Sorry, right the Snake River.Just for the sake of accuracy, it's the Snake River.
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Sorry, right the Snake River.Just for the sake of accuracy, it's the Snake River.
Good point MM. Israel Keyes, the famous SK, had kill kits buried in many places across the USThis is what I've thought all along. Lots of missing time there. But I thought he'd have had a hole dug in a remote area much earlier. In fact, I've read articles where people will dig a hole and put a piece of PVC pipe (with the end cover) in the ground to bury stuff, cover the open end of pipe with the end piece of PVC, and cover with dirt. When they want the item again they can easily dig it back up. I thought he could have done this with the knife and any tokens of the crime he took. Of course, one big hole could be done, too. I wonder of LE looked for areas freshly dug with/without metal detectors. MOO.
My understanding from SR testimony is that he needs the P to turn over all the data so he can do a complete analysis. What he has seen so far shows that BK did not travel to Moscow. But he is missing important data he needs from LE to complete his work.
I see what you mean about why not just submit what he has already - like a draft report. We really do not know what they have submitted. In Court, it was stipulated that all exhibits would be under seal. Perhaps there was something submitted prior to or at the time of SR's testimony?
The Judge's redacted order from the Motion to Compel hearings was not posted on the Case page, so we don't know what he ordered regarding the report and data.
JMO
Prosecutors are going to question the credibility of Sy Ray and that of the software (specifically the algorithm) he relies on. Which multiple court rooms have deemed to be so flawed that they won't even allow it as evidence.That is my understanding as well. From what SR has seen/been given is in favor of BK never being in Moscow that night. But there is missing data he admits that if he is shown it could change his opinion. AT has been asking for months for the missing data and LE and the FBI for some reason cannot provide it.
MOO. 2cents
Multiple courtrooms? Links please. I'd like to review those entire cases.Prosecutors are going to question the credibility of Sy Ray and that of the software (specifically the algorithm) he relies on. Which multiple court rooms have deemed to be so flawed that they won't even allow it as evidence.
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Colorado judge finds "sea of unreliability" in cellphone mapping data used by police
Police and prosecutors in Colorado and throughout the nation are relying on a company’s cellphone location mapping data to help them convict criminal defendants, but a Larimer County judge’s recentgazette.com
IMO it's going to come down to FBI algorithms vs Sy Ray's TRAX (mentioned in the article) algorithms. And FBI expert testimony vs Sy Ray expert testimony. Which one is going to be more compelling and fit or contradict
other pieces of evidence (video, dna, etc)?
And for AT, she wants us & the court to believe that Sy Ray has possession of exculpatory data provided by law enforcement. But at the same time that law enforcement is mysteriously holding back on.....more exculpatory data? And Sy seems to be implying that he's so confident that only missing data could change his opinion. Am I the only one confused by this logic?
MOO
It's probably data LE never collected. Home ring camera video and business CCTV which had already been recorded over. In truth, I think LE's program has different input requirements than SR's invention. How is LE responsible for providing data their own analysis didn't need in support of one they don't use?That is my understanding as well. From what SR has seen/been given is in favor of BK never being in Moscow that night. But there is missing data he admits that if he is shown it could change his opinion. AT has been asking for months for the missing data and LE and the FBI for some reason cannot provide it.
MOO. 2cents
For those of you interested in an accessible (and professional) account of how some people become as antisocial as the killer in this case, I recommend "Sociopath" by Patric Gagne. The inability to feel anything at all (and the emptiness and lack of conscience that causes) is well-documented elsewhere, but this book (by someone with the condition) is evocative.
Reminded me of BK's TapATalk messages.
Interestingly, a constant pattern of minor infractions can ease up the tension for the antisocial person - but some of them, eventually, crack and do heinous things. In order to feel something. Their limbic system is not functioning (or not functioning normally).
Who told Steve G that Bryan Kohberger was writing papers for all the prisoners? I heard that Bryan K hasn't been to law school and doesn't have a law license in Idaho either."BK writes papers for all the prisoners."
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Who told Steve G that Bryan Kohberger was writing papers for all the prisoners? I heard that Bryan K hasn't been to law school and doesn't have a law license in Idaho either.
Who told Steve G that Bryan Kohberger was writing papers for all the prisoners? I heard that Bryan K hasn't been to law school and doesn't have a law license in Idaho either.
State knocks it out of the ballpark.
@Nila Aella Thx for linking St's Objxn.
Who told Steve G that Bryan Kohberger was writing papers for all the prisoners? I heard that Bryan K hasn't been to law school and doesn't have a law license in Idaho either.
My sincere apologies to y'all for the misquote.This is not what Steve said and Bryan is not allowed contact with any of the other inmates in his jail.
Steve was talking about the BTK killer who gets to have some special privileges like writing papers for other prisoners because the BTK killer is in prison but not on death row. If Bryan is on DR in prison he will be locked up for 23 hours and won't have whatever privileges the BTK murderer has.
Steve wants the DP instread of LWOP because of this. Inmates are not put into general population when they are on death row.
Inmates write papers all the time for other inmates who do not write as well and there are law books they can access. Having a law degree is not necessary.
The only reason Bryan cannot help inmates with papers or whatever right now is because he is separated from the other inmates in his jail.
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Murder Sheet. The 'Bad Facts' episode that goes over the status of the overall case. If I remember correctly aside from the Colorado case his algorithm/software has been deemed unreliable in other cases/courtrooms. They didn't provide the goods but I'll do some research now and find the things that they are referring to.Multiple courtrooms? Links please. I'd like to review those entire cases.
S Ray is reviewing the evidence against BK. Whatever software LE used and submitted to the court. LE's work. Did they use TRAX mapping?
Not mysterious at all. The D asked, the P didn't provide. Tower list, advance timing records, missing drive testing. All things required to do a complete analysis of the work LE has done.
JMO