because there is no reasonable excuse for any crime scene photo to have gotten posted to Instagram in the first place. If “protocol” is for crime scene photos to be sent to the same place where photos are stored for social media use, protocol is wrong.
 
I didn’t post a picture of a little girl’s dead body, I posted a picture of clothes that contained a little girl’s body.

Excuse the glibness but it is only to reflect the ridiculous claim. Is that what they’re saying he meant? That’s what they’re saying wasn’t untruthful? That is a shamefully bad faith interpretation and makes me seriously question the credibility of the Sheriff’s Office.

Even if the photo was of, say, a jacket that was near the body, doing a “Well actually” is completely uncalled for, because there is no reasonable excuse for any crime scene photo to have gotten posted to Instagram in the first place. If “protocol” is for crime scene photos to be sent to the same place where photos are stored for social media use, protocol is wrong.
Also, is it common for police officers to have these images just on their personal camera roll? Genuine question!
 
What about the chain of custody? Could photos even be used in evidence that were outside of PD control on personal devices?
Certainly. Otherwise video from any Ring or Security camera in private ownership would be inadmissible.
Although, the private party would have to testify to the context and potentially verify the accuracy and temporality of an image for it to be entered into evidence. IANAL and JMO
 
This child was victimized over and over and over again, failed by the people who brought her into this world and should have protected her from its evils. The fact that she was violated again after her death by another person sworn to protect her makes me burn with rage. It matters not how proficient he was at his job before sharing a photo of a murdered child on social media. Nor does it matter if this egregious, unimaginable error was unintentional. The sheriff must resign or be fired. If that isn't a career-ending malfeasance, I don't know what is.

(And for the record yes, I believe Maddie was failed by both people who brought her into the world and yes I realize SS isn't her father.)
 
Can anyone tell what the deputy in the vehicle is saying on the bodycam footage here?


The deputy whose body cam it is appears to ask "when did she call" and "why is this not a code 3" and the deputy in the vehicle responds....I have a guess but I'm curious if anyone else can tell what he says without me biasing their ears.

Bodycam Deputy: --first showed up. So, they, they called since...I don't even know when, but, whenever they--what does it say they, when'd she call? My question is not, why is this not a Code-3? ...when they first...came out.
Vehicle Deputy: She called at 16:39 [unintelligible, single syllable] and I don't know why it wasn't a Code-3 either.
 
Can anyone tell what the deputy in the vehicle is saying on the bodycam footage here?


The deputy whose body cam it is appears to ask "when did she call" and "why is this not a code 3" and the deputy in the vehicle responds....I have a guess but I'm curious if anyone else can tell what he says without me biasing their ears.

Bodycam Deputy: --first showed up. So, they, they called since...I don't even know when, but, whenever they--what does it say they, when'd she call? My question is not, why is this not a Code-3? ...when they first...came out.
Vehicle Deputy: She called at 16:39 [unintelligible, single syllable] and I don't know why it wasn't a Code-3 either.
CODE 3

I’m not understanding the conversation between LE. Maybe you want to translate and elaborate?
 

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CODE 3

I’m not understanding the conversation between LE. Maybe you want to translate and elaborate?
I’m not the OP but I pointed out this very interesting conversation in a previous thread.

The one deputy is asking the other deputy what time the mother called in to report her daughter missing. I am only assuming here — but it seems that her call wasn’t coded as an emergency by the dispatcher and that’s why there was a delayed response by LE. IOW, the deputy is questioning why the mom’s call wasn’t coded as an emergency when it first came in.

ETA: I was never able to discern the second deputy’s response to his question.
 
To me hours after a child goes missing (in the morning in this case) doesn't warrant lights and sirens. Sure, they need to be found fast in finding the missing child, but lights and sirens? Nope. Google wasn't much help in the matter (searched several different ways) so I was wondering what others think about lights and sirens for a missing child hours after the fact. Now, if they were seen being taken by a stranger, maybe then, but I'm even questioning that.

I also tried to find out if Code 3 might mean something else in regards to a missing child, or in Osceola County, but came up blank. I didn't have a whole lot of time to go down that rabbit hole so would love to hear what other's think about a Code 3 in this instance.
 
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